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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:20 am

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And that's it for generating hands for the rest of the week! I'll wait until Sunday to do any more, in case of appeals.

Any thoughts on which day we should post the double? I'll default to Friday but am not attached to it.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:45 am

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Not too hell-bent on any particular day myself.

I had an inkling that, after Minimalist Bot was eliminated, ND would be the next to go. Its flat-betting the minimum meant it was a risk-averse bot, so if a bot could maintain a decent profit (as Zen and more recently Siri have), ND was at a positional disadvantage. I don't feel like I should be surprised that ND went out in the middle of the pack.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:05 pm

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It makes sense from a "the house always wins" perspective - but yeah, against a large enough field, it's not a winning-the-tournament strategy.

One thing I've learned - bots need to account for the game state when calculating their bets. Like, "If I'm about to be eliminated, bet big," or something to that effect. Of course, if that strategy is generally known, it could have some interesting WIFOM-like effects ...
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:18 am

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Hand 21 is posted.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:31 am

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Hand 22 is posted. The stack amounts in the tables were messed up, but I caught it before I posted it.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:17 am

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Hand 23 is up. Will wait to update OP until after Hand 24, which I'll start working on right after breakfast.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:47 am

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Hand 24 is up.

Appeal timer expires in (expired on 2020-12-06 10:45:00).
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:24 pm

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I think there are enough cards left in the current shoe to last the rest of the tournament but I just grayed out the cards after the cut card.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:00 am

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Much obliged. :)

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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:08 pm

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Hand 25 - bets, initial draw.

Zen Count/Basic: TCount is at -5 and falling; bet $5,000.
Apple Siri: still betting the average, which is stuck at $5,000.

Initial draw:

Zen Count/Basic: 7S, 3S
Apple Siri: 5D, 4S

Dealer: KH, 7H
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:11 pm

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Hand 25 - the play.

Dealer blackjack check fails. Play goes on.

Zen/Count Basic has a 10 against a dealer 10. That's a HIT: 6C for 16. HIT: JH, 26, BUST.
Apple Siri has a 9 against a dealer 10. HIT: QH for 19. STAND.

Dealer reveals a 17 and STANDS. Apple Siri wins.

Results:
Zen Count/Basic loses $5,000; drops to $1,230,000.
Apple Siri gains $5,000; rises to $1,103,500.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:18 pm

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Hand 25 - cards before the play:

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Zen Count/BasicImageImage
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$5,000
$1,230,000
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$5,000
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:21 pm

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Hand 25 - cards after the play:

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Zen Count/BasicImageImageImageImage
26
OVER!
$5,000
$1,230,000
Apple SiriImageImageImage
19
$5,000
$1,093,500
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:22 pm

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Zen Count:

77
3
6
TTT
5
4

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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:24 pm

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Hand 26 - bets, initial draw:

Apple Siri: $5,000.
Zen Count/Basic: TCount is at -4.64. $5,000.

Initial draw:

Apple Siri: TC, 4D
Zen Count/Basic: 4H KH

Dealer: 7D KS
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:33 pm

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Hand 26 - play.

Apple Siri has a 14 against a dealer 7. HIT: KC, 24, BUST.
Zen Count/Basic also has a 14 against a dealer 7. HIT: 2S, 16. HIT: 6D, 22, BUST.

Dealer had a 17, so would have stood regardless, but with all players bust, the hand is done here.

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Apple Siri loses $5,000; drops to $1,098,000.
Zen Count/Basic loses $5,000; drops to $1,225,000.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:37 pm

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Hand 26 - cards before the play:

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Zen Count/BasicImageImage
14
$5,000
$1,225,000
Apple SiriImageImage
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$5,000
$1,098,000
DealerImageImage
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:42 pm

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Research indicates that it can vary if the hole card is shown on a dealer no-play; we'll go ahead and show it, unless you rule otherwise. :)

Hand 26 - cards after the play:

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImageImageImage
22
OVER!
$5,000
$1,225,000
Apple SiriImageImageImage
24
OVER!
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$1,098,000
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:44 pm

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Hand 26 - Zen Count:

44
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2
6
7

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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:48 pm

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Hand 27 - bets, initial draw:

Zen Count/Basic: TCount is at -4.84. $5,000.
Apple Siri: $5,000.

Initial draw:

Zen Count/Basic: 7S, QC
Apple Siri: 4D, QD

Dealer: 3S, 2S
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:50 pm

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Hand 27 - play:

Zen Count/Basic has a 17 vs. a dealer 3. STAND.
Apple Siri has a 14 against a dealer 3. That's also a STAND.

Dealer reveals a 5. HIT: 4S, 9. HIT: KD, 19, STAND. Everyone loses.

Results:

Zen Count/Basic loses $5,000, dropping to $1,220,000.
Apple Siri loses $5,000, dropping to $1,093,500.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:54 pm

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Hand 27 - cards before the play:

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
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$5,000
$1,220,000
Apple SiriImageImage
14
$5,000
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DealerImageImage
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:56 pm

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Hand 27 - cards after the play:

BotHandTotalBetStack
Zen Count/BasicImageImage
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$5,000
$1,220,000
Apple SiriImageImage
14
$5,000
$1,093,000
DealerImageImageImageImage
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:58 pm

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Hand 27 - Zen Count:

7
TTT
44
3
2

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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:59 pm

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Good stopping point for now. I'll do the last three hands sometime later. :)
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