Micro 988: Mafia Hideout

Gimli · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:18 am

I didn't mean to but we kept coming at each other lol. I tried ending the conversation on a whatever note. I'm just trying to make myself a presence and have narratives to talk about and push mostly, so when people talk to me I'm really making it last.

Datisi · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:22 am

mhm. i'm gonna respond to it, but it can also be a de-escalation.

I'm starting to feel like i have way too many townreads/townleans. maybe at some point i'll come in with a new scumread. if i'm feeling spicy.

Datisi · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:25 am

i'm debating if (if slime claims doctor or tracker) you should just hammer. would get rid of a PR, but... nah. we're in a good enough position. and i really don't feel like carrying solo again if i can help it.

Gimli · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:42 am

we really can't lose the roleblocker in this setting, or a scum in a 2-player scum team IMO. if slime claims PR I can find room to hammer anyway, but it has to be something of a thread consensus. if I see the opportunity to do it I'm gonna do it but I have to survive doing it

Gimli · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:43 am

I'm in the same boat with too many townreads. tris has added a lot to their team, I feel it's impossible to try and push her now.

Datisi · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:50 am

i thought about it, losing the roleblocker is actually not that bad, AS LONG AS the tracker/doctor are dead, or at least known (so i can kill them). both the rolecop and the vanilla cop get the same result om me as they do on VTs, so with both you and tracker/doc dying, this game turns into all-vanilla with an IC.

not that i'd want to throw you under the bus, but.

Gimli · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:01 am

I see. I'm the one who can get cop'ed. I get it. if you wanna roll with that plan, that's fine by me. I'm all about the team. it's a much harder burden on you than on me anyway.

Datisi · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:03 am

i just came out of a scumgame where my partner ate it early and i had to solocarry so i very much do NOT want to do that, (especially since we're both in a good spot right now,) i'm just rambling about possible mech plays.

Datisi · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:06 am

it's maybe not a bad plan on day 2 though, since the game woukd probably just go to 3p lylo, which is ~decent odds. but i'd rather not do it on day one.

Gimli · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:38 am

alright we'll keep that in mind. I'm not against doing it on day 2.

Datisi · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:12 am

i think horsewoman is gonna be gettin' some heat for that hammer.

*however*, personally, i have a strong desire to shitpush tris tomorrow. will figure out a bit better plan during the night but, that is what feelings are telling me right now.

Datisi · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:21 am

YEEEEEET

Datisi · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:22 am

In post 23, Datisi wrote:i have a strong urge to shitpush slime. knowing my luck, they're a PR, but whatever, better to out those early anyway.

t h o n k

Datisi · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:33 am

50/50 doc or tracker left as tpr.

if it's a doc, which one of us kills doesn't matter. if it's a tracker, they know they're the last tpr, meaning *any* kind of movement they scan is an instant guilty. meaning you're doing both the roleblock and the kill tonight.

i'm getting ~vibes~ that ythan might be a pr, but i don't actually have anything solid to back that up with. i think it's his non-committal posting style giving those vibes. i'll take a peek at his games sometime today to see if he always posts like that.

question is do we kill off or on wagon. first thought is that we kill either bugs or kyoko, but nothing definitive yet.

Gimli · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:56 am

great d1, very well done partner!

I'll be around tomorrow to help us decide on the kill. if you have a guess on ythan as PR that's as good as anyone really, he seems like a very good mafia player.

Gimli · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:15 am

I'm here but I didn't decide anything.

killing kyoko or bugs is fine with me as well. I think kyoko is extremely unlikely to ever get yeeted by town with the way she is playing the game. do you think we should roleblock someone we wouldn't necessarily want to kill n2? like tris, bugs or maybe even horsewoman.

Gimli · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:25 am

If I had to use any criteria in order to decide on the n1 kill, it'd be the people playing a good town game that are unlikely to be yeeted. I think ythan and kyoko fit the criteria nicely, and then I think tris has also played a strong game considering who she subbed in for. if there's anyone in this game you think is a really strong player, I'd favour killing them off already to avoid them solving the game later. I'd be down to follow your instincts on why ythan appears to be holding on to his cards.

As far as roleblocking anyone I'd go with people we probably don't want to kill on n2, unless you have a guess on someone playing PR-y. that'd be horsewoman or bugs for me.

Datisi · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:29 am

gimli kills kyoko
gimli roleblocks ythan

these are placeholders, but i want to have *something* submitted.

tuesdays are busy for me, i haven't looked at the game either. i want to kill kyoko because yeah, not getting yeeted, *plus* it kinda points away from us because she's got both of us firmly in the town pile. my only issue is that i think she's a likely doc target, if one exists. that's why i'm thinking of maybe even going bugs... hmm.

roleblock should be whoever is highest likelihood of being a PR. (or like, second highest if we're PR hunting with our kill.) ythan is a ~vibe~ i got, but from what i've seen of his posting on site i think it's just the way he speaks. i will look into it today before going to bed i swear.

not sure i get why you'd want to roleblock someone we don't want to kill on night 2?

i don't have much experience with this playerlist, other than bugs. kyoko strikes me as a dangerous player, other than that i don't know. and there's some sorta devil in me saying i *could* get tris yeeted tomorrow if i tried. i dunno. i'll look at the game again soon, still got some stuff to do today.

Gimli · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:38 am

kyoko is really dangerous, yes.

I thought of not roleblocking a n2 kill so we can POE the PR, but you're right that this doesn't really work and I didn't think it through.

Gimli · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:13 am

I'll let you decide

Gimli · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:13 am

I'm fine with these NAs as they are too

Datisi · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:19 am

my only issue is that kyoko is like, a very obvious doc target, but eh.

if bugs were anyone else i'd say they're probably not a PR because of the comment they made at one point ("we should elim datisi and then scum kills me n1 so we can play chess") but i think PR!bugs is very capable of making that comment.

knowing me i'll probably think about it more before just like, leaving them as-is probably

Datisi · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:26 am

so i took a 30-second skim though two of his games that i could find (he posts in like, every thread on this site i swear) and i'm thinking it's just his way of speaking. which means a ythan roleblock is basically a shot in the dark, combined with some ~*gut*~.

Gimli · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:40 am

if we want to kill kyoko, I wouldn't let this possibility of a doc get in the way of us doing that. if they doc our kill, props to them. but as I said I like the ythan kill as well if you wanna reduce that possibility.

Datisi · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:43 am

nah, that'd be gambling on (1) there being a doc in the first place (2) the doc being exactly ythan and (3) him protecting exactly kyoko. i don't think it's very likely.

also to be fair, *one* failed kill is not a disaster as the town does not get an extra yeet from that. as long as we don't miss twice...