Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

[northsidegal]

VC 1.02

votes

Cedrick

(1): Mumble

implosion

(2): Havo, Creature

katherine

(2): MariaR, implosion

MariaR

(3): katherine, brassherald, Ausuka

killthestory

(1): Cedrick

Mumble

(2): Killthestory, Tchill13

Tchill13

(2): Luca Blight, Gamma Emerald

Not Voting

(0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-03-22 19:42:59)

Mod Notes

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[Luca Blight]

Luca are you intentionally being obtuse
she was tring Havo and SRing katherine

Perhaps I'm just used to people communicating their ideas more coherently. My mistake.

[Luca Blight]

I see NSG graduated from the Beefster school of Modding.

I picked it up from dunkerdoodles, actually!
-nsg

[Ausuka]

Luca Blight can also join the townclub. If there's scum on Tchill it's Gamma.

pedit:

If we lynched Tchill and he flipped scum, I probably wouldn't townread KTS for it.

Them being scumbuddies could explain him continuing to hard-townread KTS even after KTS himself dismissed his point, but that's kinda meh. He'd stay null.

The Luca tr comes out of no where

Where is it supposed to come from? It's page 8. What he posted makes sense and appears to come from a town mindset.

"Oh look a towny who made a wall post that seems to have reasoning lets tr that"

...What I did was literally just townreading Luca. That's it. There's absolutely no reason why that means I'm scum here. Like maybe if you were scumreading me for not giving reasoning I could at least understand it. But what you're doing here just makes no sense at all.

The bolded is interesting cause the first thing that came to mind was "Partner with Tchill who knows he'll flip scum and is trying to not credit KTS"

... what. KTS isn't even voting Tchill. No, he doesn't get towncred because he pushed him for like a page at the start of a game.

I'm pretty happy voting this for now actually.
VOTE: MariaR

1)hey look you finally posted reasoning on your luca tr as you should've done in the first place! It's a start.
2)I can think you're scum for any reason I want I don't get how you think not making sense=scum
3) Also should've been stated in the first post
Well at least I got to squeeze something out of you

1) I mean what I posted was basically just "he's guttown." I mean if you want to be nitpicky and say you should announce that your reasoning is gut whenever you post a read without reasoning stated you can do that, but that's implied.
2) Town think real things with actual thoughts, scum try to fake that. This is like the most common way I get scumreads.
3) Why should I have said that? Gamma just asked me if my read would change, I told him it wouldn't really, which is true.

[MariaR]

1)Yes I am being nitpicky I see something I dislike I comment I nitpick it's up to you to see if you think I'm town or if you think I'm doing scum motivated actions *shrug*
2)You're basically trying to say my thoughts don't exist....no comment
3) Without the added reasoning it was just a shade post if you added that reasoning to back it up it would've been much more clear

[Ausuka]

2) Well yeah, I'm saying the thoughts that you express in this thread never happened. You're not exactly going to post what you actually thought when you're scum, are you? Of course you thought something, but what I'm saying is that I don't think the read/thought you posted is real and not fabricated.

3) It isn't shading to say that I don't townread someone.

[MariaR]

2) Eh blah blah self meta. Fair enough
3)It's shading/slimy to say someone shouldn't get credit without bringing up facts why they shouldn't. (And you didn't do that in the first post)

[Killthestory]

guys... i get you think tchill is scum, i saw that, too, but i think he's just an inexperienced townie. a lot of the stuff he says comes across as scummy, but i looked it over and realized the guy really doesn't know how to play mafia. pls don't lynch him.

also hi luca! didn't realize you were in this game. hi maria, too.

cedrick, luca, maria, creature, tchill, all v.
katherine, gamma slight v.
feeling implosion, mumble, ausoka as w.

rest i still gotta sort

[MariaR]

sup KTS long time since my first scum game friend

[Ausuka]

Nah, that's not how burden of proof works. If I don't think someone should get credit for something, just because there's no reason they should, I don't have to go prove that.

I do feel better about you after this exchange though.
UNVOTE:

[Killthestory]

sup KTS long time since my first scum game friend

cool.

[Gamma Emerald]

guys... i get you think tchill is scum, i saw that, too, but i think he's just an inexperienced townie. a lot of the stuff he says comes across as scummy, but i looked it over and realized the guy really doesn't know how to play mafia. pls don't lynch him.

also hi luca! didn't realize you were in this game. hi maria, too.

cedrick, luca, maria, creature, tchill, all v.
katherine, gamma slight v.
feeling implosion, mumble, ausoka as w.

rest i still gotta sort

Dude is not inexperienced. I've seen inexperienced townie him, I actually read him as town that time. This is very different and also quite a bit since then.

[Killthestory]

link me his towngame because the only way he isn't wolf is if he doesn't know what he's doing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Luca Blight can also join the townclub. If there's scum on Tchill it's Gamma.

pedit: If we lynched Tchill and he flipped scum, I probably wouldn't townread KTS for it. Them being scumbuddies could explain him continuing to hard-townread KTS even after KTS himself dismissed his point, but that's kinda meh. He'd stay null.

Excuse me? What about my vote looks like a bus?

Also this question still exists

[Ausuka]

Oh sorry about that, missed your question.
I didn't think of it as a bus, but rather as "if Tchill is town." At the time I thought your vote on Tchill kinda looked like you were dragging up as many points as you could on Tchill but reading your ISO again I don't really think that anymore.

[Tchill13]

guys... i get you think tchill is scum, i saw that, too, but i think he's just an inexperienced townie. a lot of the stuff he says comes across as scummy, but i looked it over and realized the guy really doesn't know how to play mafia. pls don't lynch him.

also hi luca! didn't realize you were in this game. hi maria, too.

cedrick, luca, maria, creature, tchill, all v.
katherine, gamma slight v.
feeling implosion, mumble, ausoka as w.

rest i still gotta sort

Very odd of you to defend/undermine me when I only have 2 votes on me. Are you that worried I'm gonna be lynched? Or do you NEED to get the point across that you believe I'm town and I'm terrible? Because if you want people to think I'm town because I'm terrible you don't want people listening to my reasoning. Why would you make sure that didn't happen?

[Tchill13]

And I'm not claiming I'm terrible or inexperienced. Killthestory is claiming that. I'm claiming I'm semi experienced and decent.

@gamma I change my play up quite a bit. Just because I don't play the same way every time doesn't mean I'm scum.

[Tchill13]

It's very obvious KTS wants to get the thought across that I'm not a good player and while I should be TR'd I probably shouldn't be listened to.

Thoughts on that?

[Gamma Emerald]

And I'm not claiming I'm terrible or inexperienced. Killthestory is claiming that. I'm claiming I'm semi experienced and decent.

@gamma I change my play up quite a bit. Just because I don't play the same way every time doesn't mean I'm scum.

Well your play isn't very good anyway, plus I was arguing that you weren't inexperienced, not that you have a solid meta trend.

[Gamma Emerald]

It's very obvious KTS wants to get the thought across that I'm not a good player and while I should be TR'd I probably shouldn't be listened to.

Thoughts on that?

Well if you're town I'm gonna be looking at him like this because that sounds like scum devaluing your opinion in that case.

[Ausuka]

guys... i get you think tchill is scum, i saw that, too, but i think he's just an inexperienced townie. a lot of the stuff he says comes across as scummy, but i looked it over and realized the guy really doesn't know how to play mafia. pls don't lynch him.

also hi luca! didn't realize you were in this game. hi maria, too.

cedrick, luca, maria, creature, tchill, all v.
katherine, gamma slight v.
feeling implosion, mumble, ausoka as w.

rest i still gotta sort

Very odd of you to defend/undermine me when I only have 2 votes on me. Are you that worried I'm gonna be lynched? Or do you NEED to get the point across that you believe I'm town and I'm terrible? Because if you want people to think I'm town because I'm terrible you don't want people listening to my reasoning. Why would you make sure that didn't happen?

Yeah Tchill is town for this. KTS is helping Tchill here and Tchill is provoking him in this post. I think if Tchill was scum he'd probably just take the TR, instead of being annoyed at KTS for a percieved insult.

[Tchill13]

And I'm not claiming I'm terrible or inexperienced. Killthestory is claiming that. I'm claiming I'm semi experienced and decent.

@gamma I change my play up quite a bit. Just because I don't play the same way every time doesn't mean I'm scum.

Well your play isn't very good anyway, plus I was arguing that you weren't inexperienced, not that you have a solid meta trend.

It's very obvious KTS wants to get the thought across that I'm not a good player and while I should be TR'd I probably shouldn't be listened to.

Thoughts on that?

Well if you're town I'm gonna be looking at him like this because that sounds like scum devaluing your opinion in that case.

well im definitely town and thanks lol.

[Tchill13]

Luca seems town enough from his case on me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm maybe so actually. Tchill why were you inconsistent with your treatment of mumble? You voted him and then said there was no reason to SR him. I understand you wanted to counterwagon but was there anything that made you want to vote them over say, Katherine or implosion?

[Tchill13]

Hello Hello Hello.

Before I RVS vote, let me introduce myself.

I’m a mediocre mafia player at best who really dislikes Day 1s.
I’ve been known to quick hammer peeps on Day 1 if it’s just a day or two
Into the game to get the game moving.

I’m generally quite active and polite. But I have been called terrible town, an idiot and a Liar.
As recently as my last game.

But I’m looking forward to a great game with this player list.

Can we not excuse d1 quickhammers

Just because you're terrible doesn't mean you get to bring everyone else down

oh gamma's taking multiple shots. i feel better now lol.

Exactly what does calling people terrible accomplish again? Why not just play with that in mind in stead of making sure everyone knows you think X is trash at the game? Are you the king of mafia? because we need to work as a team instead of degrading multiple people before we get into the actual game.