Xenoblade 2 - Beneath the Cloud Sea (Dead/Spectator Hangout)

[Syryana]

Oh, did you play this game, Syryana?

[Tammy]

If NC 39 had been even slightly townie he would have pushed for a justice!elim on Nachomuffin tomorrow I suspect. Despite the level of demonizing of him going on in this thread, he wouldn't have run up a replacement without giving them a chance barring a mechanical guilty.

Nobody is demonizing him lol

[penguin_alien]

Mmkay

[borkjerfkin]

VOTE: Spiffeh

Wish I was able to play from the beginning

i do too man

[Flavor Leaf]

Beeboy was caught last night anyways

[SirCakez]

What an absolutely pointless replacement
Kudos to titus I guess

[Noraa]

Why does town have so many cops?

[borkjerfkin]

I mean l4pe is just a private topic parity cop (odd/even # of pts) which, if outed early, scum could easily generate false negatives on by self pairing and claiming they didn't pair.

The mythra/pyra fakeclaim also had a plausible explanation for a guilty too.

I had a heavily gated Novice 1-shot legitimate amnesiac cop as a Blade Ability as well.

Flavor wasn't anything investigative.

Also scum had a ton of power too, essentially all of which they failed to take any kind of advantage of.

[Flavor Leaf]

Only had like 1 and a half, not even full cops.

[SirCakez]

This game wasn't about night play at all scum got wiped by solely day play
Maybe without a guilty we would have lasted a few more days but this was gonna be a town win regardless

[SirCakez]

I mean shit like using someone else's fakeclaim? Cmon

[Spiffeh]

i don't think you did a bad job at all,

but overall i think the trend in a lot of these larges is scum try blend in and cede all control of the game to town

Yeah this was absolutely the problem this game

I get that the game moved REALLY fast early on but town were able to find themselves super easily and scum were just left to be picked off and PoE'd by the end of Day 1 for their horrible positions surrounding the Cakez wagon lmao

[SirCakez]

Hi spiff you did admirably for such a crap position

[SirCakez]

Yeah everyone should have hardbussed me instead of the half assing that came about

[Tammy]

Hi spiffeh you’d been in from the start

And been town!

[Spiffeh]

FL didn't guilty you at all, correct. FL is just a neighborhood crasher (can crash others' links) that has a 1-shot commute on a member of the hood, which he has already used.

someone else, on the other hand, had a result on you (although not a 100% incriminating one in all cases), and those two (cabd/fl) noticed it and kept the ruse going

I didn't start reading Day 2 until Night 2 was already over and took MWNN's word for it that FL was the one that guiltied noraa

Cabd and FL did a good job obfuscating the nature of the guilty so I may not have picked up on it anyway but that kinda sucks lmao

[Flavor Leaf]

This game wasn't about night play at all scum got wiped by solely day play
Maybe without a guilty we would have lasted a few more days but this was gonna be a town win regardless

To be fair, when I said night, I specifically meant our written work during the night play. We had over 13 pages of PT work both nights.

[Spiffeh]

I wanted to kill both Cabd and FL N2 but I think MWNN said he could only kill unwnd cuz he was linked to him? If I'm being honest I didn't read most of my team's roles which is 100% on me, so I went along with him didn't verify myself

Was there a way we could have killed both if we used our night actions correctly?

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah everyone should have hardbussed me instead of the half assing that came about

This is the main reason I wanted the Guillo/Spiffeh wagon to get pushed. You were always the one expected to go through. I tried to do the same thing with LLD the night before.

[Spiffeh]

Oh sorry feel free to spoiler any of that stuff if you'd like bork

[borkjerfkin]

I think we're way past that lol

[Spiffeh]

I think the thing that upsets me most is that beeboy clearly read my PMs about getting replaced and checking in and chose to ignore them

like out of all the options my preferences would be

1) keep playing
2) tell me you're replacing out
...
578) make me eat a pound of black licorice
999) ignore PM and make me replace you 24 hours after the fact

Yeah that is obnoxious I was thinking about this before I went to bed last night LMAO

[SirCakez]

bork what would you say were the big scum night errors?

[penguin_alien]

I wanted to kill both Cabd and FL N2 but I think MWNN said he could only kill unwnd cuz he was linked to him? If I'm being honest I didn't read most of my team's roles which is 100% on me, so I went along with him didn't verify myself

Was there a way we could have killed both if we used our night actions correctly?

Not at that point, but your use of the one forced link power designating Cabd as Driver when he'd claimed Blade was dubious. I'm not sure why the lock-on to unwnd Night One; unwnd was a solid player who wasn't getting miselim'd, but he wasn't driving town play as much as Cabd.

If you were going to live at all shooting RB84 was an option, since it's in the pool and it would have eliminated a strong town Blade role too. You also could have linked up with your roleblocker and blocked Cabd to be safe while killing FL. No guilty, cop shot lost, kill Cabd Night Three. That play overall assumes you (Spiffeh) are going deep and leaves your teammates dangling a bit, but you had to try something.

You also could have left the kill on unwnd as the 'factional kill' and used the 'vig shot' on someone like LLD who you could plausibly be scum reading there and make a big stand about how you were a town vig who wasn't going to be leashed to a pool, you shot your scum read, and you stand by it, etc., etc.

[Spiffeh]

Spoiler:

Nancy and MWNN are going off on Spiffeh in the scum PT for how he did his readslist and like whyyyyy

Yeah this really fucking annoyed me like I promise I did not out the scum team with one post, I have been around the block a few times

Especially since they literally scum claimed right after