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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:43 am

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In post 6448, ofrhz wrote:
In post 6216, RadiantCowbells wrote:and yeah. ofrhz did nothing today, and their explanation of why they were scumreading us despite us being objectively conftown by role is that we were scumreading their slot.

so...
I think you’re a good townplayer, so I’m really stumped by why you think I’m scum. Anyway we have time in this game, so please reread all of my posts in context.
The answer is in the question!!!
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:57 am

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I think the game is officially lost now. RC RC’d his way out.

I’d bitch about it, but he’s so consistently good at it.
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:00 am

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He’s just toying with them now
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:05 am

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This is lame.

Just hammer.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:06 am

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I hope this game is a good show of why you should listen to me day 1 :lol:
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:07 am

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Doesn't really make me want to sign up games with RC that's for sure.

The two times I pushed him I was bombarded with insults. And here I thought I was bad :P
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:09 am

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though one time he did it as town and once as scum so like the guy's pretty hard to play with when he starts thinking you're scum because you vote him every single time and OMGUSes you hardcore :/
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:14 am

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I'm not so annoyed by him doing this though, I am starting to get an extensive idea of how he is as a person and how he plays scum.

He's not escaping against me in his next scum game ;)
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:23 am

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If he actually thinks he has a loss condition and he's carefully sealing it off, that's okay. If he's just toying with people, he's being a jerk.

I don't see what loss condition he could possibly have and it just seems like he's opening up some kind of weird cabin fever loss condition by not ending the game.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:24 am

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Oh Who finally mercyhammered
thank god
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:25 am

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I'm going to be rubbing that day one read in everyone's face because of how sad this is lolol
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:27 am

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This game had a fun novel but scumsided dayplay mechanic.
RC is reputed as one of the hardest players to read.
Does not seem like the number one told-you-so topic of all time.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:28 am

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I probably would have shot there again if Lavender was not a thing tbf
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:28 am

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I don't think he's hard to read personally. I have a way better idea of the difference between his town and scumgame now so that's good.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:31 am

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Lavender was never a thing and I'm mad you shot there.

RC got me to doubt it enough to calm down about the townread some but I still felt it was at least softly town-indicative claim, wanted to think on it more later. Would have been far far more town-indicate after PP flip.

If you scumread RC so much why did you agree with his thinking on Lavender setup spec over mine so much :(
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:33 am

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Well you should told-you-so people based on the listener's talents and skills, not the tolder's. Most people say he's a strong scum.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:34 am

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I was asked to shoot there and I didn't want to seem like an asshole :/
My problem is that given enough time as town I start to rethink a lot of things, but my first impression is often correct, which was that Who was scum, so yeah. It was less "RC is scum", just "Who is scum"
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:35 am

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tbf lavender's dayplay was pretty newbscummish even for town PR objectively speaking

but I think modwifom should have pushed her pretty far away from vig-range

especially with how informative flips could be for her particular roleclaim
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:37 am

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That's true.
I was put in an awkward spot for my vig shot I think. And it was pretty sad that I was blocked on my shot because the team had the roleblocker AND it was on Who's slot. That's some neverlucky stuff right there :P
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:42 am

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your wincon isn't to not be an asshole your wincon is your wincon.

I wonder a lot about first impression vs. second impression data especially with the newbie queue winrates shift across the deadline change, it could have been a factor.
I'd want a lot of data before I really decided either first or second impressions are better.

You remember it more when you lose for not doing your first impression.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:43 am

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i'm like 90% sure the roleblock is factional? I kinda figured that's why RC enjoyed making the definite existence of a roleblock a major topic because it wouldn't show up on rolecop.

I thought someone in the dead thread said it was factional but maybe my brain made that up
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:44 am

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yeah, I know. This is a hard game alright? When I stick on first impressions I am told I am deathtunneling etc so it's hard to remain steady with the shot.
It's whatever, I'm learning still!
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:44 am

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"mod notes: nod motes"
how come we have to have some mods that are not xyzzy
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:45 am

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the game of mafia is hard. I love it a lot. I can even get some joy out of my loses which is a sign of a good game. As long as the setup's not bastard.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:46 am

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if I ever say mafia is a bad game in one of my games you should probably vig me
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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