MAGIC THE GATHERING MAFIA SIGNUP THREAD (17/17)

Varsoon · Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:26 am

M

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ATHERING

SIGNUP THREAD

PLANESWALKERS (17/17):

Iconeum

OnTheMark

Shining Dreamers (Hydra: Yume & Mastina)

Chara

Hydra: Randomidget & Shiro

Maid Cafe (Hydra: Maki & Beeboy)

Creature

Bronya Zaychik (Hydra: Titus & Kiana Kaslana)

Almost50

Reasonably Rational (Hydra: Cerberus v666 & Drixx)

SnarkySnowman

Tibor and Lumia (Hydra: brassherald & Gamma Emerald)

Taly

Skybird

Micc

Venmar

Dunnstral

Varsoon · Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:27 am

When you sign up for this game, please send me three choices of colors (or two-color combinations) that will make up your color identity.
If you have no idea what that means, please refer to the game thread and its special rules:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75360

I ask that all players familiarize themselves with the special rules and even my normal rules set.
The special rules are unique to this game and will be the driving force of the game, not knowing them will cost you the game.
The regular game rules may vary wildly from what the typical mafia game rules, though players in recent games of mine should be familiar with most of these differences.
Finally, do understand that this is a very complex U-Pick style game. After Signups are full, I will need to build the entire setup, which could take up to two weeks.
I don't anticipate having to take two entire weeks to build this, it may be done in a full afternoon of work, but please do understand that this setup will take time to create once signups fill.

Varsoon · Post Post #7 (isolation #2) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:43 am

Okay, now that you guys are here:
I play a swamp, tap for Dark Ritual, cast another Dark Ritual, that gives me five black floating.
I cast Demonic Consultation, searching for Armageddon. There is no Armageddon in my deck. As a result, I place my entire library into exile.
I cast Tormod's Crypt.
I cast Sinkhole, targeting my Swamp.
I cast One With Nothing.
I activate Tormod's Crypt and Exile my Graveyard.
With no permanents in play, no cards in hand, library, or graveyard, I pass turn.
YOUR MOVE.

...
inb4 Force of Will

Varsoon · Post Post #10 (isolation #3) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:45 am

In post 5, Cerberus v666 wrote:Conf yo, hydraing with Drixx as Reasonably Rational, we'll have our choices to you shortly. ^^

@Random: I hope your color choices include things that might make hoods so we can continue the tradition!

Reasonably Radical.

Varsoon · Post Post #12 (isolation #4) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:47 am

In post 9, Almost50 wrote:/concord
/conditional
/confused

I know it's con-something..

/confirm

Yeah, that's it

...Conflux!

Varsoon · Post Post #13 (isolation #5) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:47 am

In post 11, beeboy wrote:
In post 7, Varsoon wrote:Okay, now that you guys are here:
I play a swamp, tap for Dark Ritual, cast another Dark Ritual, that gives me five black floating.
I cast Demonic Consultation, searching for Armageddon. There is no Armageddon in my deck. As a result, I place my entire library into exile.
I cast Tormod's Crypt.
I cast Sinkhole, targeting my Swamp.
I cast One With Nothing.
I activate Tormod's Crypt and Exile my Graveyard.
With no permanents in play, no cards in hand, library, or graveyard, I pass turn.
YOUR MOVE.

...
inb4 Force of Will
I cast pact of negation

Crud.

Varsoon · Post Post #17 (isolation #6) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:52 am

Yess, yesss.
Soon enough I'll be able to just make a 'Varsoon Game Game' where every role is just based on the players who have played in 4+ of my theme games.

Varsoon · Post Post #25 (isolation #7) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:28 am

Oh, I know I'm gonna regret running this, for sure.

Don't forget to get those color identity choices in asap!

Varsoon · Post Post #31 (isolation #8) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:19 am

And with Dunnstral in, that fills our signups.

Varsoon · Post Post #32 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:21 am

I'm still waiting on OnTheMark and Creature to confirm their pre-ins.
They both have 48 hours from this post to do so, or their slots will be rendered open for anyone to join.

I still need color choices from Creature, Snarkysnowman, Venmar, and Reasonably Rational.

Varsoon · Post Post #51 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:06 pm

In post 35, Cerberus v666 wrote:Varsoon, what three colors do you think Drixx and I would pick, in order, as our hydra? I'm going to send you our color choices right now, but don't read that until after you answer this question! <3

Oh man, I have no idea.

White with another color, maybe White/Blue?
Blue/Red
Green/White?

Varsoon · Post Post #53 (isolation #11) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:14 pm

Yeah, that'd be cool with me, brass. I want people to get to play my games, after all. I decided on 17p for this over 21p just because 21p is a lot more to design and I've been trying to build smaller setups.

Apologies to those that couldn't make it for signups. I tried to do them at a decent time for everyone, since I know some people were like, "YOU STARTED PRE-INS AT 4 AM YOU MADMAN"
There's only so many slots, y'know. I'm totally cool with hydras, though.

Varsoon · Post Post #55 (isolation #12) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:35 pm

Firebringer, ironically, chooses and plays Green and hates Red.

Varsoon · Post Post #57 (isolation #13) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:42 pm

'cus, uh, you bring the fire.

Varsoon · Post Post #99 (isolation #14) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:27 am

In post 64, Venmar wrote:this is too many hydras

varsoon would be an A++ mod rather than A+ if he didnt allow hydras

It's only 5, my guy.
Thanking my stars they're all two-person hydras.
Guess I'll have to settle for A+,

@Brassherald:

You may claim your color choices in-thread or here, but don't forget that the colors that you end up with will be an integral part of your role.

Varsoon · Post Post #100 (isolation #15) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:28 am

Now that everyone has confirmed, I will start building the setup. Please be patient with me as I work to create this.

In the meantime, I will leave this thread open for general discussion, letting players get used to posting in-hydra, and for anyone who wants to /in to spectate or replace.

Varsoon · Post Post #104 (isolation #16) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:40 am

@Yume: That's because I published the wrong edit tab of the OP that I had open. Nice Catch!

@Cerb: I've got a lot of meatworld stuff to take care of today, but I'll be cranking out some work on this regardless.
A busy afternoon would maybe be like 10 hours straight on this?

Varsoon · Post Post #111 (isolation #17) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:34 pm

@Cerb: The running list is, not counting replace-outs (tried to condense alts, but might've missed some--also does not count the few open games I ran waaaay back):

Spoiler: Full List

So my top 10 (11 if you count Drixx/Cerb as separate) players are:
Cerberus v666 - 9 Games played, dedication!
Drixx - 8 Games played, slacker!!
Klingoncelt - 8 Games played, was signed up for FFT, but has since disappeared from the site entirely and never picked up the FFT role Pm--I hope everything's okay...
Titus - 7 Games played, often hydra'd with different hydras each time.
Wgeurts - 6 Games played, one of my favorite people on-site, really cool mod.
Elbirn - 5 Games played, my soul brother~
Shiro - 5 Games played, keeping it real.
Yume - 5 Games played between various alts
Xtoxm - 4 Games, still quite a feat.
Firebringer - 4 Games, though it sure does feel like more.
Skybird - 4 Games, and all the sweeter for it.

Now, I just made this list, so I might have botched it, or missed some data, or might not be accounting for a hydra or alt somewhere. I know for a fact some people don't want certain alts outted and I made the decision to kinda out all my FFT players, but lowkey no one has heard of that game or ever talks about it so it's fine, right? T_T

Varsoon · Post Post #112 (isolation #18) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:34 pm

In post 109, Alisae wrote:
Varsoon is the worst mod ever because he doesn't update his ops at the end of his games with the alive players flips

Hey, I do that! Sometimes~

Varsoon · Post Post #115 (isolation #19) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:37 pm

Ay, I only counted people who FINISHED games.

Varsoon · Post Post #116 (isolation #20) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:37 pm

<3 <3 <3
It's my secret masterpiece, too good of a game to exist.

Varsoon · Post Post #118 (isolation #21) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:41 pm

It always does make me happy.
I have you listed for FFT on there, hm. Maybe I got my FFT ones wrong. Could be that I never updated the names for replacements on the list I was taking from. :/

Varsoon · Post Post #119 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:41 pm

FFT was replacement hell.

Varsoon · Post Post #128 (isolation #23) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:25 am

I suppose I should make a progress meter for it, hm.
I'll throw one of those in the main game thread.

Varsoon · Post Post #130 (isolation #24) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:33 am

Basically.

Varsoon · Post Post #131 (isolation #25) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:33 am

I'll be cranking out some work on it today, hope I get it closer to FINISH.

Varsoon · Post Post #134 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:42 am

Looks like someone didn't read the general rules.
Sad, sad brassherald.

Varsoon · Post Post #135 (isolation #27) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:42 am

Also, in the event there are more than 8 days, I'm just going to either design new planes or re-use ones I've already used. Haven't figured it out yet.

Varsoon · Post Post #137 (isolation #28) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:53 am

Fairly certain rules state that there can't be a no-lynch or multiple lynches in one day.

Varsoon · Post Post #143 (isolation #29) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:06 am

In post 138, Gamma Emerald wrote:wait so if a no-lynch by deadline occurs what happens?

Read the rules.

Spoiler:

Varsoon · Post Post #146 (isolation #30) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:08 pm

DO THE MATH CERB
DO THE MATH

Varsoon · Post Post #151 (isolation #31) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:46 pm

I really shouldn't have decided every player gets 3 cards out the gate. @_@
I mean, it's the right move, mechanically, but it's so much work.

Varsoon · Post Post #153 (isolation #32) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:10 pm

It's okay, statistically, most of the playerbase is too late.
<3 for the /sub in
Replacements always happen.

Varsoon · Post Post #159 (isolation #33) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:34 am

Ok with me, I'm still building this monster.

Varsoon · Post Post #161 (isolation #34) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:41 am

Varsoon · Post Post #170 (isolation #35) » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:48 am

In post 164, Cerberus v666 wrote:Upon reflection Varsoon, it's pretty hilarious that you've made games with such absurd mechanics that you need to spell out the fact that multiple people can't be lynched in one day.

It's really important!!

Varsoon · Post Post #171 (isolation #36) » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:48 am

I love these role PMs that I'm making but, hoh boy, so much work.
Especially when Mafiascum decides that every other image link just isn't going to work.

Varsoon · Post Post #176 (isolation #37) » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:47 pm

If I was SMART and ran this as a 12 player game, the setup would be ready right now.

As another heads up, and I'll repeat this when the game begins, do not expect that all the Spell Cards in this game reflect their real-game counterparts.
I've mostly tried to render the Magic the Gathering mechanics as Mafia mechanics, but some spells may have different mana costs, type, or effect than what you expect.
In short, flavor knowledge will not help you solve this game unless players claim their spell card flavors and their spell card flavors happen to match the real card flavors.
Also, as a very important heads up, a large part of this game design will include players gaining advantage over others if they have knowledge of the setup flavor.
For that reason, claiming flavor may have an actual mechanical detriment to your win condition.
Finally, Flavor has no bearing on alignment.

TL;DR: Flavor can, to an extent, be gamed, but only IF CLAIMED.

Varsoon · Post Post #177 (isolation #38) » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:50 pm

I mostly determined the Mana costs from a balance perspective of a mafia game, what cards are present in the entire cardpool, and the unique means that each Planeswalker has of gaining mana.
So a spell in the actual card game that costs three mana might only cost two in this Mafia game because it's more balanced around that number.
The color identity of every spell is unchanged and Planeswalkers can only cast spells of their own color identity, so claiming what spells you cast WILL out your color identity.

Varsoon · Post Post #178 (isolation #39) » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:58 pm

Alright, so I took a few hours and just hammered out all the roles.
Game's ready.
Quality check and then
role PMs going out soon.

Varsoon · Post Post #179 (isolation #40) » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:05 pm

In post 160, Randomnamechange wrote:me and shiro are gonna be hydraing if thats alright

Gonna need a name for that hydra, pal.

Varsoon · Post Post #181 (isolation #41) » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:13 pm

Man, it took literally all day.

Varsoon · Post Post #183 (isolation #42) » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:07 pm

All role PMs are out.