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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:08 pm

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It's possibly game-winning. He was gambling on it being decisive in endgame.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:16 pm

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In post 24, popsofctown wrote:I don't think cephrir's n5 rose is strong.
I agree it's a terrible pick. It was picked by one of my newbie RL friends I invited.

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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:20 pm

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dang, hito is really ripping into Pine there

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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:35 pm

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Yes please dont blame me for the N5 rose that I did not get to pick myself thank you

I did awful this game but LLD was not entirely wrong to kill me off as I was definitely going in suspecting her today. I did not care for her unshakeable confidence in my alignment. Still, I was really thrown off by Kagami trying to put cyanjet back on the table and I dont know whether I'd have gotten past it.

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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:37 pm

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Did they kill me in the hopes of getting a cyanjet lunch through ever, perhaps? That I'd at least take as a compliment
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:39 pm

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In post 27, FakeGod wrote:dang, hito is really ripping into Pine there

PINE YOU DUN GOOFED
Yeah that's deserved.

Forgot that Cephrir was a replacement.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:47 pm

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In post 29, Cephrir wrote:Did they kill me in the hopes of getting a cyanjet lunch through ever, perhaps? That I'd at least take as a compliment
I think they are going to bus LLD and play it by ear
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:26 pm

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After they bus LLD I think they have to shoot hito even if his reads are not OP right now just because he's been effort towntelling all game. Then it's implo/cyanjet/kagami/something_smart lylo. I'm not sure how much I trust my teammates to back up my cyanjet townread and kagami has to actively do work to improve Haschel's slot to got get mislynched over implosion.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:35 pm

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In post 783, Kagami wrote:ROSE is garbage. It is a much, much, much worse 1-shot bulletproof, which is already a mediocre role.
Rose is amazing for both alignments the fuck?
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:27 pm

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Kagami is discounting the alternate wincon for scum
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:21 pm

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In post 783, Kagami wrote:...and unless you are the god of scumhunters, you shouldn't expect to dodge a scum kill with this.
Congratulations, pops.

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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:53 pm

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I thought Kags would read Implo correctly but instead he's scumread obvtown Hito
Kags what happened?
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:11 pm

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From an objective point of view, Hito’s play up until day 3 was scummy. I don’t blame Kagami for being too close to the weeds to see Hito is now clearly playing town.

I’m glad I was right about my hunches with LLD, but I thought the other scum was S_S. I think I would have immediately gunned for LLD based off her claim. It’s been years since I played but she never struck me the type to not chose vigilante when the option presented itself. But maybe she’s changed her playstyle now. :Shrug:
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:45 am

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FakeGod, did the players get their alignments before they chose Gun or Rose?
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:07 am

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Players get their alignments before they choose Gun or Rose.

I think Kagami would have read hito more accurately if she started in the game from day 1, reading the game all at once probably increased confirmation bias on his scummier early play.

LLD needs to be BoP'd but it looks like she might get out of her lynch I guess all the legends are true.

I'm really mad at hito for not sheeping my AND cephrir's flip vindicated cyanjet read. A newbie is deliberately shooting all the people not willing to lynch the newbie seriously hito? Can we get a little Occam's razor in here hito
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:21 am

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I’m going to play devil’s advocate and say scum are playing Town like a fiddle
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:26 am

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IDK if that's a devil's advocate position.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:48 am

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Hm. So weird that so many people took Rose. And that mechanic fact definitely proves LLD scum.

I think LLD dies today. Kagami looks more town than LLD and this day definitely ends with one of their deaths. But yeah, can’t ever really bank on LLD dying lol. She’s slippery.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:16 am

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Taking gun is scary because of the alternate win condition for scum.

Gun is nice but if you shoot with the gun you're like 20% to hit scum but if the rose blocks a kill you're 100% that the rose saved town. If two people gun the same person one of the guns is wasted. I liked rose better for several reasons.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:17 am

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In post 43, popsofctown wrote:Taking gun is scary because of the alternate win condition for scum.

Gun is nice but if you shoot with the gun you're like 20% to hit scum but if the rose blocks a kill you're 100% that the rose saved town. If two people gun the same person one of the guns is wasted. I liked rose better for several reasons.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:08 am

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Wooo!
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:27 am

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i'm certainly the type of player who would pick rose.

probably not n5 tho.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:03 am

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Hmm. Maybe I think too highly of myself and that's why I would pick Gun. Or maybe not highly enough and that is why I would not pick Rose. :?: Despite how many games I have played I think I think I can count the number of times I have been nightkilled by Mafia on one hand.

Could multiple people pick the same night? If three people asked for Night 1 Gun would they have gotten it?
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:16 am

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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:32 am

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i get nightkilled pretty routinely and am also under no impression that i'd be especially good with a vig shot. i guess i'm one of those players whose main strength as town is looking town.

actually that's my main strength as scum, too. shit.
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