Mini 1991: Taking Justice Into Our Own Hands (Town Win)

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5 pages while im asleep ok

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awoo is probably town though

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not a fan of lexa tbh

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Thats a pretty spicy revelation

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rb, why are you townreading awoo?

hes got dat town swagger

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Town: awoo

Scum: lexa

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7pages already

pls

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pretty sure i did just that

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VOTE: Cedrick

lexa's speedwagon makes me iffy actually

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"speedwagon"?

wagon move very fast got many vote quick speed !!!!

Oh wait for some reason i thought lexa had 5 votes already and mine would be L-1 vote. what happens

well i want cedrick anyway

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Why are you defending another slot Cedrick?

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Watch me now

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EBWOP: disregard my last re: post timing, thought you were referring to a different post

As for voting reasons, they are what I said. You entered the game by jumping on a wagon without any game advancing content. That gets a vote everytime.

My defense is faltering! Grasps for straws, ensign!

So me and Alex did the same thing. Why not vote him. It gets a vote everytime.

"why me" defence, mumbles scumlean

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Of being made the leading wagon?

See, this is basic psychology, something that I said or did struck a nerve. I'm inclined to think it was me voting you and making you the leading wagon. It's why you didn't really react strongly to NSG or rb, but you did to me.

I've got to do the dishes. Be back soon. Much love, Lexa.

oh more "why me" defence

we can lynch mumbles anytime

(yes im backreading the thread in reverse chronological order)

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@northsidesegal I don't think I understand the position where your vote on me is coming from so I'm going to ignore that for now

What are your thoughts on users: fitz and riggs, specifically the vote to content pattern of the former and the tone of post #26 for the latter

scum caught for wrong reason, trying to be cooperative

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How is the age of an account important

Lots of people are new and good, lots of people are veterans and awful. bad metric never use

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sure, except its self-oriented in both cases.

not figuring out the game, but instead trying to manage self-appearance

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VOTE: MUMBLES

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No its towards you.

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why does the age of his account matter?

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im going to bed in 3 minutes

pls respond

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do you like daggers?

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i dont make associations on day1, i just read players as they are. i really dont care if something is TvS/TvT or whatever at this stage

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read the last paragraph of 182 and first imagine that someone you know is a veteran player who's played multiple games before said it, and then imagine that a relatively newer player said it. isn't there a very different outcome depending on which angle you look at it from?

i'm deliberately being obtuse here because i'd rather not say what i'm looking for until cedrick answers.

it really isnt relevant because he could be a shit or a good player regardless of how long hes played

mafia skill is relatively static because it relies a lot on individual personality and thinking patterns, moreso than experience which just helps you understand mechanics or meta people.

its honestly irrelevant and i think this will turn out to be useless, and im finding your scumhunting weak and i wanna lynch you toOOOOooooOooo

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if i was a dayvig i could win this game in one dayphase tbh

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you're not looking hard enough or you're deliberately ignoring what's there.

awoo, seeing what i'm seeing?

what youre seeing is most likely a false positive and not related to how long someones been on the site

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DAYVIG: NORTHSIDEGAL

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in the meantime feel free to do any actual scumhunting

is this one of those games where i find allthescum on day1

i found allthescum didnt i

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Luca Blight is townlean

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it really isnt relevant because he could be a shit or a good player regardless of how long hes played

mafia skill is relatively static because it relies a lot on individual personality and thinking patterns, moreso than experience which just helps you understand mechanics or meta people.

its honestly irrelevant and i think this will turn out to be useless, and im finding your scumhunting weak and i wanna lynch you toOOOOooooOooo

why assume that whatever i'm talking about has something to do with skill and not something to do with mechanics?

even more impotent scumhunting then

let me know when you get to the part of actually playing the game, because ur avi is cute and i dont wanna have to lynch u just yet

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does that mean youlll actually look for scum now?

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im going to bedDdDDDdDd

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Also Cedricks main account will be at least a few months old (over 6) because hes thrown out about half a dozen mafiascum buzzwords in seamless conversational tone, with the right context and application.

hes not new to mafiascum at all

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not sure why people purport to know what is and isn't relevant when they don't even know what i'm talking about, but it gets me slightly, perhaps irrationally angry.

So explain it.

This seems an absurd reaction to the chain of events, and since Cedrick is denying any revealing how old his account is, you can just say what you were going for.

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The reason i was citing was entirely game relevant. i was asking about your experience level to determine if the comment came from genuine inexperience or a fake attempt at a townslip.

Why is it a fake townslip and not a real one, do experienced players not make mistakes?

This is awful lol

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The strangest looking vote to me on my wagon would be Awoo.

Why is it strange?

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What's everyone's thoughts on Luca Blight?

Apart from being a pretty good villain in Suikoden 2.

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Typical mafia game in Australian timezone: wake up to 5 pages of game before work, 5 more pages while AT work, finish work, read, post - everyone's gone.

Well i'm townlean on Luca Blight anyway, but I'm curious what other people think.

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What's everyone's thoughts on Luca Blight?

Why are you asking for thoughts on Luca over anyone else in the game?

My thoughts: They seem town. Not a lot to work with...only 4 posts, but a slight tr atm.

I'm moving from slot to slot until I'm satisfied with either my read on it, or that I'll need more content before I can sort them.

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Awoo

Luca Blight
Cedrick

Lexa
Northsidegal

Mumbles

Leaning town on Cedrick at this point, I think Mumbles is scum and I think Lexa/North are likely but still thinking. If I had to lynch in succession I'd lynch Mumbles/Lexa/North

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What 180?

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So my thoughts on the whole Lexa thing -

She likes Awoo's case on numberQ, votes for numberQ, but then shortly after abandons that endeavour in a kneejerk reaction to Mumble's vote? When I was initially skimming, I figured dropping a vote on Lexa right after Mumble would be good for a laugh and to see how she reacts to more pressure. Don't really like the 1v1 between Mumble and Lexa. I don't understand the anger there on Lexa's part, but then I don't really have any meta to go on with her. Maybe worth checking out some of her old games. But I don't like 123, trying to dismiss pressure I generally find to come from scum more than town IMO. And I don't like the 163 jump from Mumble to me. As Awoo mentioned it does appear like Lexa comes across as being cornered into that vote. I don't really like leaving Mumble with the reason that scum wouldn't be so obtuse. Sounds like a phony excuse to get out of a vote that you regret. And moving to someone that's basically inactive doesn't seem to serve much purpose.

I just dislike that Lexa appears to have viewed the most scummy thing in the game to that point as being a few empty votes and it makes me think she had no real reads or nothing to gon before. Granted its early still but I felt more relevant things happened than Mumble and I voting her. And the way she reacted to the votes is pretty bad. I'm keen to see how she responds to her wagon though.

I feel like Mumble vs Lexa is TvS, so the current wagons are interesting.

Why is Mumble vs Lexa TvS, and not say, TvT?

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@Cedrick - my vote on you at the time was more just not really feeling the Lexa wagon, and you were the only other player I'd been suspicious of, since I hadn't really paid much attention to many players yet. I moved the vote pretty soon after once I found a better scumread.

I'm not entirely sold on you town but I think there's multiple other players more likely to flip scum, which at the time I vote you that wasn't the case.

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Yeah if I'm sparse it's because I'm working a lot lately and I really just have no energy to read and analyze.

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Zito you rolled scum didn't you

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Luca Blight and Havo with no vote down.

Pls play the game friends

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ill dayvig u if u dont obvtown!!!!!

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I like that case, and I'll hammer anyone of Mumble/numberQ/Lexa right now

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wait why does someone's reads make you think theyre not scum?

scum can have 'good reads' and town can have bad reads. this seems bad to me

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I dont quite understand how no vote is better but anyway

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Y tho

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so anyway i'm working 7 days in a row this week and i've so far worked 32 hours in 3 days, i cbf really giving detailed thoughts but i'm not a fan of this replace in and still willing to hammer anywhere from lexa/mumbles/numberq (now eddie cane)

zito's a question mark, probably just lazy town tho and i don't agree on cedrick read

northsidegal i'd hammer too

bye4now

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hmm

VOTE: northsidegal

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I really don't know what to make of these claims. They make 0 sense for either alignment. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

doctor and watcher can both be scum

im too tired to read this game properly

but im pretty sure northside is scum

thanks 4 reading

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Derrick just seems like dumbtown to me

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Id rather do northsidegal

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im townreading this post

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I didn't say he wasn't a good alternative; I said there is no 'clear' alternative, as in a lot of players are currently undecided on what to do next.

I'm generally fine with a Fitz lynch; I disagree with his stance and think he's a decent bet for scum, although I'm not convinced he would be quite so brash as scum on D1. This is what's giving me pause on Fitz.

and after this post

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VOTE: guy_named_riggs hi )

Awoo moves his vote here

Awoo you're scum aren't you

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northsidegal has been prodded

bad

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eff

VOTE: riggs

What would a lurker lynch do for us?

Also why didn’t you mention fitz in your write up? I’d love to hear detail thoughts on him. If you town read him I’d really love to hear how you spin his actions in a town light.

okay i need to know your real account now because i must figure out if being this dumbtown is a possibility i believe in

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only my lack of esteem for your ability keeps me from thinking you're scum at this point Cedrick.

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don't do this to me

LOL

VOTE: Cedrick

im sry papa

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i can unvote and you can vote and be first on the wagon if you want

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I also challenge the people who town read mumble to explain what he’s done that’s protown. Cause I don’t see anything in his iso.

He hasn't done anything protown, he hasn't done anything that I view as scummy either. Town read on him is gut and I can see his aggression being town aggression. To be fair I can see his play coming from both alignments. Except for his claim. His claim makes no sense from any alignment.

im townreading alex for this post

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oh good alex is town

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if cedrick is scum papa zito is locktown4me

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pls forgive me papi Z

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all people with Z's in their name will not be lynched

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yeah derpy is much better cmon

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yeah, you're Cedrick

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So Awoo why did you stop tunneling eddie cane?

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See i actually liked awoo as town but now i'm beginning to doubt

But I'm pretty sure papa zito and alexcellent are town so i can live with this tradeoff

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why are you so obsessed with mumble tho

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lexa does it at all bother you that your top2 townreads (papa zito and alex) are on a wagon you think is terrible (cedrick)?

because they're my top2 townreads and i think this wagon is good, but your perspective doesn't make sense really since you're not engaging the players who're your top2 reads to try and get them to sync up with you? like wot

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apart from her being fake activity scum?

idk, she hasn't posted like...anything that's really gamesolving and the only thing she sort of remotely had was just so weak. not town

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the whole thing about 'waiting for answers' is just pointless fluff

she's barely even given opinions or tried to sort anyone, just asks meandering questions and then meanders about the answers

then goes low activity once all pressure on her is gone. she stayed active for as long as it took to not be a viable lynch for the day, then she decided to be inactive and stop scumhunting

s c u m

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oh wait you're scum together aren't you

:ddddd

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fucking

what's this GNR wagon for anyway

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i need a nap

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So Awoo why did you stop tunneling eddie cane?

See i actually liked awoo as town but now i'm beginning to doubt

But I'm pretty sure papa zito and alexcellent are town so i can live with this tradeoff

... not tunnelling me makes you doubt he's town?

he had a line of reasoning, it was believable - i actually liked it and this sudden 180 that happens right after someone accuses them of basically tunneling? it's wtf to me

abandoned their strongest read, with no explanation, seemingly at the first sign of serious dissent over their direction in the game. it's a huge change of behaviour where before awoo was cocky and talkative, backed up their ideas with reasoning (whether you agreed or not, you can't deny they had thoughts behind their play) and now it's kinda just gone flat.

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and yeah, i still have doubts about you eddie and maybe i just liked that awoo's reads were syncing up with mine at the time, but i don't think so (lexa/numberq scum, cedrick town)

honestly if not for the claims i'd have lynched mumble and lexa one after the other gladly

i'm still tempted to just fucking lynch through the claims lmao

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i had a shadow vote on you/lexa/mumble

it's not that tunneling is better, stop being fucking obtuse

it's the way he gives up on his read that's bad

you're not this dumb as town eddie

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like town!eddie understands what i'm talking about here

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it's the way he gives up on his read that's bad

no, it is disappearing from the game a bit after i subbed in that's bad. if he's scum, his push got squashed by a strong player who wasn't going to get mislynched subbing in. it's disengaging from the game that's bad.

you're not this dumb as town radiantbowcells

same thing dude...

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you're so overly obsessed with semantics in a way i've never seen before

some1 pls vig/cop eddie cane thank

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the vast majority of the pressure is from Zito and Fitz?

Hmm. So is that the team? You/Zito/fitz?

Interesting. I’ll sleep on that one.

I can't

robbvna plays mafia - the experience

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you're so overly obsessed with semantics in a way i've never seen before

some1 pls vig/cop eddie cane thank

FUCKING CHRIST

someone being scummy does not make every reason on them valid, when did you get this shit at mafia? you said he was scummy for not tunnelling me. that isn't the same thing remotely...

Except that's not what I said?

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Yes, breaking off tunnelling in of itself can't be deemed scummy, but the circumstances that surround it (not choosing to push your wagon when the chance was there following the pr claims as I said) kind of make it so, as it no longer feels like a genuine scumread. I thought this was so obvious it basically went without saying, but you seemed to deliberately miss rb's point.

okay im not going insane lol

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But it's quite true, no?

Sometimes people act or play in ways that are truly hard to read, and saying that you're gut reading someone through their weird play doesn't seem fence-sitty so much as it feels like honesty.

I have null reads too, or people I can't quite get a handle on and I often 'chunk' the playerlist down to people whose behaviour I feel I can read (as either town or scum) and players I can't - and I don't talk much of the ones I can't until I have to, and I hope others with a different perspective can read that particular player better than me.

Some people talk about ALL slots though, and those that do will naturally seem less confident, because they're talking more about hard to read slots.

I often come across as really confident, but that's a symptom of the fact that I talk only about the slots I'm more confident reading while I let other slots 'evolve' internally.

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cedrick/nsg/lexa

Ive decided thst oddnight watcher is pretty shit anyway even if lexa flips town

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Im willing to lynch havo/awoo as compromise

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VOTE: Lexa

L-1 lets goooo

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someone hammer lexa

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minus havo im actually at worst townleaning on that whole wagon

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minus havo im actually at worst townleaning on that whole wagon

um lol, i thought lexa flipped town

time to rethink my thinks

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minus havo im actually at worst townleaning on that whole wagon

um lol, i thought lexa flipped town

time to rethink my thinks

how is this possible ?

the flip wasn't even in a spoiler, it's big red letters o.o

been busy at work, hadnt even checked this thread until the day restarted, saw green at the bottom (which was actually mumble being NK'd) lol

still busy, catching up with friends today and have a wedding engagement party tomorrow.

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that's a weird thing to think about, I'm always excited af for a flip like I sit there reloading waiting for it

im in 3 games and have been working 60 hour weeks, i dont have the luxury of sitting here waiting for flips

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okay well

i appreciate that cause i currently work 50ish hours a week and was working 70 a month or so ago

but you need to do shit, you're another player that can powertown

there's too many sketchy slots itg, make yourself not one of them. a day 1 scum lynch isn't your excuse to coast.

But it is

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ez game

VOTE: eddie cane

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also im the best player in this game thanks

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the big 'its not about bussing' talk honestly made me think he was actually just scum that's bussing

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lol mulch

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how dirty are ur hands mulch

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all eddie posts after the guilty was announced didnt happen, just incase anyone is wondering

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pooface pls go

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Hows the car repair going eddie?

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so ur having fun while apparently crying about being 'harassed'

ur a bit of a loser

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Hows the car repair going eddie?

really bad, I hit a curb going 60 idr if i said that. tire's fucked, rim's fucked, those plastic covers came out from above the tires, there's a metal grate sticking down, i literally broke the fucking washer fluid motor i hit it so hard i didn't know that was possible, oh and the alignment is fucked

Wow shit, ur lucky to be undead

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as a skeleton i know a thing or two about being undead

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meanwhile my car needs servicing

does ur friend operate in the australia area?

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u can stay in my bed i mean house

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im actually starting to scumread eddie for all this unrelated content

Not sure if srs

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when you visit, you cant drive my car tho

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yes its a V8

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Cane came in and immediately started bussing Lexa as well...

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VOTE: unvote

lol wat

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/replace

in hospital

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So rb copped Cedrick N1 AND killed him N2? smh.....

was gonna miss night action deadline and didnt have time so i just said 'kill cedrick' because i couldnt think of anything else lol

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Hi. I wasn't scum.

this is a scumclaim

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Eddie Cane #1