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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:30 am

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In post 631, Havo wrote:I’m being completely genuine. So I don’t see from my perspective how anyone could argue that I’m not.

So I see anyone arguing that case as just a wee bit suspicious, ya know?
This however is :igmeou:
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:32 am

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Tchill on page 16 is bleeding town IMO.
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:33 am

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In post 697, Ausuka wrote:I don't really get the Havo votes on page 25. On that page I can only see playstyle-related things.
you don't understand the process of pressuring somebody?
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:34 am

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In post 673, Cedrick wrote:
implosion Mar 10, 11:07pm Mar 12, 07:58pm 0 days 18 hours 24
Ausuka Mar 11, 04:49am Mar 13, 03:36am 0 days 10 hours 20
Mumble Mar 10, 09:50pm Mar 12, 08:39pm 0 days 17 hours 13
katherine Mar 10, 09:42pm Mar 12, 03:04am 1 day 11 hours 9
20 posts in 2-3 days isn't lurking.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:34 am

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In post 701, Ausuka wrote:Tchill on page 16 is bleeding town IMO.
tchill had 1 post on page 16.

want to try again?
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:35 am

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In post 703, Ausuka wrote:
In post 673, Cedrick wrote:
implosion Mar 10, 11:07pm Mar 12, 07:58pm 0 days 18 hours 24
Ausuka Mar 11, 04:49am Mar 13, 03:36am 0 days 10 hours 20
Mumble Mar 10, 09:50pm Mar 12, 08:39pm 0 days 17 hours 13
katherine Mar 10, 09:42pm Mar 12, 03:04am 1 day 11 hours 9
20 posts in 2-3 days isn't lurking.
normally it wouldn't be, but in this game it definitely is. Plus I thought we were further along, i didn't realize we were only 3 days in.
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:38 am

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In post 693, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 686, Ausuka wrote:
In post 597, Gamma Emerald wrote: 3. You have also used AtE yourself this game. It's quite understandable given the lack of reasoning behind people's votes against him.
I don't like Garciaing but kts has a point with point one. I recall getting suspected a lot in the past for leaps in my progression of reads, when I didn't take care to articulate how the read morphed. Implosion was in one of the earliest instances of this, Mini 1838. Honestly it's somewhat concerning he didn't think of that himself.
So Implo is meant to remember mislynching you in a game a year and a half ago, and then thinking that that instance of being wrong about your progression makes progression an invalid reason to scumread someone? :?
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Still not sure why he's supposed to remember that though? I mean I suppose it's possible he remembered a wagon that didn't lead to a lynch from 1.5 years ago, but I'm not sure why you think it's suspicious that he didn't.
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:39 am

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In post 702, Cedrick wrote:
In post 697, Ausuka wrote:I don't really get the Havo votes on page 25. On that page I can only see playstyle-related things.
you don't understand the process of pressuring somebody?
I was under the impression the votes were because Havo was being scummy? I mean even if it's pressure you still pressure the person you think is scummy right?
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:40 am

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In post 704, Cedrick wrote:
In post 701, Ausuka wrote:Tchill on page 16 is bleeding town IMO.
tchill had 1 post on page 16.

want to try again?
I meant page 26, sorry.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:42 am

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In post 700, Ausuka wrote:
In post 631, Havo wrote:I’m being completely genuine. So I don’t see from my perspective how anyone could argue that I’m not.

So I see anyone arguing that case as just a wee bit suspicious, ya know?
This however is :igmeou:
Why do you think that town can't mistakenly think you're not being genuine?
Because that’s a basic cornerstone tactic to push a scum read. So when someone says you’re not being genuine and I know I am, it makes me think there’s an alterior motive involved. From my point of view.

But I concede your point. You are correct, town can be wrong on that.
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:47 am

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In post 708, Ausuka wrote:
In post 704, Cedrick wrote:
In post 701, Ausuka wrote:Tchill on page 16 is bleeding town IMO.
tchill had 1 post on page 16.

want to try again?
I meant page 26, sorry.
Yeah I’ll disagree with that also. His hard defense of havo is weird. His assumption that just cause people are voting havo means people town read the other 2 is not only weird but factually incorrect.
Also he contradicted himself in a very scummy manner.

I’m more confident of my scum read of him because of 26
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:48 am

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In post 707, Ausuka wrote:
In post 702, Cedrick wrote:
In post 697, Ausuka wrote:I don't really get the Havo votes on page 25. On that page I can only see playstyle-related things.
you don't understand the process of pressuring somebody?
I was under the impression the votes were because Havo was being scummy? I mean even if it's pressure you still pressure the person you think is scummy right?
Well yeah. Havo is kind of scummy. Hence the need to pressure him. I question anyone who is able to town read him cause I don’t see much town AI stuf
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:16 am

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In post 696, Gamma Emerald wrote:nevermind checked for myself. 3 days. 3 days and Cedrick says it's gone on forever.
IRL time doesn't matter. We're almost at page 30 and we're about as split as can be. When we inevitably lynch town it'll just reaffirm why I hate day 1s so much.
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:18 am

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Gamma I didn't mean to all caps your name lol.
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:20 am

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In post 710, Cedrick wrote:
In post 708, Ausuka wrote:
In post 704, Cedrick wrote:
In post 701, Ausuka wrote:Tchill on page 16 is bleeding town IMO.
tchill had 1 post on page 16.

want to try again?
I meant page 26, sorry.
Yeah I’ll disagree with that also. His hard defense of havo is weird. His assumption that just cause people are voting havo means people town read the other 2 is not only weird but factually incorrect.
Also he contradicted himself in a very scummy manner.

I’m more confident of my scum read of him because of 26
It is factually correct that if you vote someone then you believe those you are not voting are more town than the person you are voting. If you want to claim your vote is "pressure" that's fine. It loses half its meaning but that's not on me that's on you. Your vote is your biggest weapons as a VT and I assume all players are VT until given a reason not to.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:21 am

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In post 711, Cedrick wrote:
In post 707, Ausuka wrote:
In post 702, Cedrick wrote:
In post 697, Ausuka wrote:I don't really get the Havo votes on page 25. On that page I can only see playstyle-related things.
you don't understand the process of pressuring somebody?
I was under the impression the votes were because Havo was being scummy? I mean even if it's pressure you still pressure the person you think is scummy right?
Well yeah. Havo is kind of scummy. Hence the need to pressure him. I question anyone who is able to town read him cause I don’t see much town AI stuf
Same goes for chumba and Katherine.
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:27 am

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In post 698, Cedrick wrote:
In post 696, Gamma Emerald wrote:nevermind checked for myself. 3 days. 3 days and Cedrick says it's gone on forever.
that's it? holy fuck it feels like a month.

if we are going to take the full 14 days i'm probably going to replace out. We are like 30 pages in 3 days :facepalm:
Okay seriously who is your main, because this feels like a weird comment. Why is that so many for you?
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:27 am

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In post 714, Tchill13 wrote:It is factually correct that if you vote someone then you believe those you are not voting are more town than the person you are voting.
I don’t agree that’s factually correct at all considering my highest scum read remains kts
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:28 am

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In post 10, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: katherine
Too many already.
btw I'm super excited about this playerlist
In post 157, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 108, Tchill13 wrote:I don't think there's enough reason to scum read mumble. I do appreciate activity but I feel like you're definitely trying to take control of the game and I also don't like how you pointed out you could be aggressive as scum also.
In post 81, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: mumble
VOTE: Tchill
Kinda crazy that gamma opened up with a vote on Katherine and the two times he voted me was for pushing either Katherine or mumble...
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:28 am

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In post 717, Cedrick wrote:
In post 714, Tchill13 wrote:It is factually correct that if you vote someone then you believe those you are not voting are more town than the person you are voting.
I don’t agree that’s factually correct at all considering my highest scum read remains kts
This means nothing if your vote isn't there. Actions speak louder than words.
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:29 am

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In post 706, Ausuka wrote:
In post 693, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 686, Ausuka wrote:
In post 597, Gamma Emerald wrote: 3. You have also used AtE yourself this game. It's quite understandable given the lack of reasoning behind people's votes against him.
I don't like Garciaing but kts has a point with point one. I recall getting suspected a lot in the past for leaps in my progression of reads, when I didn't take care to articulate how the read morphed. Implosion was in one of the earliest instances of this, Mini 1838. Honestly it's somewhat concerning he didn't think of that himself.
So Implo is meant to remember mislynching you in a game a year and a half ago, and then thinking that that instance of being wrong about your progression makes progression an invalid reason to scumread someone? :?
Okay first of all just because I said I was pushed for something doesn't mean you can autopilot to "oh he got lynched that game". I actually got nightkilled after claiming at L-1,
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Sorry gamma <3

Still not sure why he's supposed to remember that though? I mean I suppose it's possible he remembered a wagon that didn't lead to a lynch from 1.5 years ago, but I'm not sure why you think it's suspicious that he didn't.
Well he remembered a game from within five years so I feel like he'd remember that one too? Especially given it's his only game with me so far before this one.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:31 am

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In post 713, Tchill13 wrote:Gamma I didn't mean to all caps your name lol.
Ah. It felt like an attack and I didn't want to go ballistic off of what might be nothing so I decided to calmly ask before taking offense.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:33 am

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In post 715, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 711, Cedrick wrote:
In post 707, Ausuka wrote:
In post 702, Cedrick wrote:
In post 697, Ausuka wrote:I don't really get the Havo votes on page 25. On that page I can only see playstyle-related things.
you don't understand the process of pressuring somebody?
I was under the impression the votes were because Havo was being scummy? I mean even if it's pressure you still pressure the person you think is scummy right?
Well yeah. Havo is kind of scummy. Hence the need to pressure him. I question anyone who is able to town read him cause I don’t see much town AI stuf
Same goes for
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