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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:50 pm

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Think about how we fucked up because of ABR's scum doc role, assuming there had to be a vig. He flips, town will get fucked up and start thinking the same thing, scum doc implies our roles are in the setup, right?
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:54 pm

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I can't claim full vig or they'll lynch me Because of 3 days with one kill at night. I claimed 2 shot and I killed umlaut
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:57 pm

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That's fine. You could claim roleblocked on later nights, theoretically, but no idea how credible it would be.

This is a hail mary play. It might just fail, but you didn't have much of a chance, so it's fine risking it.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 pm

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remember to back it up. say umlaut was your back pocket scumread and claimed to be townreading him so mafia wouldn't suspect you.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:01 pm

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And when you're "caught up", call ABR fake and push on him. A significant part of the town scumreads ABR today. We want to flip him with the goal of us looking good after he flips.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:13 pm

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Like, as a PURE LAST RESORT, if they run you up instead, claim you lied and have an additional shot but hid it so mafia wouldn't know and maybe you'd have a chance to kill one. It's desperate as hell, but remember: you have nothing to lose.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:47 am

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Yeah if I can get one more mislynch out of it before they kill me off then that leaves y'all in perpetual pulp with only one more mislynch to win
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:29 am

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We might be able to pull this off for one more day, maybe even two.

My story:
Scum targeted IV for NK
DGB blocked the kill
I am vig and killed umlaut
I will angle it today as "give me ome more day to prove myself and I will shoot ABR tonight," that way we lynch town today
Tomorrow when we kill off any townie I spin it as "DGB is scum role stopper and scum targeted umlaut for NK that night so we both killed umlaut at the same time. DGB knew i was going to shoot ABR so they killed someone else and role stopped me so I was the perfect mislynch d5 to win the game"

Does that make sense?

It's a stretch but it is worth trying
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:25 am

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I don't know if they'll be okay with a vig shot going into lylo but may as well try it

Also just realized i flat-out TMI slipped on DGB's role by talking about her as if she was a full rolestopper, fuck my life
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:26 am

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(which, to be clear, she is. but she hasn't claimed that.)
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:07 am

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I’m gonna lean into the ABR bus here
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:33 pm

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Sorry ABR. My poor play may have cost both of us our lives. Genuine apology. :/

Does this response sound too much like sealing the deal on associating ourselves to each other? Or would this be good?
I have always held ABR as a more prestigious name because I follow his scum hunting guide pretty religiously. If you look at Mini Normal Philosophers and Large Theme Trials you'll see I reference in both my town and scum games ABR's wiki article on how to hunt scum. This was my first game to ever actually play with him and I have felt really intimidated by him. But these hammers piling up one after another are too much to not be scum. One is understandable. Two was sketchy but I understood the reasoning behind them if he's town -- the "not delay the inevitable" argument seemed to make sense to me. But 3 times in a row is too killer for me to think anything but scum.

Also if you look at any of my scum games, literally all of them I bus the shit out of my teammates.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:45 pm

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It's a little...awkward considering how you've been somewhat hesitant on him throughout the day. Make it sound like you've been struggling with indecision and have come to the conclusion of him being scum.


And cut the line about bussing. No need to include it, period.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:46 pm

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Idk if this is winnable but hopefully we can at least get NoPower eliminated?
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:41 am

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Its fine. Good luck guys
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:50 am

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Best chance of success is to get down to 4 players, stop killing from there.

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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:51 am

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Take the draw if town wont lynch to get to 3p and stay at 4p
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:16 pm

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@mod: are mafia allowed to target their own teammates with the factional night kill?


I don't really like the idea, but as they are talking of a potential no elimination...I fully believe if we could kill him it might help our chances of winning at this point.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:00 pm

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In post 492, Insanoflex wrote:
@mod: are mafia allowed to target their own teammates with the factional night kill?


I don't really like the idea, but as they are talking of a potential no elimination...I fully believe if we could kill him it might help our chances of winning at this point.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:37 pm

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I think its worth trying to shoot the claimed BP tracker / backup to see if hes lying. It just seems a bit OP to me to have bp tracker + universal backup.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:10 pm

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Yeah, plus you can do that while claiming you protected him
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:04 pm

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What do I do now I’m practically outed scum
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:01 am

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I think we absolutely keep noraa alive no matter what to have her generate noise
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:45 am

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we need to get dgb limmed tomorrow if glitch goes through today
I don't want unwnd getting too many clears and dgb is an instrument in that potentially
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:31 pm

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I might have an angle to push IV with, but it’s a weird one
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