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Post Post #20 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:07 pm

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Die stolzen und illustren Menschen in Deutschland heißen Sie willkommen! Wir sind eine freundliche und friedliebende Nation, aber sei gewarnt, solltest du uns kreuzen, sei bereit, um Vergebung zu bitten, wenn wir dich unter der Macht unserer mächtigen Panzer vernichten!
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Post Post #22 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:29 pm

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vote: Dunk


cause why not

fine Var "buzzkill" soon
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Post Post #24 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:34 pm

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The great nation of Germany would like to form an alliance with Varsoon.
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Post Post #30 (isolation #3) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:25 am

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Germany denounces Varsoon.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #4) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:19 am

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In post 100, Shaziro wrote:Those who specifically want power probably shouldn't get it
TBF, I trust myself and I know that I'm town. I mean, I know I won't get it but in my mind, it is better to put it on the town I know and trust.
In post 105, BuJaber wrote:aybe koki's opener is NAI but when dunkerdoodle follows it up by voting koki for host it looks pretty suspicious to me
Shouldn't that say more about Dunk than koki?
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Post Post #135 (isolation #5) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:21 am

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In post 97, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 96, Titus wrote:Wait I thought someone else was wanting me to be host.

Why would you want me as a host Gamma?
Because I know you're strong as town leader from Real Folk Blues rematch
I would like to determine your alignment before casting a vote but I think it's a good idea to start
Don't forget your massive crush on her.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #6) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:00 am

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In post 160, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hmm... I suspect one of Nero/BuJaber is guilty of the wrong-way association tell.
huh? Who am I being associated with or are you just trying to associate me with Bujaber?
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Post Post #168 (isolation #7) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:05 am

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I'd be down for a Bu wagon. His argument that Koki is scummier than Dunk and that Koki's alignment will tell us about Dunk's alignment is just ridiculous.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:14 am

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TBF, I don't even like alot of the "vets".
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Post Post #173 (isolation #9) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:16 am

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Soon is aight'

I like Titus as a person but she can get really really bad at times.

Shaz is cool. I'd help him clear a barbarian encampment.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #10) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:21 am

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I remember liking Pidgey and I'm glad he's back

A50 is just a headache waiting to happen.

The rest of you can sux my big fat schwanz.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #11) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:22 am

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Why in the world would CNN not be true?!?
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Post Post #237 (isolation #12) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:15 pm

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In post 206, marshy wrote:what if we dont vote anyone for leader and instead nominate donald trump?
of course, you could say, and it very well is true, that this is a troll post but that's pretty dumb to not elect a leader.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #13) » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:18 pm

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In post 256, BuJaber wrote:Is there a reason why people are soft (and in some cases hard) claiming their civs? I sort of got the impression from OP it's best not to.
What makes you think that?
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Post Post #273 (isolation #14) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:21 am

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lololololol

Dunk is tied for the lead wagon. Why in the world would I switch my vote to another scum read?
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Post Post #277 (isolation #15) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:43 am

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I voted Dunk b/c his vote for Koki felt scummy and buddyish and I'm not totally sure I buy into his "whoops misread the OP!" I do kinda like his but nothing else in his ISO jumps out at me as towny. Should it?

I still think Marshy is prob town. I mean obviously, his post about not electing a leader made me :igmeou: a little but I think it was most likely an attempt at a joke.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #16) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:48 am

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In post 275, BuJaber wrote:
In post 273, Nero Cain wrote:lololololol

Dunk is tied for the lead wagon. Why in the world would I switch my vote to another scum read?

Could you explain why you are voting for dunk and not koki then?

I can't imagine anyone could scumread dunk without scumreading koki. So voting dunk doesn't make sense.

Or in other words.. tell me how you would read koki if dunk flips a) town and b) scum?
My thoughts=//=your thoughts. I still find your argument that Dunk and Koki have to be the same alignment a trash argument. What I can see a scum Dunk buddying a town.

So obviously if Dunk flipped scum then I'd think Koki is town (I already do) and if Dunk flipped town I wouldn't think it was AI for Koki.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #17) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:52 am

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As a follow up to Bujaber. If I were scum reading Koki, why would I join a smaller Koki wagon? Also, why are YOU on a smaller Koki wagon if you think both Koki and Dunk are scum?
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Post Post #288 (isolation #18) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:02 am

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Koki's flip has 0 implications that make Dunk town. The fuck kinda logic is that?
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Post Post #289 (isolation #19) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:05 am

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In post 287, BuJaber wrote:
In post 286, BuJaber wrote:
Only if dunk flips scum would I also think KOKI is scum.
EBWOP
So, you are basically wanting to flip someone that you aren't scumreading so you can get a read on another player?
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Post Post #295 (isolation #20) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:59 am

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In post 291, BuJaber wrote:Only if dunk flips scum would I also think KOKI is scum.
Am I reading this wrong?

The way its worded makes it sound like you don't really think Koki is scum unless Dunk flips scum.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #21) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:01 am

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In post 294, brassherald wrote:Can I ask why the Creature votes, I looked through his iso and he's done nothing that warrants much attention either way, in my view.
Creature is known for doing jack all as scum.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #22) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:31 pm

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Post Post #399 (isolation #23) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:37 pm

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errr VOTE: Ranmaru
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Post Post #402 (isolation #24) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:39 pm

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In post 401, Ranmaru wrote:Nero Cane.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #25) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:40 pm

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I mean, I sweet but I'm not candy.
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Post Post #407 (isolation #26) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:43 pm

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b/c he's your scumbuddy Gamma.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #27) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:54 pm

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In post 415, Gamma Emerald wrote:How is a misspelling scummy
You're right, it isn't.

vote:Gamma
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Post Post #420 (isolation #28) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:58 pm

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Post Post #426 (isolation #29) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:01 pm

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Dunk, what nation are you?
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Post Post #427 (isolation #30) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:10 pm

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In post 425, Ranmaru wrote:I also forgot that Nero Cain seriously thinks people using nicknames is a tell.
You forgot but then instantly posted to a game that was 6 years old?

But if you like read that post I wasn't just scumreading you for mispelling my name. At the time, I had caught a scum or two for doing the exact thing. Its like willingly antagonizing a player. My vote for you this game was just me having a bit of fun.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #31) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:15 pm

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In post 428, brassherald wrote:I should be insulted.
Well, it is kinda odd that you voted not Gamma.
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Post Post #432 (isolation #32) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:30 pm

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BTW, I had wanted to ask about this.
In post 222, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 216, Titus wrote:
In post 215, Gamma Emerald wrote:Breaking News: Nero Cain is the one who did the wrong-way association tell
?

@Brass, We can have both no?
He said Dunker's flip would be telling of Koki's alignment when it probably should be the other way around. As such his association is the wrong way. Because of that he is a possible scum rn, but probably the weakest scumread I have.
Why is Koki's flip telling of Dunk's alignment? I don't think it is at all and I think its the worst argument ever. Bu is dumb, you should die for sheeping him.

Like, unless you count
In post 134, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 105, BuJaber wrote:aybe koki's opener is NAI but when dunkerdoodle follows it up by voting koki for host it looks pretty suspicious to me
Shouldn't that say more about Dunk than koki?
I never had a post until recently that said anything about Dunk's flip being AI for Koki (and that's only if Dunk flips scum) and to suggest that 134 is is a bit of a stretch on your part.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #33) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:10 pm

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Post Post #438 (isolation #34) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:14 pm

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if Wikipedia say it is than by god its true
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Post Post #444 (isolation #35) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:05 pm

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stop rolefishing Joey.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #36) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:20 pm

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OMG Joey stop rolefishing.
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Post Post #455 (isolation #37) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:23 pm

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no offense but I don't really like any of the votes for hosts. I'm town, let me be it.

I haz panzers.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #38) » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:29 pm

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In post 290, Ranmaru wrote:So far I assume Shaziro and I want Chara as World Host. Who else does?

Faux Elect: Chara
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In post 338, Ranmaru wrote:Question:
How many scum are we assuming is in this game/setup?
Didn't like these much.

If you want Chara as host why would you not vote? Its like he's afraid to not do things that are popular.

The scond (bolded) doesn't matter but 5/16 is the going rate.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #39) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:06 am

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In post 461, BuJaber wrote:For him to actually think his reasoning is not just more correct but actually superior to mine is scummy. Basically he's too closed-minded to be town and I'm not someone worthy of being buddied so he doesn't care about butting heads with me.
ummmm...lol

Look guy, I can maybe understand a Koki/Dunk association read as in if Koki were to flip scum as in "OMG Dunk has to be a scumbuddy b/c he voted Koki!" but even that seems weak. What absolutely makes no sense to me is that you think a Koki town flip makes Dunk town. Sorry for not liking your logic.
In post 467, brassherald wrote:a claim of Masons with Nero
We can still be allies and sign a mutual protection pack, yes?
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Post Post #479 (isolation #40) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:07 am

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Jesus fuck stop rolefishing, joey.
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Post Post #483 (isolation #41) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:11 am

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VOTE:CHARA
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Post Post #484 (isolation #42) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:25 am

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In post 480, Chara wrote:456: votes are permanent, i know you know that. "why not just vote" is not a helpful question. :>
but it's still who he wants. The reason Dunk got some flack is b/c he used up his vote immediately without considering Koki's alignment. Its a very different situation than Ran who wants you as host and thinks you are the towniest player. I'm not seeing a drawback from him voting you for host b/c...
In post 2, Venmar wrote:The player with the second highest amount of votes for Host will choose a second resolution to vote for.
From this, it sounds like we don't need to reach a majority for the runner-up and I assume that applies to the host as well.

I also really don't like you answering a question directed at another player.
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Post Post #489 (isolation #43) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:27 am

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Germany is a now a proud member of N.A.C. or Nations against Chara.
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Post Post #493 (isolation #44) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:31 am

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In post 491, marshy wrote:no town player goes after ranmaru for their vote/main focus at this junction of the game.
lies. I just did.
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Post Post #495 (isolation #45) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:36 am

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you know what? I'm down with that.

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Post Post #497 (isolation #46) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:59 am

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In post 496, Shaziro wrote:you don't want to have to justify why you're unhappy with Ranmaru but fine with me doing the same thing.
ummmm I saw your point and moved on.
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Post Post #501 (isolation #47) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:24 am

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u do realize that I'm not even voting Ran right? At the least you are wrong, at the most you are sheeping scum.
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Post Post #523 (isolation #48) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:18 am

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I could see Ran as town with a red Chara.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #49) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:19 am

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Elbrin doesn't want to be host (and I assume 2nd place too). Varsoon?
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Post Post #528 (isolation #50) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:25 am

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I am gut town reading him.
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Post Post #529 (isolation #51) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:25 am

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In post 527, Titus wrote:
In post 524, Nero Cain wrote:Elbrin doesn't want to be host (and I assume 2nd place too). Varsoon?
*extends Olive branch* I could do Varsoon.
never knew we were at war?
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Post Post #530 (isolation #52) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:27 am

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RE Gamma:
In post 432, Nero Cain wrote:BTW, I had wanted to ask about this.
In post 222, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 216, Titus wrote:
In post 215, Gamma Emerald wrote:Breaking News: Nero Cain is the one who did the wrong-way association tell
?

@Brass, We can have both no?
He said Dunker's flip would be telling of Koki's alignment when it probably should be the other way around. As such his association is the wrong way. Because of that he is a possible scum rn, but probably the weakest scumread I have.
Why is Koki's flip telling of Dunk's alignment? I don't think it is at all and I think its the worst argument ever. Bu is dumb, you should die for sheeping him.

Like, unless you count
In post 134, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 105, BuJaber wrote:aybe koki's opener is NAI but when dunkerdoodle follows it up by voting koki for host it looks pretty suspicious to me
Shouldn't that say more about Dunk than koki?
I never had a post until recently that said anything about Dunk's flip being AI for Koki (and that's only if Dunk flips scum) and to suggest that 134 is is a bit of a stretch on your part.
Firstly, I feel like I'm being a bit misrepped here. Beyond that, I don't really like that he's sheeping Bu's logic here. Thoughts Brass?

Though TBF, he could be town if Creature is indeed scum and it's looking that way...
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Post Post #540 (isolation #53) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:32 am

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In post 526, Gamma Emerald wrote:The whole thing was a
hypothetical
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In post 526, Gamma Emerald wrote:Is this about me covering
hypotheticals
, and you're mistaking it for actual plans
Do you have any legit reads or is everything just hypothetical?
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Post Post #546 (isolation #54) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:35 am

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In post 535, Titus wrote:We always disagree and you always want to lynch me so I suppose so. :/ Kinda sad but true. Especially with your signup comments which are NAI.
TBF, you have been scum a good number of those times though.

In post 541, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 444, Nero Cain wrote:stop rolefishing Joey.
But he's not, he's telling people to back off cos of what is already stated
:lol: :facepalm:

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Post Post #550 (isolation #55) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:38 am

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In post 545, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 454, Nero Cain wrote:OMG Joey stop rolefishing.
All aboard the idiot wagon, choo choo!
Where's your vote chump?
In post 459, Joey_ wrote:
In post 454, Nero Cain wrote:OMG Joey stop rolefishing.
troll
In post 482, Joey_ wrote:
In post 481, Chara wrote:
In post 479, Nero Cain wrote:Jesus fuck stop rolefishing, joey.
do you know what rolefishing is. vote him or stop complaining.
Hes messing with me
Though it is kinda :igmeou: that you'd conveniently ignore these posts.
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Post Post #554 (isolation #56) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:42 am

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Even Joey knows that I'm not attacking him for rolefishing. :igmeou:
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Post Post #558 (isolation #57) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:45 am

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I know he's not. Jesus fuck.


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Post Post #565 (isolation #58) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:56 am

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In post 562, Gamma Emerald wrote:So did you actually think Joey was rolefishing or were you just rxn testing?
no and no
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Post Post #569 (isolation #59) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:59 am

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In post 550, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 459, Joey_ wrote:
In post 454, Nero Cain wrote:OMG Joey stop rolefishing.
troll
In post 482, Joey_ wrote:
In post 481, Chara wrote:
In post 479, Nero Cain wrote:Jesus fuck stop rolefishing, joey.
do you know what rolefishing is. vote him or stop complaining.
Hes messing with me
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Post Post #574 (isolation #60) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:03 am

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Gamma, you have no idea how to play mafia, so plz keep your opinions to yourself. You literally don't know how to play. You had to be taught by Titus. Enough said.
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Post Post #575 (isolation #61) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:04 am

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In post 572, pidgey wrote:Also im lame
Wich part?
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Post Post #577 (isolation #62) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:05 am

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Post Post #583 (isolation #63) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:11 am

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Brass
-Are you town reading Titus? I'm not really against her being the backup either.
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Post Post #584 (isolation #64) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:12 am

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In post 581, Titus wrote:
In post 574, Nero Cain wrote:
Gamma, you have no idea how to play mafia, so plz keep your opinions to yourself. You literally don't know how to play. You had to be taught by Titus. Enough said.
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Ouch why are you quoting this?
just to annoy the fuck out of Gamma.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #65) » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:32 am

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Have Gamma and Ran even played together before?
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Post Post #836 (isolation #66) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:20 am

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In post 825, Ranmaru wrote:Nero Cain,
seems to be looking for things to dig up
(like my Faux Chara vote)
but doesn't seem to be actively scumhunting
umm these two things pretty much contridict each other.
In post 824, Ranmaru wrote:Why did you go back and dig this up?
b/c it was suspicious to me and I wanted to explain my vote on you from earlier. Why did you fuss at me about me questioning you about not voting Chara and for "digging things up" but ignore me about you asking about setup? Why was a town you interested in what the setup was?
In post 824, Ranmaru wrote:I like this post.
Why is Bu's logic here good and why is it scummy that I disagree with said logic? TBF though, BU getting upset and butthurt seems genuine.
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Post Post #838 (isolation #67) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:43 am

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TBF, I did vote you right off the bat so I did act naturally.

Have you ever played in a 21 large player game before?

I find/found Gamma scummy b/c he was following BU logic that Koki=Dunks alignment and I thought he was scum parroting.
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Post Post #840 (isolation #68) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:47 am

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In post 839, marshy wrote:man nero is scummy. he needs to go before endgame as well
solid case. Will sheep.

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Post Post #841 (isolation #69) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:48 am

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but really we should prob lynch this guy

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Post Post #844 (isolation #70) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:03 am

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Varsoon
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Post Post #855 (isolation #71) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:40 am

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Post Post #865 (isolation #72) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:51 am

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In post 857, Gamma Emerald wrote:Says the guy who thinks I'm "sheeping BuJaber"
if you aren't then I'm really not understanding what you are saying or maybe what he's saying. Bu was (and I guess he still believes?) that Koki is scum and Dunk is scummy and scum with her. He also believes that if Koki flips town then Dunk is also town. I don't agree with either of those statements but it's the latter that makes absolutely no sense to me. You said to me that I was using a wrong way association tell as in Bu's logic is right.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #73) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:59 am

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In post 867, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah I was saying Bu was right with the association, but I wasn't sheeping BuJaber. 213 is where I worked out that Bu was right myself. If I were to sheep him 213 would not exist. Is this clear?
but its the EXACT same logic that Bu was pushing BEFORE you. Posting 213 still doesn't make you not a parrot.
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Post Post #876 (isolation #74) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:12 am

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I am dumb Gamma and need you to explain the difference in these.
In post 159, BuJaber wrote:Well no because if dunker and koki are both scum his vote makes sense as a scum move. If dunker is town it's just a dumb move. If dunker is scum and koki is town that makes even less sense as a move. So I vote koki who could be either scum or town. If he flips town that probably means dunker is town. If he flips scum dunker could be town but would very likely be scum.

In post 213, Gamma Emerald wrote:So I'm gonna try to break this down

Koki lynched d1
flips scum
Indicates Dunker could have been pushing a buddy as leader
flips town
Dunker probably genuinely trusted Koki

Dunker lynched d1
flips scum
Koki either buddy pushed as leader or town framed or thought of as a leader who would be weak
flips town
absolutely nothing on Koki

So it would make sense to flip Koki first out of those two
time to see who said the opposite, they're probably scum
btw this has nothing to do with my actual lynching plans, I think Koki is town and don't really have a read on Dunker yet
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Post Post #878 (isolation #75) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:17 am

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pls tell us who it is otherwise he'll nuke us on d5. RIP us.
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Post Post #886 (isolation #76) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:30 am

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pot? kettle?
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Post Post #895 (isolation #77) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:42 am

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In post 889, Gamma Emerald wrote:explain how I'm "being dense"
Remember that time you kept claiming that I was pushing Joey for rolefishing despite Joey himself saying that he knew I wasn't pushing him for rolefishing. I also feel like its a bit lame to call me dense for calling you on parroting. If you wanna get mad and thrown a hissy fit so be it.

I'd like to hear more on why you found Bujaber suspicious.
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Post Post #900 (isolation #78) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:49 am

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any links? posts?
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Post Post #903 (isolation #79) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:52 am

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In post 901, Joey_ wrote:we are basically waiting for the lurkers' votes correct?
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Post Post #908 (isolation #80) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:58 am

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In post 906, BuJaber wrote:-general mafia question: If I don't say the reason why am I allowed to meta read someone based on ongoing games? Feels like a no but I want to be sure. Well actually how do you stop yourself from subconsciously doing it anyway?
you can, you just can't talk about an ongoing game.
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #81) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:59 pm

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Chara
if you were suspicious of me why didnt you say anything about me before? at least I don't think you have.
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #82) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:35 pm

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In post 1022, Chara wrote:why am i scum, Nero?
Sans the Creature vote all your votes are on town. lol I look at your ISO and nothing really jumps out at me other than the fact that you seem to be calling alot of ppl town while being pretty lax on calling ppl scum and when you do it seems like its always "I agree with this person/I don't disagree with this wagon" it all seems very go with the flow and avoiding making waves.
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Post Post #1038 (isolation #83) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:43 pm

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waiting on useless luekers...again.
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #84) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:55 pm

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[6] brassherald: Nero Cain (1), Shaziro (1), Chara (1), Jodaxq (1), ranmaru (1), ActionDan (1)
[3] Kokichi Oma: Kokichi Oma (1), Dunkerdoodles (1), Joey_ (1)
[3] Elbirn: Elbirn (1), Bujaber (1), Varsoon (1)
[3] Titus: Titus (1), marshy (1), pidgey (1)

Of the wagons with 3 delegates, I prefer Titus.


not voting: Kiana Kaslana (1), brassherald (1), Creature (1), Gamma Emerald (1),

Both Brass and Gamma should vote Titus putting her at 5. Kiana can vote Brass meaning Creatures lone vote won't affect anything and thus we should get our resolutions by then.

Its already getting close to 50 pages. Let's get this show on the road.
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Post Post #1044 (isolation #85) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:03 pm

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Post Post #1047 (isolation #86) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:45 pm

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It doesn't matter to me who is the runner up between El and Titus but El didn't want it and so I picked Titus.
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Post Post #1062 (isolation #87) » Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:57 pm

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I think Ran is just bad town or, if Varsoons multiball spec/calculated slip turns out to be right then he's maybe Not Chara scum. Of that list I feel like Chara is the best flip though. I still feel like Gamma sheeping your logic was a scummy parrot. Him getting all ticked off is something that I could maybe see from town but I could also see it from scum...so I guess its null. *shrugz*

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Post Post #1246 (isolation #88) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:16 am

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Why in the world would Brass think I'm scum?
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #89) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:22 am

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In post 1247, Titus wrote:I happen to think you are town.
or maybe you're wrong and Brass was right. :P
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #90) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:29 am

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great point Gamma.
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #91) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:31 am

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In post 1253, Elbirn wrote:It references religious gold being particularly bad.
Ven taking a political stance here.
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Post Post #1272 (isolation #92) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:54 am

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In post 1260, Shaziro wrote:Embargoing Koichi isn't a scumclaim, it's Titus tunneling and she needs to stop. If she doesn't, then it's more likely scum!Titus
scum with the mediation here!

is there a mute resolution? If there is use that on Koki.
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Post Post #1285 (isolation #93) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:09 pm

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What if the gold has something to do with Koki's role? Like I could see town react that way too.
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #94) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:10 pm

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Gold is inca's btw
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Post Post #1291 (isolation #95) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:13 pm

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eh, I guess. I just think of Gold and wealth more with Inca than Aztecs but yeah you are right, it could be aztec.

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Post Post #1294 (isolation #96) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:16 pm

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pid, did you ever ISO me?
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Post Post #1297 (isolation #97) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:19 pm

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or maybe Koki is a leprechaun.

Don't ban me gold!
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #98) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:13 pm

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In post 1319, brassherald wrote:If Kokichi is town, there should be no issue with being embargoed, likely a VT, then.
Disagree. There's nothing to suggest that she's a VT.

Town with an overinflated value of self-worth is a thing and that's how I'm leaning with Koki.
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Post Post #1347 (isolation #99) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:21 pm

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I might vote Titus if she keeps holding up the resolutions phase.

I'm scum if Koki dies tonight.
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #100) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:30 pm

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just to clarify something but may not mean anything at all...the gold that's being proposed to be banned is a luxury resource. It makes ppl happy in the game. It is NOT the same as gold that you use to buy shit with. Although, you DO get like +2 to gold (+3 with some building) for each gold resource.
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #101) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:32 pm

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Why are we not protecting our natural wonders? Am I really the only hippie here?!?
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #102) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:34 pm

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In post 1357, Kokichi Oma wrote:Yeah, I know. But, I'm thinking more of the lines of the corruption that comes with Gold in the game.
Have you ever played Civ? I don't really think that's a thing. Although, I don't think I've ever really sat down and read a mechanics thing.
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #103) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:38 pm

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In post 1361, Kokichi Oma wrote:I've last played Civilization 5, so I figured it was the same. But, maybe not.

https://www.civfanatics.com/civ3/strate ... c-edition/
That's about Civ 3 not Civ V. :/
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #104) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:40 pm

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pretty sure its not thought there are other Civ players here too that may know more than me.
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #105) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:52 pm

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@Brass

In post 1358, Nero Cain wrote:Why are we not protecting our natural wonders? Am I really the only hippie here?!?
this was mostly a joke b/c IRL I'd consider myself a bit of an environmentalist.

Based on the list that you gave I'd pick peackeep and fund arts? Like, in the game I'm against the ban of luxuries and embargoing city states. Outguessing the mod is a bit dumb but if I took a stab I'd say that luxuries and wonders give the players bonuses but its prob for all players (both scum and town). Embargo a player I bet is a roleblock.
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Post Post #1377 (isolation #106) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:06 pm

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Was civ 3 the one where you could like turn your population into police officers and dancers and tax collecters?
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Post Post #1382 (isolation #107) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:13 pm

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Why would you think a mechanic in Civ 3 was in Civ V if you've never played Civ V?
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #108) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:14 pm

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In post 1380, Elbirn wrote:2. Giving everyone a buff I think helps scum more than town, I'd rather do a science buff to someone we trust. Is there any reason we can't peacekeep AND sciencefund Brass?
I can agree with that. So science is just for Brass? If so, do that one.
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Post Post #1434 (isolation #109) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:43 pm

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In post 1394, Shaziro wrote:Side note: What are the odds that, for balance's sake, there aren't really any resolutions that are explicitly pro-town or pro-scum, and they all have boons or banes for both factions? It would make much more sense from a game design perspective, in order to keep the mechanic from becoming too imbalanced. For instance, banning a particular luxury might turn off both a Scum role -and- a Town role, or maybe even multiple of one or the other depending on where power sits. I think looking at this from a "THIS IS EXPLICITLY PRO OR ANTI TOWN" perspective is wrong, and hazardous.
Oh, thank God you are here to repeat something I already talked about.
In post 1370, Nero Cain wrote:if I took a stab I'd say that luxuries and wonders give the players bonuses but its prob for all players (both scum and town).
What would we ever do without you?!?

Though I expect for you to be all like "but its different b/c I'm talking about things in a more general sense." Still, close enough for government work.

And it's not this groundbreaking revelation that you are acting like it is so I dunno. It's like "look at me, I'm doing things" and it's kinda scummy. Also what El said.
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #110) » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:06 pm

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@Chara
I must be overlooking it but I'm pretty sure you made a post about not knowing what these resolutions mean and not knowing anything about Civ. And an earlier post about not liking larges?

Weren't you in the other Civ game, did you learn nothing? Why did you join this game?
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Post Post #1491 (isolation #111) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:28 am

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In post 1488, Nerd Complex wrote:
In post 1455, Titus wrote:
In post 1454, brassherald wrote:
In post 1451, Titus wrote:
In post 1441, brassherald wrote:
In post 1431, Titus wrote:@Varsoon, Do you think I should science boost brass myself elbrin or you?
Do the science boost on Nero Cain.
Nero is a major wagon... :/ So I won't do him.
Nero should not be a major wagon.
Yes but he is and I'm not putting my own reads above everyone else. The resolution will be available tomorrow so we can do Nero if he shows himself town to others.
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Post Post #1492 (isolation #112) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:30 am

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In post 1475, Maestro wrote:Silk often appears in inappropriate and undesirable situations, and is associated with some of the worst kinds of people around the world
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #113) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:34 am

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Maestro works for the nylon industry and he's trying to influence ppl to hate silk.
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Post Post #1501 (isolation #114) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:49 am

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In post 1475, Maestro wrote:[Congressional Peace-keeping ~ brassherald] - The world is full of unforeseen threats. Assign delegates supporting or opposing a player in need of Congressional peace-keeping armies in their nation. A player may not assign delegates to themselves.
This resolution may not be enacted consecutively
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maybe we shouldn't use it today?
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #115) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:53 am

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In post 844, Nero Cain wrote:
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Post Post #1508 (isolation #116) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:55 am

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My line of thinking is that night 1 is the best night to have confirmed protection in the game unless ya'll think this game has no protection roles lol
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #117) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:00 am

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I was barely around d1 but she was pretty lurky all game.
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #118) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:07 am

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You do know that if we just not peacekeep tonight and put the doc on him we will have the peacekeep around tomorrow just in case the dc dies tonight.
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #119) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:10 am

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Like Shaz, your thing is "lets peacekeep brass. Scum knows that brass is safe so scum'll shoot for protective." and if that protective dies and we can't peacekeep tmrw then Brass is just boned.
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #120) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:35 am

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b/c everyone loves Brazil
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Post Post #1525 (isolation #121) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:36 am

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In post 1521, Chara wrote:Nero: why are Dan and dunker town?
POE
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Post Post #1533 (isolation #122) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:41 am

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In post 1529, Chara wrote:need a better answer considering you also have nulls on your readslist.
you're this confident in all of your scumreads?
my only nulls are 2 ppl that haven't been here to contribute lol.

I mean, its day 1so I'm prob way wrong but that's mostly how I feel.
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #123) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:41 am

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HOW CAN SHE KEEP UP WITHOUT THE INTERNET?!?
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #124) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:48 am

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In post 1536, Chara wrote:i guess i don't understand the distinction between two players you don't have a read on but are PoE, and two players you don't have a read on but are not PoE.
I'm saying there are scummier players than Dan and Dunk and thus I am POE town reading them. I am also saying that the Assembler slot and the Joda slot have not been here to contribute and thus I don't have a read on them.
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Post Post #1547 (isolation #125) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:04 am

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Part of me thinks that a Dunker scum would be smart enough to know not to question the scum read on a universally scum read buddy. Also, I'd have to believe that Bujaber is scum and thats a brave new world that I might not want to live in.
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Post Post #1553 (isolation #126) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:29 am

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you suggested that we lynch Koki and if she flips town then Dunk is town too.
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Post Post #1601 (isolation #127) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:05 pm

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Why is this taking so long?

its obvious that we are gonna pass both so I'm not sure why you guys are dragging your feet.

[3] HEAL: SUPPORTING [Ban Luxury ~ Silk] Shaziro (1), Varsoon (1), Klazam (1)
[0] HURT: OPPOSING [Ban Luxury ~ Silk]

[8] HEAL: SUPPORTING [Congressional Peace-keeping ~ brassherald] Titus (1), Gamma Emerald (1), marshy (1), Almost50 (1), pidgey (1), BuJaber (1), Dunkerdoodles (1), ranmaru (1)
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the following bolded feet draggers are either horrible people or scum. 3 more votes on peacekeeping and the rest ban silk
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Post Post #1602 (isolation #128) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:06 pm

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and yes I know I'm not voting so don't bring it up. Its fucking weak.
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Post Post #1603 (isolation #129) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:17 pm

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though I guess tbf, since the resolutions pass as long as there are more heals than hurts, it doesn't matter that much and we could just power lynch Creature to end the day and both would still pass. Just seemed odd to me that players were being active and not voting the resolutions.
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Post Post #1605 (isolation #130) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:31 pm

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There is a civ V group. Do you have G+K and BNW or just vanilla?
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #131) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:43 pm

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ah, the famous Joey whine.
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Post Post #1618 (isolation #132) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:46 pm

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ok, lets power lynch Creature.

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Post Post #1622 (isolation #133) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:51 pm

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I think he's at 8 votes and it's 11 to lynch
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Post Post #1627 (isolation #134) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:53 pm

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not really. Should I have put you as a scum lean?
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Post Post #1631 (isolation #135) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:59 pm

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I don't have any town leans? I assume you are referring to my latest list about how I kinda feel at this stage and I'm either hard scum reading ppl or POE town reading ppl.
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #136) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:01 pm

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I mean, TBF I'm color blind and I might have used different color greens but it doesn't mean anything.
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Post Post #1636 (isolation #137) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:04 pm

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Shaz or Chara
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Post Post #1638 (isolation #138) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:06 pm

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b/c I can
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Post Post #1642 (isolation #139) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:08 pm

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At least I can spell famous!
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Post Post #1647 (isolation #140) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:12 pm

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In post 1640, Ranmaru wrote:I think I have vanilla. I'm down to play some Civ and in fact will need to to understand the game mechanics here even better.
The World Congress isn't in the vanilla game. Civ games or on sale right now so I bet the expansions are too. You should buy them.
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Post Post #1649 (isolation #141) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:18 pm

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Yeah, both expansions are 7.50 rn
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Post Post #1654 (isolation #142) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:49 pm

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we are banning silk
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Post Post #1662 (isolation #143) » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:43 pm

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Don't tell anyone I said this but he's scum.
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Post Post #1720 (isolation #144) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:09 pm

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HURT: peacekeeping
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #145) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:46 pm

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lol no but ok
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Post Post #1727 (isolation #146) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:56 pm

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im just scum
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Post Post #1729 (isolation #147) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:58 pm

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Post Post #1807 (isolation #148) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:11 pm

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In post 1802, Kiana Kaslana wrote:Dear Prime Minister of *****,

Lady Kiana believes that you are a fun player and would like to invite you for some tea and biscuits in her peaceful Nation. Lady Kiana would also like to give you some advice on how to be fun without being scummy. We hope you will accept our invitation.

With warmest regards,
Lady Kiana
DON'T DO IT. It's A TRAP!
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Post Post #1810 (isolation #149) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:12 pm

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In post 1752, Klazam wrote:Nero's general behavior has been antitown.
explain.
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Post Post #1813 (isolation #150) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:14 pm

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In post 1809, Elbirn wrote:You know we hammered without even seeing the resolutions pass and what they would have done this day phase. So that's cool. Gg ez..
This is kinda funny considering you called me a dick for telling ppl to hurry up and vote and now you are fussing at ppl for not voting.
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Post Post #1815 (isolation #151) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:19 pm

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im p sure the resolutions still pass as long as they have more heal than hurt votes.
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Post Post #1819 (isolation #152) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:44 pm

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In post 1818, Kokichi Oma wrote:The floor is now lava
GET THE FUCK OFF THE GROUND!

did all kids pretend that the floor was lava? I remember me and my brother would do it in the living room thus I loved the Community episode that did it.
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Post Post #1823 (isolation #153) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:49 pm

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In post 1821, BuJaber wrote:I just don't think scum would have such an overlapping scumlist as mine.
He couldn't be scum that's sheeping you?
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Post Post #1826 (isolation #154) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:14 pm

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In post 1825, BuJaber wrote:
In post 1823, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1821, BuJaber wrote:I just don't think scum would have such an overlapping scumlist as mine.
He couldn't be scum that's sheeping you?
No because I don't think I've been very clear on who I'm scumreading and why would he sheep me? I'm not a top poster, and I'm not the only one on his wagon. Why me specificaly?
*shrugz* Why does scum choose to buddy who they choose to buddy? it doesn't really matter. Other than Chara I think I'm town reading your whole scum list you gave a few pages ago. What if you are just that wrong and scum decides to sheep said reads knowing they are wrong? I think its plausible at least.
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Post Post #1827 (isolation #155) » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:20 pm

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In post 1742, Klazam wrote:Gamma, Nero, Kok (maybe), dunk
the last 3 are all most likely town. Gamma could be scum I guess.
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Post Post #1874 (isolation #156) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:18 am

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vote:A50
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #157) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:23 am

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Joey, is Bujaber scum for trying to force a town read on Dunk by claiming he was the same role as koki?
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #158) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:24 am

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Also, Gamma is orange scum. hehehehue
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Post Post #1884 (isolation #159) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:29 am

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naw, Shaz is too busy active lurking to produce reads.

I kinda agree. I think Gamma is the scum that was sheeping said bad logic.
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Post Post #1899 (isolation #160) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:40 am

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In post 1887, Klazam wrote:Why are you specifying orangescum here? does that matter?
b/c he is orange scum. duh
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Post Post #1905 (isolation #161) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:44 am

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I think its prob 4/4/ 13 like a50 slipped.
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Post Post #1916 (isolation #162) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:53 am

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bullshit, you know what a weak modifier is
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Post Post #1919 (isolation #163) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:55 am

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TO ME!


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Post Post #1925 (isolation #164) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:00 am

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In post 1912, Gamma Emerald wrote:And this is why you're scum.
I do have an interesting question. It's a bit open-ended though. In light of Dunk flipping scum, how do you feel about your desire to lynch Koki and town read Dunk if Koki had flipped town?
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Post Post #1935 (isolation #165) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:09 am

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In post 1923, BuJaber wrote:Willing to vote for gamma/nero when I fugure out which is the better lynch.
Is your scum read on me based on anything other than me calling your logic dumb?

In post 1926, Shaziro wrote:
In post 1884, Nero Cain wrote:naw, Shaz is too busy active lurking to produce reads.

I kinda agree. I think Gamma is the scum that was sheeping said bad logic.
My grandfather was sick in the hospital and then died, I am now in another state so I can attend his funeral. Piss off with your “active lurking” bullshit. I don’t care if you’re scum just looking for an easy accusation to throw, that’s astoundingly low, and entirely inaccurate at that. Read my V/LA tag and my iso.
I don't really feel like this is a townie response. That whole "ur a meany head b/c u are accusing me of being scum while I'm going through a tragedy." It's like a discredit. Also, you ARE active and posting. It's just all setup spec/inside info and I feel like you aren't scum hunting.
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Post Post #1956 (isolation #166) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:27 am

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In post 1937, brassherald wrote:P-Edit: Nero stop being a douche.
I am not. He's prob just scum thats discrediting. Like, I just got out of a game where I accused scum of lurking and his hydra partner basically did the same thing here as Shaz. Of course, the argument will become "just 'cause one scum reacted like that in another game doesn't mean Shaz is scum in this game." Like, if I was accusing Shaz of faking his grandads death for ATE then yeah, I'd be a huge asshole but I'm not. His IRL doesn't mean he wasn't able to get a scum pm here.
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Post Post #1961 (isolation #167) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:28 am

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In post 1955, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1874, Nero Cain wrote:
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This is another person I will not be playing with in the future. We don't lose anything if I get lynched here, but it's a matter of principle. I wouldn't mind vigging you if I didn't think you are the vig. (Yes, that's me being anti-town as fuck. This is becoming really frustrating and beyond ridiculous from the "lynch A50 in every game" fan club)
Really don't care. Like if you are gonna lurk or w/e don't get mad when ppl call you scum.
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Post Post #1966 (isolation #168) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:31 am

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In post 1951, BuJaber wrote:nero I want to see your flip to decide on a few things including whether you v gamma is TvS or TvT.
thats a pretty piss poor reason to "scumread" me.
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Post Post #1973 (isolation #169) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:37 am

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So I should be willing to get lynched just to not dismiss him? Like if Bu has a case I can show him where he's wrong but if his sole reasoning is "I don't know how to read you so I want to flip you" then I'm just gonna dismiss him
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Post Post #1975 (isolation #170) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:39 am

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In post 1971, Almost50 wrote:If you truly believe so, how come you're voting me with him when my play on D1 at least suggests I'm not Scum with Creature?! Do you have a brain or do you just fire in all directions like your avatar does?
I'm not even voting you old man. Read the fucking thread. Also, there's more than one scum team so your suggestion that I shouldn't scum read you b/c you can't be on one team is pretty pants on head...
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Post Post #1982 (isolation #171) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:47 am

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@Bu
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Post Post #1985 (isolation #172) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:49 am

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In post 1981, Almost50 wrote:Nero (unfortunately)
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Post Post #1992 (isolation #173) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:02 am

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What do you spread?
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Post Post #1997 (isolation #174) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:04 am

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Why can't town have two? Who is obv?
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #175) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:07 am

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If you targeted me last night then I didn't get it.
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Post Post #2020 (isolation #176) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:25 am

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IKR! I want to go to mass and take communion.
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Post Post #2035 (isolation #177) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:37 am

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Whoever speculated that religion works like a fruit vendor and AD's post about religion based resolutions...there's a happy medium between the two.
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Post Post #2045 (isolation #178) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:48 am

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lets be allies, Titus.
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Post Post #2054 (isolation #179) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:59 am

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you were lurking d1, A50. Just get over yourself. You say and do scummy shit every game. You can't really get mad @ ppl for calling you scum when you act like it.
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Post Post #2067 (isolation #180) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:07 am

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In post 2056, brassherald wrote:I don't see scum mentioning that he targeted me with an ability Night 1.
I slightly disagree but there being one or more town religion spreaders makes sense setupwise to me.
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Post Post #2314 (isolation #181) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:21 am

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In post 2307, Almost50 wrote: I'm 99.99% certain Elbrin died if a direct shot at him and it's 98.99% from the red team (the 1% is reserved for an insane Vig and/or a redirector)
pls stop making unspecified claims. At the least its dumb. At most scummy.
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Post Post #2318 (isolation #182) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:05 am

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In post 2136, Almost50 wrote:Elbrin DID target Gamma, but he dies of a direct shot from the Orange Mafia PRECISELY TO FRAME GAMMA. He was a BODYGUARD not a Hider, so he would still die from direct shots.
Did you even read his role? He
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targets n1 meaning he'd die if he targeted scum. Not sure if this is just a50 being dumb or if A50 is scum that is trying to misrep/misinform the situation.

I mean sure, El could have been shot but I think it's just as likely that he died b/c Gamma was scum. At the same time, I feel like the smart thing to do was target Brass but I don't think scum would have shot at Brass knowing that he was protected. So I agree with a50 that scum shot at EL and I wonder id this is maybe a slip.
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Post Post #2320 (isolation #183) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:08 am

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Gamma

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Post Post #2323 (isolation #184) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:09 am

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whoops forgot about a50's claim. He's just dumb town talking out of his ass.
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Post Post #2324 (isolation #185) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:10 am

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In post 2321, ActionDan wrote:I really don't think it's either of those :(
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Post Post #2328 (isolation #186) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:17 am

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gamma's questions to the mod are fucking weak. He looks like scum that's trying to look busy and he's still scummy A F for his sheeping Bujabers silly d1 logic. Even if it was a hypothetical. (whatever that fucking means.) It means he was pouring gasoline on a potential koki lynch.

and we are 94 pages in and you have no scumreads?
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Post Post #2329 (isolation #187) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:26 am

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idk, part of me is tempted to not lynch the watcher claim but I still think he's super scummy. Shaz active lurking and doing more setup spec than scumhunting rubs me the wrong way.
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Post Post #2331 (isolation #188) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:38 am

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In post 2330, Chara wrote:pedit: i really didn't know what to make of the religion spec, either. it's a theory, but considering i townread Varsoon's approach i don't know how to approach it myself.
is this to me?
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Post Post #2333 (isolation #189) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:43 am

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I wasn't really talking about that specific thing but I think if you ISO him you'll find way more posts that speculate on the setup or what the resolutions do and stuff like that.
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Post Post #2334 (isolation #190) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:46 am

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In post 2330, Chara wrote:B) good point.
What if he's not a watcher though and wouldn't know?

Why does Gamma watch Brass when he knew Brass would be protected?
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Post Post #2336 (isolation #191) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:51 am

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I think you are town. Am I scumm 4 that?
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Post Post #2340 (isolation #192) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:58 am

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Well, Gamma was tracked to Brass. What else would he have fakeclaimed?


Germany and Spain are now allies. Germany has vowed to declare war on anyone that attacks Spain.


Target me tonight Pid.
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Post Post #2343 (isolation #193) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:04 pm

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Why would Gamma roleblock Brass?

agreed on your point about it being a good scum fakeclaim meaning it's not true.
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Post Post #2345 (isolation #194) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:06 pm

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In post 2342, pidgey wrote:GILIPOLLAS!!
In post 2338, pidgey wrote:CALLA TONTO!
Why do you say such mean things? :/
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Post Post #2346 (isolation #195) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:10 pm

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In post 2344, Chara wrote:what do you imagine he was trying to do, then?
idk, no point in investigating him or trying to kill him unless as you say he was a strongman...I'm sure there's other non killing non invest scum roles. A scum watcher is actually a possibility as well.
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Post Post #2360 (isolation #196) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:23 pm

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In post 2349, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2314, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2307, Almost50 wrote: I'm 99.99% certain Elbrin died if a direct shot at him and it's 98.99% from the red team (the 1% is reserved for an insane Vig and/or a redirector)
pls stop making unspecified claims. At the least its dumb. At most scummy.
pls stop trying to discredit me me and my ways. At the least its dumb. At most scummy.
It's not really discrediting you, it's just me being frustrated with you being so confident in things you possibly can't know. Its like how you called mom 100% town despite her being 1005 scum and you 100% wrong. :lol:

Like I see all of A. EL died b/c he decided to use role as a hider and Gamma was scum so he died B. He was pushing orange scum (Varsoon) so they killed him. C. and it kinda ties in with B but Gamma is scum and they shot him(EL) to keep EL from investigating him(Gamma) or D. It was to frame Gamma. as equally plausible and uninformed minority arbitrarily picking between these 4 possibilities is both arrogant and shortsighted. With the possibility that you are a gamma buddy and trying to steer town away from a possible Gamma lynch by claiming it was a frame job.

Thought Occam's points to B I feel.
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Post Post #2361 (isolation #197) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:25 pm

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In post 2356, Almost50 wrote:History is repeating itself it seems. But shouldn't you have been allied with Italy first?
closest to Italy is Rome or Venice but WTF would I want their one city? :yawn:
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Post Post #2362 (isolation #198) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:37 pm

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In post 2136, Almost50 wrote:He was a BODYGUARD not a Hider,
and that's the other thing. He was weak on n1 and you just kinda gloss over that fact. I mean, yeah him getting shot is most likely correct but I didn't really like the way you glossed over that he was weak b/c him being a weak bg on n1 means his role was effectively a hider n1 and it feels like a massive discredit to the "El died b/c he targeted Gamma and Gamma was scum" theory. Like its one thing to say "no, I don't believe such a theory." and "NOPE! He was BG not hider"
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Post Post #2363 (isolation #199) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:55 pm

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oh stupid me, I meant to ask you about your thoughts on his(Gamma) content. Like obviously you are town reading him (or atleast thinking that he's not orange scum) but I'd like to hear your thoughts on his play. And if you have just link it.
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