[Mini 1987] Snowman's Bad Idea Mafia: Aliens [GG]

[Chickadee]

Hey everybody! Super excited to be here. I'm currently skimming/reading over the game so far. I'm up to page 9, but am not reading in-depth. I just want to get a feel for things to start off.

[Chickadee]

Okay, WOW, I have been operating under a false assumption this whole time. My meta read is now out the window ;-;

I have been reading through thinking the same thing.....

[Chickadee]

Ok, I have skimmed the thread. I know the gist of what's going on.

Creature/Momo town
Brandi town
Math town


TIAM's condition being 50% successful makes me think y'all should unvote him, but it also makes me really want to lynch him. It's too wifomy (which auto wants to correct to wifey). Either way, I don't think I'll be voting there today, just because I'm not sure if it makes him happy or not. If it makes him happy, I definitely don't want to do it.

[Chickadee]

Do you have commitment issues chickadee?:)

Do you want me to vote you?

[Chickadee]

I don't really know Wilky at all or what his(?) username meant, but I don't think that seems to be the case for my slot.


Possibly just coincidence.

[Chickadee]

Great talk.

Hey Math, I believe it was you who said something about setup spec being useless this early in a bastard game. <3

[Chickadee]

Great talk.

Hey Math, I believe it was you who said something about setup spec being useless this early in a bastard game. <3

I figured non randomness in role distribution would be pretty valuable
Forgot Creature's game do Doon?

Oh god...that game.

[Chickadee]

EBWOP: "so soon"
autocorrect lol

so chickadee who we lynchin'
cuz i started that convo cuz we had nothing better to do

I don't know. Not jurassic, Brandi, you or 2.


Maybe Vax. Thoughts?

[Chickadee]

Also, how would leashing TIAM work for us?

Stump the scum



@Dino, I see your question from last page. I'm not ignoring you, I just need to look back over the flash wagon.

[Chickadee]

so chickadee who we lynchin'

I don't know. Not jurassic, Brandi, you or 2.

Maybe Vax. Thoughts?

vaxkiller is prob town tbh
vaxtownread has the creature seal of approval

i think i could lynch whemestar? i'd have to check the ISO again
did you have any thoughts on the viomi flashwagon? cuz that was a main turning point in the game

Ok cool, I'm not crazy. I literally wasn't remembering a viomi flash wagon. Vax and eth0s were voting there for a while, but I didn't really see a flash wagon. Are you talking about the TIAM flash wagon?

[Chickadee]

Ooo another viomi flash wagon.

Ok.

I like all the votes in the first one except Wheme's.
@TIAM, you've been saying over and over that you will not be leashed. Then you naked vote right after this post.

assuming TIAM agrees to a night choice that's not idiotic

then yes

otherwise we just lynch TIAM tbh

we'll probably have to anyway at some point

VOTE: Viomi

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I'll refrain from voting at the moment so people can check in.




Also I work all day tomorrow, so I will have limited access.

[Chickadee]

I’d volunteer to be investigated.


Someday I’ll learn how to onvtown. I’ve only ever successfully down it by accident.

[Chickadee]

Autocorrect....you guys know what I meant. Obvtown and done

[Chickadee]

Math I think we have enough on viomi’s role at the moment. We can always revisit it later. What she said seems pretty straight forward to me, and personally I don’t think it’s in towns best interest for scum to know what other actions she could have.

[Chickadee]

Damn that’s gonna take a long time.

[Chickadee]

Also 4 and a half days , sure isn’t that long, but we’re not quite to crunch time yet. I’ve seen games change within 5 hours of a deadline. We have time. Or do you have better things to be doing?

[Chickadee]

It's weird that there's even a thing for odd numbers of charges, since at the beginning of N3 you'll have 6 anyway.

Meh. Sounds like a town role.

VOTE: Chickadee
If all the general suspects are actually town, Chick is probably scum with someone in the de facto townbloc.

Edit: Suboptimal lynches happen close to the deadline. You really are forgetting Creature's game. I specifically used that to my advantage.

You were scum there and lolhammered me when we were barely into D1



VOTE: Mathdino

[Chickadee]

Correction, set me up to be lolhammered. Sorry. I wanna get it right.

[Chickadee]

Remaining people to check in before we end the day:
The mod
Chickadee
Jurassic Monster
Brandi

Yep. I’m mostly caught up. I e been at work all day, and will be at work another 3-4 hours.

I will say, my role was fairly light on flavor. I use a computer. I’ll be able to paraphrase better when I’m at home later.

[Chickadee]

Alright I'm home.

Without giving away my role, the most I can say is that I'm human, and I'm used to being behind a screen. That's really all the flavor that was in mine. So I'm not necessarily suspicious of people claiming they didn't have much flavor.

And yes, I saw assemble's claim before making my own. I don't find it hard to believe that there could be more than one person who references a computer. I mean it's a pretty standard part of life.

[Chickadee]

Felicity?

Was this directed at me?

If so I am very confused.

[Chickadee]

Ah. Ok, I get it now. I can only dream of becoming Felicity Smoke. She's bae.

[Chickadee]

eevee have you literally ever voted this entire game

No, no the have not.

[Chickadee]

Shameless prodge.

I'm checking in. I'll actually have time tomorrow to get to this.

[Chickadee]

Sorry it was a bad weekend for mafia games. Between teaching a few classes, training for manager, and 11 straight hours of board gaming, I haven’t had time to sit down with this game since day started. I just got home from sunrise yoga and will catch up today.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: WhemeStar

This is a really bad opportunistic vote..

Okay so no one remembers the post of mine that was deleted then? I'm 90% sure it listed my reads on a bunch of people and directed today's lynch if TIAM flips town.

Willing to lynch Jurassic Monster, WhemeStar, Gamma, or Chickadee today.

I do agree that Jurassic Monster is scum. I'd be willing to lynch that slot at some point. And obv. Wheme, given the last page or so.

Okay so no one remembers the post of mine that was deleted then? I'm 90% sure it listed my reads on a bunch of people and directed today's lynch if TIAM flips town.

Willing to lynch Jurassic Monster, WhemeStar, Gamma, or Chickadee today.

Okay let's

VOTE: mathdino

Awful Vote Wheme. You can do better than that.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the lyncher of mine is town and if I die he unlocks an ability

I really want a vote count, because I'm tempted to vote this, but not if it's L-1 or hammer. It's too early for that.

[Chickadee]

At some point? Just lynch Creats now lol

Like, it's Creature, so scum is almost certainly gonna bus here. We can get enough votes easily.

Lynching Creature for free effectively gives Viomi her extra night to charge up.

What are your thoughts on the wheme situation?

[Chickadee]

Viomi, have you played with Creature before?

[Chickadee]

So just once?

[Chickadee]

Because creature is a DEAD giveaway as scum. I feel like if you had played with him more, you'd be down for a Jurassic Monster lynch.

[Chickadee]

Disagree. You have to play with both town Creats and scum Creats to really get it. But he's practically a meme on this site for being the easiest to read.

Well yes, I agree you have to play with both. That was kind of my point. Viomi has essentially played only one game with Creature.

[Chickadee]

Someone lay out why I'm scummy. I'm really feeling likeI don't have much to defend against right now.

[Chickadee]

wtf viomi

You voted me....but have to go stroke your chin awhile about why?



@Math - that's fair. Still nothing I can really defend against, but I can see where you're coming from.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Jurassic Monster

[Chickadee]

In post 985, TywinL wrote:
VOTE: WhemeStar

This is a really bad opportunistic vote..

I have been calling out Wheme for awhile now. tf you mean?

Answer this pls.

Looking back I guess you did. You mentioned him 4 times before your vote here. It just didn't fit in the context of any of the conversation going on around it.

[Chickadee]

Ok creature, none of this was really a question, but I'll do my best to respond to this...

(my responses in pink bold)

In advance, a lot of these posts will look fine by themselves, I highly recommend looking at Chickadee's ISO for how spaced out these posts are between fluff and content-less posts as that's tbh the biggest reason why I think they're scummy.

Ok, I have skimmed the thread. I know the gist of what's going on.

Creature/Momo town
Brandi town
Math town


TIAM's condition being 50% successful makes me think y'all should unvote him, but it also makes me really want to lynch him. It's too wifomy (which auto wants to correct to wifey). Either way, I don't think I'll be voting there today, just because I'm not sure if it makes him happy or not. If it makes him happy, I definitely don't want to do it.

So uh.. Reads Brandi as town for some reason even though Brandi is lurking the fuuuuck out of this game. Townreads Creature/Momo despite him apparently being so easy to read it's a meme. Claims to know the gist of what's going on but doesn't really elaborate on what they think is going on. Not.. a single scumread, for some reason?

this was just my initial reaction to the game. And about Brandi, she had done a big catch up and looked to be trying. Obviously that hasn't been the case since this post.

Ooo another viomi flash wagon.

Ok.

I like all the votes in the first one except Wheme's.
@TIAM, you've been saying over and over that you will not be leashed. Then you naked vote right after this post.

assuming TIAM agrees to a night choice that's not idiotic

then yes

otherwise we just lynch TIAM tbh

we'll probably have to anyway at some point

VOTE: Viomi

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I'll refrain from voting at the moment so people can check in.




Also I work all day tomorrow, so I will have limited access.

These kinds of posts stand out to me because she mentions that there's another flashwagon on me, but doesn't like.. You know, give any opinions on the flashwagon, whether she thinks it's justified or not, if she thinks any of the votes in particular are bad except Wheme's in the first one (and that one has already been called out by like, literally everyone so no brownie points for you!). Just.. Not many posts, and out of those posts there's very little that have any actual content, and pretty much none that have any scumhunting or pushing or.. anything else, tbh?

actually I did address this. In the quoted post. And I don't really care for brownie points, they're not needed.

VOTE: WhemeStar

This is a really bad opportunistic vote..

Okay so no one remembers the post of mine that was deleted then? I'm 90% sure it listed my reads on a bunch of people and directed today's lynch if TIAM flips town.

Willing to lynch Jurassic Monster, WhemeStar, Gamma, or Chickadee today.

I do agree that Jurassic Monster is scum. I'd be willing to lynch that slot at some point. And obv. Wheme, given the last page or so.

Okay so no one remembers the post of mine that was deleted then? I'm 90% sure it listed my reads on a bunch of people and directed today's lynch if TIAM flips town.

Willing to lynch Jurassic Monster, WhemeStar, Gamma, or Chickadee today.

Okay let's

VOTE: mathdino

Awful Vote Wheme. You can do better than that.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the lyncher of mine is town and if I die he unlocks an ability

I really want a vote count, because I'm tempted to vote this, but not if it's L-1 or hammer. It's too early for that.

I'm glad she's calling out TywinL a little at the top and pointing out that Wheme is literally the most anti-town fuck around (besides, clearly, the lurkers) but like... I don't see any serious questions. Just a couple small accusations with no real oomph behind them. Nothing that could really follow-through. Again, not really scumhunting.

and then.. that's pretty much it, those are all her posts that have enough content to quote in my opinion. I don't like people who don't scumhunt, it makes me feel very uncomfortable.

I tend to agree, and I can see why you'd scum read me if this is all you find useful. But it's also not been easy on my end. I came into a slot that was already being scum read. Even still people are saying they want to lynch the wilky slot. And I've had some real life things that have kept me busier than anticipated.

I like the content Creature is coming in and pushing, mostly because it's just -something- from that slot. But it's all just a reaction to pressure.

UNVOTE:

@Creature, where's momo, have you two been communicating at all?

Currently willing to lynch in: wheme, tywin, Evvee, maybe still JM but I want to see how their activity unfolds today

[Chickadee]

Thoughts on Eevee not voting at all?

[Chickadee]

(3) Jurassic Monster

- Mathdino, Gamma Emerald, Chickadee, TywinL, Assemblerowts

At first glance the last two votes look the most opportunistic.

Why?

Getting really sick of people saying that my votes are opportunistic when I have been voicing suspicion for a while and I decide to act on it. And even then, Chick still wants to lynch me lmao.

Thoughts on Eevee not voting at all?

We already talked about this. And now I'm starting to think that Eevee might be town because of this question.

I was asking creature specifically. I know the rest of us have talked about it


And that’s a bizarre thing to town read someone for.

[Chickadee]

Why is nobody willing to vote me wtf

Well, you've been a fairly safe middel-of-the-road kind of player all game. But since you're feeling so neglected...

Brandi, Assemb, Wilky,

I wanna see more posts from you guys or I'm gonna park vote on one of you soon

top lurkspect
VOTE: Wilky

2nd lurkspect
Brandi

3rd lurkspect
assemb

Any updated thoughts on this slots? Reminder, I replaced Wilky.

wilky wasn't really thinking he was playing bad though? cn you tell me where he thought he was? Plus, you don't actually make any conclusions in that post eth0s.

He never said it but he was called out for bad play by a few people including myself. Then eventually just kinda disappeared. Also my first game on this site was a scumteam with wilky so I feel like I can read him well in that respect.

So you think you can read someone off one game with them?

[Chickadee]

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̡̰͓̬̤̰̈ͤͮ̏Ȧ̼͙̤̰̘̬͎̼̫̅̓͆n̛̻̺̳̭̔̓̅͛ͨ̿̐͑͌ͅd̈́ͩ͗ͤ̌͏̷̤̭̜͎́ ̶̞̋ͪ͗ͨ̚͜͞y͑́ͥ̾ͬͫ̊̒̚҉̛̤̩̫͉̬̭͙͡o̸̘̻̔̑ͨ̓ū̟̱͎̪̾̅̍͂͢͝͠ͅ ̶͓̙͖̼͓̅͌͂̿̌̀̚d̵̥̙̦̪͖̻͓̣̀́͑̈͘o̸̰͇̾̍ͩ̎n̟ͦ̉ͩ͌̈ͭ̕'͕̞̟̗͉͎ͬͯ̈́̚̕t̝͙ͧ̄̇̎͜͞ ̎̎̄̑ͩͭ̊҉̲̳͖́s͈̙̭̓̇̊̊̾̋̂̐͡t̆ͪ̅ͤ̎͑͛ͦͥ͏̷̧̙͖̭̭o̴̳͎̪̣̹̿́ṕ̧̜͕̫̒̄̈́̋ͪͪ,̢̛͇̖̺ͦ̑͂̊ͨ̚ ̻̋̔́ͯ͐͆̊̏̍͘y̪͙̫͊ͅoͤ̈̾͂̚ͅú̬̪̖̱͍͌ͭ͛̃̿ ̛̭̂̃̊̕͝k̼̓̐̄ͥ̎̚͘ȩ̖̥͍̰̎̔́ë̡͎̱̂͒ͤp̵̖͚̰̠͇̬̣ͨ͘ ̛̩͕͈̰̖͔̹̾̈́͆͞͞o͉̱̞̺̩ͦͥͫ͛͆͒͐͠ņ̱̥̲̹̭̾͐̓̎̍͐̓ͪ͜ ̡̢̭̠̑͛̈̓̄̇̈̆͌e̝̟̗͚͑̓͒̌͑͢͝a̴͔͖ͮ̌͋͝t̡̟͔̫͇̪̠̥̳́̽͑̎i̡͓͕̼̞ͨ̾̀͒͆̑n̛͔̹̳̦̺̤͊͒ͧͧͣ͐ͮ͢'̵̳̲͚̫͎̪͌͐̐ͯ̏͢͡ ̩̱͎̼̲̝͊ͥ̾̾͢͟c̬̣͈ͫͫ̈́ͯ͝ạ̡̰̩̮̜͎̇͛r̛͍̲̽̓͑̅̑͊̃ͥ͘͘ͅͅs̸̨̼̟̙̞͗ͭͧͤ͑̚ͅ

Has anyone thought about this thing at all that's on the front page?

Not really. It's fairly meme-ish.

I can make out some words:
And then you're in the man from mars
you go out/ at night latin cars
You cat call [something] Lincoln's too
Mercury's and Subaru's
And you don't stop you keep on latin cars




But I don't know that it really has bearing on the game?

[Chickadee]

ethos, eevee, chick, and gamma need to give thoughts on the gamestate
way too much fluff last page

Currently willing to lynch in: wheme, tywin, Evvee, maybe still JM but I want to see how their activity unfolds today

Currently waiting on Ethos to respond to try and interact with him a bit.

[Chickadee]

Ummm yea...we?

[Chickadee]

I really like Eevee's first vote of the game. But I don't like how long it took them to make it.

[Chickadee]

More posts are missing.
1239 is quoting 1241.....

[Chickadee]

I think it's a passive power from someone

What makes you say this?

[Chickadee]

I'm with Math on this. I think it's an active power. If I recall, not even all the posts had votes in them, which seems to be your line of thinking Gamma.

[Chickadee]

I guess so, but shouldn't there be a motive if it's active

Well it's definitely not town motive. There's certainly plenty of scum motive.

I think the best way to combat this is to try to quote as much as possible when replying to people.

Was this post necessary when Dino said pretty much the same thing a post or two before you?

Thoughts on the gamestate:

-

Creature, you need to replace the hydra with yourself. ASAP.

You have confirmably been site active while non-game-active. Disinterest is literally a scumtell for you and you know it.

- Between Vax and Wheme, Vax is clearly the correct lynch.

- Votes on Eevee are policy votes, period. Eevee is absolutely not scum. And "literally not voting all game" is not a scumtell, it's just annoying.

- Votes on Assembler are slightly more acceptable policy votes given that scum do have fakeclaims and a scum role that gets correct info from the mod seems fair.

- I could lynch {Gamma, Vax, Assembler} with a possible addition of JM depending on what happens, because Gamma's take on JM does make sense.

VOTE: Vaxkiller
let's consolidate

Seems like a scum post, ill break it down later tonight.

Yeah so anyway, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE MOST IMPORTANT BOLDED THING ON YOUR LIST: dino is most worried about creatures hydra. Like why? Who cares if he posts as creature or Jurassic
, we all know who it is.

Next, its between Wheme and Vax? Wheme is scum reading me and I'm town reading him, sounds like were likely scum buds! And seriously, you are scumr eading wheme STILL, even after all his thoughts? Wheres the reasoning for me?

Absolute town read on evvee? Why?

I dont get this:

- Votes on Eevee are policy votes, period. Eevee is absolutely not scum. And "literally not voting all game" is not a scumtell, it's just annoying.

- Votes on Assembler are slightly more acceptable policy votes

Like ive been staring at it for a while now and rewriting my thoughts. The best I can explain it is you basically say votes on evve are unacceptable but then move on to assembler and say votes for him are slightly MORE acceptable. The wording is off. Voteing for eevve is unacceptable, but when you talk about assembler, you make it seem like voting for evve is a possibility. I don't like. Maybe im not explaining it well, but I dont like it.

Are you misrepping, or misunderstanding? Math is trying to get Creature invested and involved in the game. Having to post from a hydra where you're the only half posting anyway could definitely be a deterrent. Posting from one's main account is typically easier than switching accounts.

We?

Ummm yea...we?

I still remember the game where I was kept alive specifically for my shit reads.

what did assembler ask about last, night, someone ask him

I asked about Mathdino and I apparently wound up getting his night feedback. Not sure how that happened, but I'll try looking elsewhere tonight and see if I can get more useful data.

Who are the "we" you reference referring to?

I had this same question Assembler. I still don't know why you said "we."




VOTE: Vax
This may change depending on how you respond to this post.

[Chickadee]

Why is Chickadee being scumread for again?

I wish I knew.


Viomi seems to think I'm all fluff. I feel like a lot of other people are still reading me from Wilky's posts.

[Chickadee]

Checking in. I’ve been insanely busy the past few days and continue to be busy today. I will get to this either at some point today or tomorrow.

Please don’t lynch me, I’m not an alien.

[Chickadee]

Math and assemble complimenting each other like this makes me wonder if one of them could be scum. It's just a tinfoil hat theory though.

[Chickadee]

If alignment changes are confirmed to be how the scumteam was put together (and confirmed to have happened sometime today), Creature is confirmed town.

And how exactly does that work?

If you were putting together a hand picked scum team, would you pick Creature?


However I disagree with Dino’s sentiment. Alignment change definitely could have happened. We don’t know that the scum team was hand picked though. It could have veen predetermined people who wouldn’t know until the time came.

Still though, chances of Creature being town is good for now.

[Chickadee]

I think assemble or math should maybe try to figure out tonight? It would help look for associatives

[Chickadee]

The fact that I (confirmably???) asked whether aliens have flavoured safeclaims... that's just a stupid night action for scum to take.

not if you weren't an alien at the time, and didn't know about conversion.

By and large, I feel like we need more information around how scum was picked because looking for associations without knowing more about how this works is hard.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: No Lynch

Viomi, i trust you to do what you think is best with your role.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: No Lynch

Viomi, i trust you to do what you think is best with your role.

is that a scumclaim

wtf...no?


I'm saying use the ability you can use tonight, or wait until tomorrow. I trust which ever you choose. How did you get scum claim out of that?

[Chickadee]

although i'm leaning slightly more to viomi's side in wanting tywin lynched (BLEGH)

might suppport this

Would support this.

But not today

[Chickadee]

Still thinking no lynch is our best play here.

[Chickadee]

wait i did not get the impression that your role could target

what exactly does your role do

and can you confirm that i did in fact ask the mod whether aliens have safeclaims

I thought he already did that...

[Chickadee]

I don't think he'd die from an unfair question. He just doesn't get an answer. That's the way I took it.

[Chickadee]

FUCKING

why

did Dino have to die

he thought of no lynch to get information, and then he WAS the information ;_;

feel better @mod ;/ <3

This seems like a huge overreaction.

[Chickadee]

I’m going to claim right now. I’m 3rd party. My win condition does not end the game, so town can still win with me. If my win condition is met I just disappear. If my win condition is unattainable I become vanilla town.

So for all intents and purposes I have been playing with a town mindset. Please don’t lynch me.

[Chickadee]

For clarity, if I can’t win on my own the only other way to play to my wincon is to play with town.

[Chickadee]

And I suspect Wheme is deleting the posts. I wasn't sure though.

[Chickadee]

I'm really curious why you'd think I get something Wheme? I either go away or become VT. So I don't really like that you've claimed you get something out of this.


VOTE: Wheme

[Chickadee]

I will lynch inside brandi/tywin/ELA if you give me a wheme lynch tomorrow.

And I bet you anything the post deletion stops when he's gone.

[Chickadee]

Fair

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Brandi

This slot has largely been up in the air with posts few and far between. Their reaction to the dino death is exaggerated and fake. This is where I'm most willing to lynch.

[Chickadee]

Interesting, because I am supposed to be looking for the deleted posts.

[Chickadee]

I think so too.

I'm not told who I'm supposed to lynch but Wheme is the only one that makes sense.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Chick I not letting this live

Neither of us are dying until town is in a good position.

[Chickadee]

I have done these things already.

Alright I'm home.

Without giving away my role, the most I can say is that I'm human, and I'm used to being behind a screen. That's really all the flavor that was in mine. So I'm not necessarily suspicious of people claiming they didn't have much flavor.

And yes, I saw assemble's claim before making my own. I don't find it hard to believe that there could be more than one person who references a computer. I mean it's a pretty standard part of life.

I’m going to claim right now. I’m 3rd party. My win condition does not end the game, so town can still win with me. If my win condition is met I just disappear. If my win condition is unattainable I become vanilla town.

So for all intents and purposes I have been playing with a town mindset. Please don’t lynch me.

For clarity, if I can’t win on my own the only other way to play to my wincon is to play with town.

Interesting, because I am supposed to be looking for the deleted posts.

[Chickadee]

The flavor is really really light. Like my whole role PM is 2 lines long. I have a computer and I'm looking for deleted things. I guess I'm a hacker of sorts, looking for evidence.

[Chickadee]

Why Tywin over Brandi?

[Chickadee]

Nice rebuttal.


And I wouldn't say I get two win conditions. Only one can be fulfilled. My main win condition is finding and killing someone. If that win condition is unattainable, I become town and my win condition changes to the town win condition. It's more transformative rather than having two wincons.


PEDIT: Brandi, have you read anything else this day? Neither me nor wheme is dying today.

[Chickadee]

I think Tywin and Brandi are both good lynches. I’m still more inclined to go with Brandi.

[Chickadee]

Brandi and Tywin both need to die. Any reason we're switching over to tywin? Is it just to get Brandi's vote?

[Chickadee]

Ok, I see that. I read that. It still seems kind of like a coin flip though.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: tywin

tomorrow we do brandi, unless something compelling comes up.

[Chickadee]

We pretty much all thought this Tywin was a different player on site Brandi

[Chickadee]

Something needs to happen. This game has gone stale. We need a lynch to go through. Tywin and Brand are still my best bets for scum.

[Chickadee]

Correct. And I believe I may be your lyncher.

[Chickadee]

Because it does nothing to further the town.

[Chickadee]

Wheme can you drop it, either you or I are going anywhere today. Lynch is between Brandi and Tywin.

And I really feel like the game has stalled because everyone is settled there, or needs replaced.

[Chickadee]

Brandi's posting hasn't been great. I particularly dont like her reaction to Dino dying, and already said as much. Tywin's posting hasn't been great either. Now add on top the fact that both of them are lurking. It's not cases made solely on lurking. Look at their ISO's.

They're scum.
Change my mind.

[Chickadee]

Pretty sure viomi is town, so why even bring that up. And why defend Brandi or Tywin?

VOTE: Brandi

Do we even have enough people around to consolidate on a lynch?

[Chickadee]

Zito

You're currently one of the slots being considered for lynch. Sorry. D:

[Chickadee]

Zito

You're currently one of the slots being considered for lynch. Sorry. D:

oh

whyzat

Brandi is my preferred lynch for the day, but for a lot of people you're on the willing to lynch list. Tywin has been a lurker for much of this game, and hasn't had great posts.

When you do read, could you specifically look at Brandi? Her reaction to Math dying is actually really bad, and there's been no real scum hunting from her slot.

@Tywin

come defend yourself? do you care about the town winning? :/

LAMIST.

Also, Brandi is not scum hunting, just looking for lurkers.

VOTE: Brandi

I agree with the sentiment and I have a really hard town read on your slot, but this was a really bad post.

[Chickadee]

I'm a bad poster, Chick. The main issue is she has 43 posts, isn't even trying to scumhunt anymore, just wants to lynch lurkers. Lurking is NAI, it's an easy mislynch.

Plus a Tywin no result seems to indicate he has no feedback at night. Maybe a scummy VT? I don't know.

I can sympathize with that. I have many of my own bad posting moments.

Can you give me some thoughts on Brandi and Tywin slots aside from lurking?

[Chickadee]

Anyone have thoughts on the third scum we need to find? My thinking is that ethos had the choice between one two and three factions. So there must be at least three more scum out there.

[Chickadee]

Anyone have thoughts on the third scum we need to find? My thinking is that ethos had the choice between one two and three factions. So there must be at least three more scum out there.

I have an alternate theory. Since hiding my PR is totally off the table anyway. My rolecard also tells me my win condition cannot be changed.

Which, to me, implies that someone can change a win condition. I think the Aliens could have someone who marked up to three people to become alien spies.

But, we don't know if the invasion was ever started.

I’m gonna need you to go read the ethos flip

[Chickadee]

Aren't you two the lyncher/lynchee?
Tbh im starting to think ur lynchers of each other.

Thats what I've bene thinking.

[Chickadee]

HEY GUESS WHAT WHEME, I'VE CLAIMED AND COULD POTENTIALLY BE TOWN AT SOME POINT AND YOU'RE HUNG UP ON LYNCHING ME INSTEAD OF GETTING TOWN TO A BETTER POSITION.

Stop. Neither of us is dying today. Get over it. It benefits town none to help either of us resolve our winton at this point.

[Chickadee]

I'm inclined to believe this. I find it a little strange that in a game where lurkers are being scum read, Chick had a hard Town Read on Assemble

You should ISO your predecessor.

And people are not being scum read solely for lurking its lurking plus other bad behavior and posts.


And wheme, I'm looking for someone (presumably you) and my PM says someone is also looking for me. So yea, I do have reason to think it. And you talk about me playing anti town. I'm not. As gamma said, I'm playing to my wincon, but also have a town sub motive. I've been pretty clear about that today. I am trying to help get the town to a better place, while you are not, so what makes you think town will be inclined to listen to you? Hell, even scum have motive to make me town and take you out, if you can just find out who is "hiding the truth" each night. But no, you're staying focused on me, when it's been made clear by Gamma, as well as myself, that neither you nor I will be dying today.

@Gamma, are you also claiming some sort of lie detector, or are you wanting wheme to check me again? I don't mind stating, I just want to know your intention, because I don't think it would help for Wheme to check me again. From what he says I think he targets people, not specific lines.

[Chickadee]

lol guys

I deleted the posts. But my claim is 100% true aside from that. I do become town if my wincon becomes unachievable. After a while I started deleting things that were quoted, so that things weren't truly lost. And it was honestly just for the lols because math got so riled up.

Be honest, if you had a role that let you do the super bad thing that is forbidden from every game ever, would you just not use it? I tried to use it responsibly.

Wheme, I don't wanna hear it. I'm still not dying today, because it does nothing to help town numbers.

[Chickadee]

[Chickadee]

[Chickadee]

Well thanks but now I have no direction for my role, shoot.

Well, I didn't want you to waste it.



And Wheme, presumably, you have to kill me or something. My pm says to watch out for you.

[Chickadee]

Not specific you, but just someone looking for me.

[Chickadee]

your just spewing out more bs like you have before

No you are.

I have been really transparent about my role.

[Chickadee]

Wheme just admit that your wincon is to lynch me.

[Chickadee]

Also the posts aren't even deleted they are posts that target certain people

They ARE deleted though.


And honestly, I just scrolled through pages and clicked the Q+ button on a few posts at a time, in areas where things were frequently quoted.

[Chickadee]

@zito how is the catch up going?

[Chickadee]

I would be fine with Creature or Brandi. I’m more inclined to go Brandi though. I’m a bit more confident there. I’m also still mildly interested in the zito slot but I want to see what zito contributes first.

[Chickadee]

I'm kinda convinced they are lynchers on each other.
Chickadee what happens to u if ur targets lynched?

If my target is lynched, I win and just leave the game.

It does not help town numbers at all to kill either of us today.

[Chickadee]

Yes but Zito, I have the chance of becoming town. I volunteered to be investigated by viomi because the gist I got was her cop-vig thing would kill aliens, and I am not an alien.

I'm honestly surprised you're taking this route given that it doesn't help town at all.

[Chickadee]

I'm kinda convinced they are lynchers on each other.
Chickadee what happens to u if ur targets lynched?

Explain 2 things

How did I know Chick was deleting the posts
Why didn't she claim lynchee

I am not explicitly told that I am a lynchee. I am just told to watch out because someone is looking for me. I've said this many times.




@zito, I dont know how to prove it without knowing themes actual wincon. I guess if he were dayvigged right now, that could prove it, as I would have nothing to do with the kill.

[Chickadee]

8. At most, there are 2 unique win conditions whose fulfillment ends the game.

Town wincon.
Scum wincon.



My wincon does not end the game.

[Chickadee]

Zito please explain how killing me helps town numbers?

[Chickadee]

If I came out and said "oh yea that's me" of course you'd lynch me.

I think I've shown some good faith here in coming clean so that Gamma doesn't waste a lie detect on me. And I did try to delete things that had been quoted.

And honestly, I got a roll that let me do the super bad always forbidden thing. Come on. I had to.

[Chickadee]

And post #0 practically backs up part of my claim, that my wincon does not endgame. I quoted it.


I think zito is scum guys.

[Chickadee]

Tywin, an already scummy slot. But I think zit's push on me is bad, and particularly do not like how he addressed my recent question with a question of his own.

[Chickadee]

Tywin, an already scummy slot.

Tywin is kinda a Vi so he's gonna be scummy and derpy as town. I don't think there's much difference between his scum and town games and maybe he's not a Vi and just intentionally nerfs his town game so he can play poorly as scum.

unvote

time to start being serious

Dont make the mistake of thinking it was the tywin a lot of us did. It's a different user.

[Chickadee]

On the one hand, they didn't vote for like 2 whole day phases or some shit. It seems like they could have been worried about voting a scum partner. But I dont have much else on them.

[Chickadee]

Math, stop avoiding this game plox

Math is dead.

[Chickadee]

I’m fine with lynching Brandi Nero or zito.

[Chickadee]

I've asked Snarky for some clarification on something. I'm waiting on the answer before weighing in on anything.

[Chickadee]

I am not alien. I am human. I really want to wait for Snarky to respond to me. Depending on the answer I get, I am willing to make a statement for Gamma to check. I cannot make said statement at the moment, because at this point in time, I don't know if it would be factual.

[Chickadee]

I am not alien. I am human. I really want to wait for Snarky to respond to me. Depending on the answer I get, I am willing to make a statement for Gamma to check. I cannot make said statement at the moment, because at this point in time, I don't know if it would be factual.

Why do you really care since ur lynchee might get lynched today.....?

Don't get me wrong, if a wheme wagon grows, I will be on it.

But my role pm is very vague about what wheme has to do, but does imply some things. So I want clarification on something, because I might be town at the end of this day phase whether or not wheme is lynched, assuming wheme is telling the truth and is not out to lynch me. Hence clarification needed. Can you just please let me wait and get clarification on the question I already asked the mod?

[Chickadee]

"Role and Allignment Assignments are random"

So everything that has to deal with choosing roles or choosing allignment is random

Ok but what about this, which is also in the same post you referenced:

2. Mid-game alignment changes are possible, but very limited.

[Chickadee]

So it's not impossible. You contradict yourself.

[Chickadee]

It's way more likely that's referring to the alien mechanic.

Yes, what I'm referring to is the aliens being converted after ethos death.

[Chickadee]

That as well.

[Chickadee]

Alright, I've gotten clarification from Snarky. And I am already town. In a separate post, I will make a statement clearly stating such for Gamma.

[Chickadee]

My alignment has changed, and I am now Vanilla Town.

[Chickadee]

I am vanilla town.

[Chickadee]

I'm town you idiot.

I checked in with snarky. He forgot to inform me of the change. I made two clear statements for gamma to choose from to check me. Alternatively Viomi can check me.

Get rekt.

[Chickadee]

If I do get lynched today, in this order, lynch the following:

Brandi
Zito
Nero


I'm already voting brandi, and don't intend on changing my vote.

[Chickadee]

I figured there was more to wheme's role, because I hadn't been notified. But Snarky sorted things on whemes end and forgot to notify me. So when I asked for clarification on wether or not I could still win, he told me I am now VT.

[Chickadee]

I mean I did tell y'all there was a mechanism for me to turn town.

[Chickadee]

Omg wheme it’s like you don’t even read my posts. I said I leave the game if I lynch you. I become vanilla town if you die and I’m not involved in killing you. Stop twisting my words. I will be sorted tonight. Get off my case.


@zito wheme found me and can confirm that snarky took care of things on his end. I was supposed to receive a new role pm, which he forgot to do. That’s why I thought there was more involved with wheme’s Role.



VOTE: Nero Cain

[Chickadee]

Oh, did you receive my role pm wheme? Do you know all the aspects of my role? Didn’t think so. You know I can be sorted tonight so stop pushing. Why would I admit to deleting stuff earlier and then state something so blatantly clear for gamma to check tonight?


Yes gamma I became vanilla because wheme found me.

[Chickadee]

At this point I kind of want to die just so y'all can see my flip and know I wasn't lying... -_-

[Chickadee]

Gamma is clearing me.

[Chickadee]

Omg wheme it’s like you don’t even read my posts. I said I leave the game if I lynch you. I become vanilla town

if you die and I’m not involved in killing you

. Stop twisting my words.

I will be sorted tonight.

Get off my case.

what does this mean?
he's not dead?
by "sorted out tonight"
do u mean hes going to die tonight and somehow ur preemptively town now, is his death somehow now confirmed and the change made????? WHAT??


also fuck mod hasn't given a votecount yet :I

You come back and this is your only thought?


I’ll answer it anyway. I mean if he were killed by scum or dayvigged. In those instances I would not have anything to do with his death. I have no clue if he dies tonight. It doesn’t matter to me because I’m already town. It happened when he found me. I no longer benefit from wheme dying.

And by sorted I mean I made statements for gamma to check and clear me tonight.

[Chickadee]

Omg wheme it’s like you don’t even read my posts. I said I leave the game if I lynch you. I become vanilla town

if you die and I’m not involved in killing you

. Stop twisting my words.

I will be sorted tonight.

Get off my case.

what does this mean?
he's not dead?
by "sorted out tonight"
do u mean hes going to die tonight and somehow ur preemptively town now, is his death somehow now confirmed and the change made????? WHAT??


also fuck mod hasn't given a votecount yet :I

You come back and this is your only thought?


I’ll answer it anyway. I mean if he were killed by scum or dayvigged. In those instances I would not have anything to do with his death. I have no clue if he dies tonight. It doesn’t matter to me because I’m already town. It happened when he found me. I no longer benefit from wheme dying.

And by sorted I mean I made statements for gamma to check and clear me tonight.

But you didnt seem to push wheme ever not even after u claimed.

Yea, it would have worked out really well for me to push the claimed lynchee.

And I've said multiple times, I was not told who I was supposed to kill. My role pm just says someone is looking for me, kill them first. IT. DOES. NOT. SAY. WHO.


And after I claimed, I realized it was better to help get town into better numbers, as I can win with town instead of as 3p.

[Chickadee]

This whole game has become very frustrating for me. Either lynch me, or don't. I can be confirmed town tomorrow, or I can be dead town today. But I'm done restating myself. I've poured over my role several times.


PEDIT: I DONT HAVE A FUCKING KILL ACTION
Hence all the talk of being on the freaking lynch vs not being involved in his death.

omg

[Chickadee]

I WAS NOT TOLD WHO I HAD TO KILL

FURTHERMORE TOWN HAD NO REASON TO CARE ABOUT ME ACHIEVING MY WINCON ONCE I WAS OUTTED.

[Chickadee]

In a game called Bad Idea Mafia, I'm supposed to assume it's that straight forward?

[Chickadee]

Brandi
Zito
Nero


Kill these when I'm gone.

[Chickadee]

Thank god. I really wanna see the dead thread.

And I wasn't lying, so remember my list.

[Chickadee]

Since I hadn't been informed of the change in role, I thought I could still win my 3p wincon by the end of that day phase. That's what I had asked snarky about for clarification. Had I been informed, there wouldn't have been so much back and forth about my role.

Sorry I was so confusing.

[Chickadee]

chickadee you're not playing under canadian post restriction anymore

you have no obligation to be sorry for not being informed of your win condition

Ope. Sorry, eh.

[Chickadee]

Except for the fact we're not authorized to see it haha