Open 712: Elemental Large (Mafia win)

[Almost50]

I want to lynch doom or TGP. That DOES help, you know, and in more than one way. We will be helping ourselves move the game, and helping the mod by needing one less replace-on, but -most of all- helping the town win con by actually flipping SCUM.

[JaydragonKing]

Alright then. Paradox was gone for longer and his exit was super shitty, so I can definitely interpret it as scum. I'm up for any other options suggested though.

VOTE: Paradox slot

Seriously guys, there are sixteen slots here. Atleast half of us should be talking.

[Kopherald]

Lynching one of the slots that left is the optimal play, both were being scum read pretty universally.

I still think TGP who asked to be replaced out 4 days ago, should be the lynch. For good measure, because I'm not positive we are voting.
VOTE: Paradox slot

-Brass

[davesaz]

Please welcome Flavor Leaf who replaces TheGoldenParadox.

[davesaz]

Prodding Ausuka and Creature.

[davesaz]

Please welcome Mathdino, replacing doomfeathers!

Official Vote Count 1.9

Flavor Leaf (4) - Kopherald, Almost50, texcat, JaydragonKing
Almost50 (3) - Mathdino, Flavor Leaf, Lalendra
JaydragonKing (2) - Taly, Aneninen
Kopherald (1) - havingfitz
Sando (1) - Creature
Shadpearl (1) - Sando

Not Voting (4) - JimmyUrineMoneyShot, Shadpearl, Ausuka, profii

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

(expired on 2018-03-19 22:00:00)

[JaydragonKing]

... Oh fuck. Oh double fuck.

Damnit Almost you summoned Dino here somehow by speaking his name I just know it.

[Mathdino]

i've been caught up for a while, gimme a bit to finish my video game

[Mathdino]

tl;dr

Paradox --> Jay

a50/creature town

everyone else i didn't pay attention to

[Mathdino]

Right okay here.

So I'm here cuz davesaz asked nicely when we all signed up for 716.

Caught up in the game, saw Paradox was fkin obvscum in basically every way possible, saw there were actually two slots, waited til the second was free.

I would assume the reason Boonskiies took this slot after it was open for so long is because he's good at scum. He can correct me if I'm wrong postgame.
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I don't think I really need to make a case on Paradox but I can do a quick quotewall of "posts that made me want to lynch it with fire".

Also everyone that ever voted A50 should be dragged through the mud either ingame or postgame. My predecessor included.

[Mathdino]

You say A50 is a stronger scumread than doom, and yet you're still voting doom?

FoS Taly

Someone else pointed this shit out, I hard-agree. This is in no way a good reason to scumread someone. No nuanced thoughts.

Here what I'm getting is a lot of people jumping on me at once, which seems extremely opportunistic.

This is literally how scum-Creature defends himself.

I sincerely apologize to you guys, I know it hurts town for me to replace out. I feel really bad. It's totally my fault that I overgamed myself.

After the 2 posts where he talked about how he was losing motivation, he makes a 3rd post basically townclaiming.

It's LAMISTing as a means to not completely fuck over his slot.

Anyway we're policy lynching Jay tomorrow and just looking at the votecount, I need to take a look at Lalendra. Generally echoing Creature's sentiment of "what the fuck is this game and why is no one town". A50 really didn't need to claim there.

[Flavor Leaf]

I completely came into this game expecting to be scum with the Dino slot.

Guys, don’t lynch me. I’m likely one of the doctors.

[Flavor Leaf]

Actually, I’m going to straight up claim. I’m one of the doctors.

[JaydragonKing]

And Dino Instantly goes and digs me into a massive hole. I feel like that was a garuntee when I saw his name. Well time to actually try now, since my current "do little to not get Policy Lynched" strategy is off the table.

Still will need more people here btw. This is getting close to the homestretch of day one. More input is always nice.

--- P-edit ---

... "Likely one of the doctors"... And you don't know because???

I'm much different then our last encounter together so I know this is shitty and I am not getting fooled twice, Leaf.

--- P-edit ---

God damnit.

Two, count em, TWO doctor claims day fucking one.

[Flavor Leaf]

Texcat and Dino are scum. Where should we go first?

[Mathdino]

Almost50 (6) - doomfeathers, Sando, TheGoldenParadox, Shadpearl, Lalendra, texcat
TheGoldenParadox (5) - JaydragonKing, Kopherald, Ausuka, Creature, Taly
Shadpearl (1) - havingfitz
doomfeathers (1) - Almost50
Lalendra (1) - Aneninen
Aneninen (1) - profii

I will completely lose hope in this site if everyone on the A50 wagon was town. Scum would hammer that shit. Plus it's HIGHLY likely A50 was wagoned in retaliation for voting Paradox.

A50-Wagon-Scumpool: {Sando, Shadpearl, Lalendra, texcat}

Quick review shows {Sando, Shadpearl, Lalendra} were ALSO on the Creature wagon, so

TheGoldenParadox (7) - JaydragonKing, Kopherald, Ausuka, Creature, Taly, Almost50, texcat
Almost50 (4) - doomfeathers, Sando, TheGoldenParadox, Lalendra
Shadpearl (1) - havingfitz
doomfeathers (1) - Aneninen
Aneninen (1) - profii

Not Voting (2) - JimmyUrineMoneyShot, Shadpearl

And Paradox doesn't get to the brink of a lynch without getting bussed.

Paradox-Wagon-Scumpool: {Jay, Kopherald, Ausuka, Taly, texcat}

Shadpearl bouncing off the bad optics A50 wagon without revoting is questionable.

ISOing everyone in these pools.

fitz is a non-presence and Aneninen is non-readable.

Jimmy is town by VCA but fucking lol at him SK-hunting Creature.

creature get back here and give me a townpool to sheep this is fucking ridiculous

[Mathdino]

Actually, I’m going to straight up claim. I’m one of the doctors.

Scum optimal strategy is to claim doctor and I STRONGLY disbelieve that Paradox would replace out of a TPR slot.

[Mathdino]

sando's ISO makes me want to beat my head against a wall but the twisty pretzel logic is town

[Mathdino]

shadpearl's ISO is pure cringe

either hardtown or scum hardfaking newbtown

@Shadpearl:

Do you have any links of you playing forum mafia offsite?

nothing in lalendra's ISO suggests town
but then again nothing in lalendra's entire career suggests town

is anyone here actually capable of gutreading lalendra

[Mathdino]

VOTE: Almost

Spit on me anyway.

jay what the actual fuck is this vote

[JaydragonKing]

Maybe he confused the time Paradox was at seven with his own six?

No. There was a time when we were both tied at 7 votes and I was waiting for someone to put me @L-1 to hammer myself and spit it in a few people's faces... y'know (Not yours though as you weren't voting me)

A cheeky response to this.

[Sando]

sando's ISO makes me want to beat my head against a wall but the twisty pretzel logic is town

Wanna actual provide some, you know, logic, for this statement?

The amount of anti-A50 wagon without actually addressing anything strikes me as fairly telling for later in the game.

[Almost50]

Actually, I’m going to straight up claim. I’m one of the doctors.

Yeah, right. And I'm the queen of Denmark!

[Flavor Leaf]

Actually, I’m going to straight up claim. I’m one of the doctors.

Scum optimal strategy is to claim doctor and I STRONGLY disbelieve that Paradox would replace out of a TPR slot.

Scum optimal strategy isn’t Boonskiies optimal strategy.

Had I been actual scum, I’d be claiming tracker right now. I had my whole plan setup when I came into this game.

I thought Dino was gonna be my scum buddy.

Then I get that elemental doctor thing.

I dont play open games normally.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Tracker - don’t claim, obvi, target me tonight. I guarantee you will see me target somewhere.

This confirms me as town, and if I don’t go anywhere, it confirms me as scum. Also, this adds the chance that I can die in the night thus getting rid of the problem all together.