Open 798 | PYPX/Y+I/M | Mafia PT (over)

[Nancy Drew 39]

im gonna vote hoopla


hoopla should vote dave to make it 2:2

then if any1 votes dave we can switch

+1

but not right away though, right?

I obviously don’t mean you, I mean Hoopla switching to Davez.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dunno

hoopla should do whatever to make it feel natural that its a dave:hoopla 1v1 rather than a me:hoopla 1v1

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I voted Hoopla.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hoopla shouldve voted dave instead of us because NM was already on dave and she had an excuse because dave had voted hoopla.

if it had been between dave/hoopla we could've won here

now tomm she will be in a worse position because NM will become conf town or you give the town an extra elim.

i can self hammer if you prefer hoopla

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

imo you probly shoot NM after we get elimd and hope the town pushes dave out at 4P elo

i dont think the watcher shot will matter if the town doesnt trust dave

[Nancy Drew 39]

hoopla shouldve voted dave instead of us because NM was already on dave and she had an excuse because dave had voted hoopla.

if it had been between dave/hoopla we could've won here

now tomm she will be in a worse position because NM will become conf town or you give the town an extra elim.

i can self hammer if you prefer hoopla

Hoopa, if you switch to Davez before hammer, we could win this.

No we shouldn’t self-hammer. That makes us look bad.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Actually Pooky, I don’t think we can get more than 3 votes on Davez as NM is thr only one voting him but if two more players vote him or just one, then we could switch but not otherwise.

But don’t switch unless BB switches because I doubt Infinity will.

You could probably switch to Davez but I probably shouldn’t unless it’s hammer, then we could possibly win tonight.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I just want to say hard disagree on killing NM because he either neighbourizes you, which you can then deny or Infinity, which you can kill. Unless you think he neighbourizes BB, I say you kill Infinity.

[the worst]

alright sorry for the lateness: smoke and mirrors are dead, and can no longer post here. you're all alone Hoops - good luck.

I can tell you a joke if you'd like.

I'll keep this thread open, so please feel free to plot or explain any devious schemes for postgame reading.

[Hoopla]

wow, been so busy these last few days and don't anticipate much free time for the rest of the month. this game is reaching its climax at just the right time!

so, the decision now comes down to whether to no-kill tonight as planned, or to simply go for the win tomorrow in 4p ELo given N_M has dave as his top suspect.

if i no-kill, it allows N_M as a viable mis-elim target, but gives the town another mis-elim. so, i'd still need dave elim'ed in this pathway. the advantage with no-killing is it prevents dave from ever catching me with his watch and creating a 50/50 with me.

if i kill tonight, infinity is the logical choice, although it confirms N_M as town tomorrow (unless N_M neighbourises infinity), so i still need dave eliminated. this 4p endgame might be more desirable as N_M is essentially a confirmed vote on dave. it still requires BB to play ball, but i suspect he will. dave claiming a guilty on me tomorrow would maybe make the question more challenging for those two players, but a guilty claimed in ELo on D7 when he's the top suspect would look highly suspicious and i think i could spin it in my favour.

[Hoopla]

i think i've done enough distancing and bussing on SS and S&M over the last few days that it

shouldn't

really matter which way i go. the main complication for me is time constraints. if i had a lot of free time available in the next couple weeks i'd feel confident in being able to control the game should any ELo unexpected shenanigans happen. when you play with volatile/unpredictable types like N_M/dave, there is always that lingering risk of doing something random. but no, i need to trust that my bussing as an insurance policy was convincing enough to bank the win.

[Hoopla]

in an ideal world, i'd probably lean towards a slower endgame where i take two phases to elim N_M then dave (as this pathway prevents a guilty on me). but if i can only be fully present for the next week or so, an accelerated endgame where i can put in 100% might be a wiser decision than a slower endgame where i am absent in the second week.

[Hoopla]

if i kill, is it worth considering eliminating BB over infinity given how in my pocket infinity is? and from a dave-scum perspective, he went after me yesterday, so he'd probably try and go for me tomorrow over BB, so a BB kill looks a lot like dave-scum choosing to go all in on attacking me tomorrow.

[the worst]

just a reminder i'll need actions within (expired on 2020-12-14 12:30:00)

[Hoopla]

Oops sorry;)

Has been a long weekend. Hmm. Hmm.

kill BB

[Hoopla]

Oops sorry;)

Has been a long weekend. Hmm. Hmm.

kill BB

[Hoopla]

BAM!

[the worst]

JUST IN TIME!

[the worst]

grats Hoopla, grats team!

I'll be releasing this in 72 hours, or earlier with unanimous (4/4) approval

if you have any redactions in the meantime, please quote the post you wish to have redacted and bold the bits which need redacting. I'll delete any redaction posts underneath this post.