Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[BuJaber]

lololololol

Dunk is tied for the lead wagon. Why in the world would I switch my vote to another scum read?

Could you explain why you are voting for dunk and not koki then?

I can't imagine anyone could scumread dunk without scumreading koki. So voting dunk doesn't make sense.

Or in other words.. tell me how you would read koki if dunk flips a) town and b) scum?

[Ranmaru]

Waddaaa...?? You asked me to show you I was Town. OF COURSE I wanted to be TR'd by YOU, and from this player list you're about the only one who can actually see town me in that post (well, maybe Titus will.. maybe not, but nobody else will).

Is this a feeling you always have with reference to Chara? (Since I know you don't care to appeal as town iirc) Who do you think is scum at the moment?

[Nero Cain]

I voted Dunk b/c his vote for Koki felt scummy and buddyish and I'm not totally sure I buy into his "whoops misread the OP!" I do kinda like his 230 but nothing else in his ISO jumps out at me as towny. Should it?

I still think Marshy is prob town. I mean obviously, his post about not electing a leader made me a little but I think it was most likely an attempt at a joke.

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: Creature

Let's get this. Not feeling the BuJab vote as much any more.

[Nero Cain]

lololololol

Dunk is tied for the lead wagon. Why in the world would I switch my vote to another scum read?

Could you explain why you are voting for dunk and not koki then?

I can't imagine anyone could scumread dunk without scumreading koki. So voting dunk doesn't make sense.

Or in other words.. tell me how you would read koki if dunk flips a) town and b) scum?

My thoughts=//=your thoughts. I still find your argument that Dunk and Koki have to be the same alignment a trash argument. What I can see a scum Dunk buddying a town.

So obviously if Dunk flipped scum then I'd think Koki is town (I already do) and if Dunk flipped town I wouldn't think it was AI for Koki.

[Kokichi Oma]

TOWN [Ranmaru > Chara > Joey > Marshy > Titus > Varsoon > Action Dan > Shaziro | Dunk > Almost50 > Kokichi > Gamma > Brass > Klazam > Buja > Joda > Pidgey > Assemble | Elbirn > Creature > Nero Cane] SCUM

This seems very specific for 10 pages in

[BuJaber]

Fine but you see from my pov both flips give me a definitive answer about dunk imo. That is why it's better.

But if you think scum dunk could be voting for town koki right off the bat like that then we fundamentally disagree on how we're reading the situation.

[Ranmaru]

Those are just town reads, then a bunch of nulls, and then three weak scum reads.

[Nero Cain]

As a follow up to Bujaber. If I were scum reading Koki, why would I join a smaller Koki wagon? Also, why are YOU on a smaller Koki wagon if you think both Koki and Dunk are scum?

[Ranmaru]

I voted Dunk b/c his vote for Koki felt scummy and buddyish and I'm not totally sure I buy into his "whoops misread the OP!" I do kinda like his 230 but nothing else in his ISO jumps out at me as towny. Should it?

I still think Marshy is prob town. I mean obviously, his post about not electing a leader made me a little but I think it was most likely an attempt at a joke.

That's all fair. I only find Dunk null, and could see the angle of 'he shouldn't be that open to delegating that early'.

[Ranmaru]

Unvote; Vote: Creature

[BuJaber]

That is explained in my reasoning for voting.

If dunk flips town it wouldn't give me any clue as to what koki is.

Only if dunk flips scum would I also think dunk is scum.

But koki flips town = dunk is town
Koki flips scum = dunk likely scum but could be town.

If I vote koki the option with the least info is the one where we lynch scum.
If I vote dunk the option with the least info is the one where we lynch town.

So koki gives me a better worse case scenario.

[BuJaber]

Only if dunk flips scum would I also think KOKI is scum.

EBWOP

[Nero Cain]

Koki's flip has 0 implications that make Dunk town. The fuck kinda logic is that?

[Nero Cain]

Only if dunk flips scum would I also think KOKI is scum.

EBWOP

So, you are basically wanting to flip someone that you aren't scumreading so you can get a read on another player?

[Ranmaru]

So far I assume Shaziro and I want Chara as World Host. Who else does?

Faux Elect: Chara

.

[BuJaber]

Only if dunk flips scum would I also think KOKI is scum.

EBWOP

So, you are basically wanting to flip someone that you aren't scumreading so you can get a read on another player?

When did I imply that?

I am scumreading koki. But I am still thinking of the consequences of me being wrong and what that would mean.

[Shaziro]

I could go for a Chara WCL.

[Shaziro]

Oh also VOTE: Creature

[brassherald]

I could go for a Chara WCL.

Chara has shown more effort than many, including myself, looking at ISOs, I'd be cool with Chara hosting.

Also, Chara asked me a question a while back, and my answer now is, I don't remember why I didn't like it.

Can I ask why the Creature votes, I looked through his iso and he's done nothing that warrants much attention either way, in my view.

For now, VOTE: BuJaber, I don't understand any of his reasoning. At all.

[Nero Cain]

Only if dunk flips scum would I also think KOKI is scum.

Am I reading this wrong?

The way its worded makes it sound like you don't really think Koki is scum unless Dunk flips scum.

[Joey_]

Dear Baju something,

Out Nation firmly believes that :

Koki's flip has 0 implications that make Dunk town.

The read and logic you have been promoting for a while concerning the Dunk and Koki Nation are, in our opinion, unfounded and should be dropped immediatly. There’s very little incencitive for Terrorists to ever interact in this way right off the gate. Dunk is also a clumsy Nation almost every UN Council, this behavior is totally better explaines by personnality (that the Nation forgot the delegate votes are permament) than Terrorist Indicative. Kokichi Nation are also one of the most obviously “Town” inclined Nation in the Council. Thus, even if the read itself had merits, the identity (dunk) and UN participation (Koki) tells an other story that is more valable/relevant.

About your concerns of the strcuture our Nation correspond, communication is our priority and like we previously explained to one of your UN Council collegue, if the situation present itself where vulgarisation is needed, we shall remove this emissary for a better suited one.

Kindly,
Prime Minister of ****

[Nero Cain]

Can I ask why the Creature votes, I looked through his iso and he's done nothing that warrants much attention either way, in my view.

Creature is known for doing jack all as scum.

[marshy]

HEAL: titus

[Titus]

@Ranmaru hosts can repeat. You must use heal tag to vote for host. Once you do, it is locked.