Micro 792: Three in One (Day 6)

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

If you were town, why would you vote not mafia?

VOTE: penguin

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Not_Mafia is not mafia.

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reads for bambi:

Bambi: policy lynchable
Cheeky: bad reads and hard townreads you, is scum pocketing you
Gamma: capable of faking gamesolving, probscum sucking up to me
northsidegal: has posted nothing game relevant, basically scumclaiming
Not_Mafia: policy lynchable with extreme prejudice (although should be kept around depending on how spicy his memes are)
PenguinPower: blanket disapproval of optimal claiming strategy is exactly the kind of scum pushback i get from my gamebreaking
RedFlavor: blatantly chainsaw defending/WKing not_mafia, deserves rope, probably scum
SomethingSmart: honestly he's scummy in every game i've played with him so

does that help at all

Lol

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have pushed a lot of strategies in open games and your reaction is most similar to scum reactions in my experience

elaborate pls

Check the game linked in Math's sig (the thing about economics wonderland) and check what cy flipped

Lol that game

I was going to make a better post but I will make it 9 hours later

For now,
VOTE: bambietta

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And Red I realised was also playing similarly to JK9++.

You mean with his one "lol" post?

So apart from Penguin's reaction to your controversial theory, explain your scum read on him.

Do you read Not Mafia as mafia or do you want to lynch him because he is unreadable?

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What's wrong with Cheeky? She seems nice!

Anyway, Red, I want to know why your ISO is somehow shittier then NotMaf's or mine and why your vote on me.

I was sick
And I did not really like your 255, reason to vote mathdino. It looks like scummy excuse to vote someone just to vote or prevent them policy lynching you by saying they are scum trying to policy lynch you


Also my iso was never good in any game so your argument is invalid

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What's wrong with Cheeky? She seems nice!

Anyway, Red, I want to know why your ISO is somehow shittier then NotMaf's or mine and why your vote on me.

Why do you like cheeky?

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Because I feel a kindred spirit.

Red, I'm sure you remember JK9, my only current town win, yeah? You want to know something fun? Getting crapped on continuously since page one. I got my limits on being told I'm shit or a Policy Lynch, Red. That's all that vote is, and I won't be sad if it does go through.

Check again Red why haven't you shared the good news with Jay?

I totally forgot about making that

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I've never actually seen scum!NM so I can't compare to scum meta. What I have seen of his town game is usually quite trolly/humourous but his votes always make sense. In contrast, I see him trying a little too hard for what I expect of him and he's voted an inactive slot. I conclude that this must be his scum game since I haven't seen him play like this before.

Do I get extra cred if I say I have never mislynched town NM?

Why did you vote not mafia instead of someone that would give you reactions?
I think you are opportunistic scum who will say "He was impossible to read anyways, that was a good PL." after lyncing not mafia.

VOTE: cheeky

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Mathdino may be town if he is doing what Im thinking but thats very secret information and that would hurt town if I said it open

Btw me not tracky, forgot about this

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I've never actually seen scum!NM so I can't compare to scum meta. What I have seen of his town game is usually quite trolly/humourous but his votes always make sense. In contrast, I see him trying a little too hard for what I expect of him and he's voted an inactive slot. I conclude that this must be his scum game since I haven't seen him play like this before.

Do I get extra cred if I say I have never mislynched town NM?

Why did you vote not mafia instead of someone that would give you reactions?
I think you are opportunistic scum who will say "He was impossible to read anyways, that was a good PL." after lyncing not mafia.

VOTE: cheeky

I've created enough reactions and now I'm presenting a case on Not_Mafia as scum. I'm voting Not_Mafia because I think he's scum as I've pointed out.

As if I wouldn't realise that NM is a bad push if I were scum. I would leave him til LyLo along with you if you were town.

Bad vote buddy.

who is your second scum?

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@gamma

what do you think about Penguin and cheeky at this point?

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@bambi what is your read on ct and
@ct what is your read on bambi

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Hey Red can you post a reads list?

Ill post is after I get my answers from 2

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Oh yeah, unlike Penguin you two CAN be partners.

Who can be partners?

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Red please. Read the entire thing. It's not that hard.

Do you still think CT and math can be partners?

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Mathdino: He is trying to move the gamestate, solving the game. He got many votes because he wanted to PL bambi. I dont see him as scum.

Ss: they are trying to gamesolve for themselves, asking questions, etc. They are also probably town

Not mafia: Not mafia is not mafia, I guess I kinda understand his vote on me, I appeared on daystart then I started lurking? I was actually sick so... Also he could hammer MD. Town I guess

Penguin: 382 is what I liked. Also his next posts mention things that what I found pingy. Probably town

Gamma: Well, he is a person with posts. I read them but my gut told me he is somwehat playing similar to other games. He is nulltownish

NSG: I dont think I have a read on them yet. They were also passive in the early game of tit for tat. But I think I didnt like their reasons to vote mathdino. Nullscumish-ish



I think I have put my order in towniest to scummiest. Im not really sure about those I mentioned that are null, but others are fine me thinks

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Geez I want to say Red is town but I think I only feel that way because he wants me to. *shrug*

His reads aren't very strong and obv his SR on me is wrong so I need to watch him before kneejerking that Red is town. I'm watching you O_O

Pedit go away.

If Im scumreading you why would I want you to townread me

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Why that team impossible

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No, why am I dumb for BB/CT

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Yeah math has a point

VOTE: nsg

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Gonna read whole thread in penguin's style

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Mathdino, who would you vote if you were scum in this game?

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By vote I mean try to mislynch or maybe bus

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Is that line more characteristic of scum-him?

I dunno. It just pinged me that he called for more votes without voting.

I'm suspicious of Math, Gamma and the cute penguin at this point. I can take or leave most of these reads, meaning confidence = 2ish/10.

Hard TR Bambi.

How hard TR bambi this early? Which posts of them seemd townie until that moment?

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Why did you vote them if you were hard-townreading bambi

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Plan:

We lynch NSG, when she flips scum we quicklynch bambietta and not_mafia then win

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Plan:

We lynch NSG, when she flips scum we quicklynch bambietta and not_mafia then win

Are you townreading everyone else?

If nsg is scum other one is bambi/NM

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What do you count as contribution then

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I think they have a PL partner because their first posts were about being absolutely opposite to PL'ing

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VOTE: NSG

Wait is this hammer

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Mouth breather.

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VOTE: bambietta bambietto

Lets seee

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VOTE: Red

Why?

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PR'S should claim IMO because that will give us like 2 confirmed townies

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And yeah it could be PP

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@Math: Oh excuse me for getting the game started. Don't call my reads bad until lynch Kthnx!

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Hi North, I'm town, hoping you are too. Just knocking on your door

This does not seem like a scumteam start

NSG back to null :/ SS can be town.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

what dropped me down, and what raised smart up?

Content. Smart feels natural/not agenda driven. I didn't like your skepticism of Math's town read on you and didn't understand your line of questionning on him. Yes me not understanding is not your fault but it subtly pinged me because you're usually pretty concise.

Cheeky is not mafia

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N_M visited no one, is a VT, not guilty, and was jailkept.

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Dont mind me, Im just hypoing just in case

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NM is a Mafia Roleblocker

Town does not have a rolecop

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Don't think Gamma would kill Math either. Only people that make sense are Bambi/Penguin. Just saying.

Agreed.

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Gama's ISO just has too much posts to NSG about her being mafia member. He unvoted tho but I dont think they are scum together.

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Gama's ISO just has too much posts to NSG about her being mafia member. He unvoted tho but I dont think they are scum together.

What do you think about SS voting him?

Its confusing, Ill think about it later, right now Im busy and I could totally not make this post. But hey

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Before I go, I want to say something.

I am a medium and Math is saying "Don't ignore my reads." from graveyard.
Just saying

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I never talked to them about this game so no

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You think N_M would scumhammer his buddy before she gets a chance to draw ccs?

We should really really be getting claims here soon

Lynchpool is still NSG nm bambi

I'm talking about these kind of things, idk. We dont know what he would say about nsg's partner though. Lets just not ignore

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i wasn't town in be yourself so i can't speak to getting fooled by cheeky's scumgame there but she feels pretty towny this game to me. none of the avenues she's explored have seemed forced which was my preexisting benchmark for what scum cheeky looks like.

earlier in the game when not_mafia was calling out gamma i was thinking that he might be trying to look more helpful as a scum play with all the talk of policy lynches going around. the mentioning of himself not hammering fits into that, but i don't think that's something that he's kept up such that it's actually indicative. it depends on how much danger he's considered himself in as to whether making less game-relevant posts would actually be a towntell i think.

i'm not really sure what to make of penguin's progression on math, where he goes from (bolding mine):

Oh, no, I don't like how you play.

Insulting other players as you have is pretty weak. However, I didn't discredit you (though I think your "optimum" whatever is not), you have explicitly said that you weren't playing the game, and that now your vote on me is only if you "have to play the game." Further, your policy lynches are shit and insulting to the players that are in the game. Grow up a bit.

I'm voting you because you don't seem genuine in your stances at all. Get off your high horse and meta, and come back to the game

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UNVOTE:

That went up too fast and I don't care for Cheeky's rationale.

Quite possible I just don't like math's playstyle.

Good to note that Not_Mafia is either town or scum with Math.

i still think math's progression on me makes no sense in the slightest.

Penguin may not be the other scum

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i welcome you to go into her post history and find out if she has a generally anti-PL stance

like she can correct me if i'm wrong but i haven't seen that kind of thing from her

lie.

"policy lynches are scum garbage" ring a bell?

Would NSG clarify this if her scum friend was not a policy lynch?

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Don't think Gamma would kill Math either.

Don't think Gamma would kill Math either.

Agreed.

Why?

There being no town vigilantes, gamma cant kill NSG.

Bambi's was a wolfy pop in

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What I agreed was Gamma being not mafia, not night kill not doer

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Oh gosh what a mess (oh gosh)

Well played everyone

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VOTE: Bambi

VOTE: Bambi

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I was cop with inno on NM

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Oh fuck I retracr just in case

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Why did you block me?

Do you know when someone blocks you or every persons blocked lists?

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I thougt you guys were talking about site block dont mind me

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Because you were my biggest townreads. I've been told I'm very anti-town and have a knack for selling out the PRs.

That's really smart move tbh


GJ

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I mean, you successfully blocked him.

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BTW this is my second win

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EP did you put two cops in??

Nope

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Your hypo was too specific after mine

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Mathdino may be town if he is doing what Im thinking but thats very secret information and that would hurt town if I said it open

Btw me not tracky, forgot about this

This was math being a neaopiltan, trying to get scum claim tracker

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ah yeah RC pulled that

the only scenario in which scum would claim tracker though is double mafia goon

PLZ DONT SAY YOU READ THE WHOLE GAME

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VOTE: penguin

Let's orchestrate a quicklynch on mod

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Im tempted to hammer

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Oh ffs. What a bunch of rubbish.

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Not participating.

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Fun note...Math doesn't want to actually play the game.

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Yeah, tactical for town

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I read the scum pt and Im sorry if I was harsh nsg

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Ss never voted pp

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The PP wagon went to L-1 within three posts of the day starting... how hard is it to look at who's on it?

Do you think chweky is scum for asking that

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The PP wagon went to L-1 within three posts of the day starting... how hard is it to look at who's on it?

Do you think chweky is scum for asking that

Not really, looks like a genuine attempt to generate content.

I thought same

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Yes that's true. I like fun. Winning is fun XD

So then if you're town, take your vote off town

I wouldn't be town if my votes didn't hit town at some point during the day. But fine..

VOTE: Red


Same question to you about your PP vote.

I wanted to quicklynch PP
(joke, I wanted to see if anyone would hammer since it would out 2 members of scum team)

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Id like to hear more from pp and ge and md

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Yes that's true. I like fun. Winning is fun XD

So then if you're town, take your vote off town

I wouldn't be town if my votes didn't hit town at some point during the day. But fine..

VOTE: Red


Same question to you about your PP vote.

I wanted to quicklynch PP
(joke, I wanted to see if anyone would hammer since it would out 2 members of scum team)

How would a hammer out two members? Wouldn't it be just one?

It became L-2 after I voted, if there were immediate hammer after mine it would out 2 scum members

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I think that's a bit too simplistic. Do you think Math is scum for pushing to L-1 and do you think I'm his buddy for giving intent and asking for a claim?

No, I think you are town and I think math thought same thing with me while voting

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By same thing, I mean hammerer is scum

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I think I want to lynch Gamma today.

His posts are too short, even cautious
Is this why you want to lynch him?

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Are you memeing NSG?

I was memeing PP but you never realized that

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Ia gree with that gutread, they were really different

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I think I want to lynch Gamma today.

His posts are too short, even cautious
Is this why you want to lynch him?

This is weird...why didn't you just ask me why I wanted to lynch him? Why lead in?

I read his iso and 2 worded posts just seemed odd

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okay let's play a better game

say you were scum and i was all "ey dude i'm fukin vigging u if u don't come up with reads"

what reads would you fake

Cheeky town, Red scum

LOL

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If I seem cautious it's because this setup is AIDS for the PRs most likely

Why

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Yeah, we probably need to hit scum d1 which is u

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Math, do we lynch gamma emerald

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Yeah, claiming being cautious of getting pr hunter is opposite of being cautios

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Claiming that you are afraid of getting PRhunted is basically claiming that you are a PR. But if you were really cautious of getting PRhunted you would not mention being cautious of getting PRhunted, because saying that you are cautious of getting PRhunted is basically telling scum to kill you.

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Yeah, claiming being cautious of getting pr hunter is opposite of being cautios

Yes, aaaaand hypocrisy is a towntell.

Gamma is town GG.

Yeah or that is an excuse for scum to being cautious

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Plan: lets dont push anyone and let scum win

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Maybe doc should out themselves so cop wont get shot or town will have an ic?

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what happens if town no-luynches til scum win

Sir, you are brilliant

Now that I think of what could be done to it, it will be probably first 2 night kills or first nk and first lynch

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red explain this post:

I think I want to lynch Gamma today.

His posts are too short, even cautious
Is this why you want to lynch him?

This is weird...why didn't you just ask me why I wanted to lynch him? Why lead in?

I read his iso and 2 worded posts just seemed odd

The thing is, I wondered what could be penguins reason to scumread gamma then I read his iso, there were only things like "nope" "very likely", like he was scum trying to getting avoid getting caught. I think he might be scum for that so I asked if his reason is same with mine, it was not same but somehow similar.

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I think I want to lynch Gamma today.

His posts are too short, even cautious
Is this why you want to lynch him?

No...it's no different than how he started the last game.

I just gut want to lynch him right now.

VOTE: Gamma

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Ia gree with that gutread, they were really different

like this shit is baffling to me

PP: Let's lynch Gamma.
RF: Why, because his posting is cautious?
PP: No, because he started the game exactly like last game.
RF: I agree, he started the game completely differently *vote Gamma*

like what the fuck is going on here

Oh

Well, fuck me lol, I read it wrong. I did not see NO in different.

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VOTE: penguin

Let's orchestrate a quicklynch on mod

Oh ffs. What a bunch of rubbish.

Not participating.

Yeah, tactical for town

I read the scum pt and Im sorry if I was harsh nsg

Like come on how are you callig this content? His explanation of wagoning someone up instead of pushing elsewhere wasn't great and illogical. He tries to look like hes being serious instead of doing anything serious. He misunderstood your "seems tactical" comment, thinking NM was shading you and rushed into defend you - seems like he knows people's alignments. He scum slipped and admitted to reading the scum PT AFTER the day had already gone into play. Pretty sure most people would've read that EOD or SOD.

Read penguin's day1 iso

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NM. No. Bad Miltalk.

Do you scumread NM for voting you?

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I feel like cheeky will scumread math no matter card

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You're still scum.

I need you to explain why

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VOTE: CTComputer Tomography scumread me for memeing about penguin's reaction to day1 tracker claim, and now she is not explaining her scumread on math


Pedit oh well

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UNVOTE:

I don't want an hammer yet

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PART TWO: BROS BEFORE HOES
1133 – Red pings me with his “I wanted to quicklynch PP” reaction to my vote for reasons easily deduced from Chapter 1. The worst thing about this post is that he says he wanted to see a hammer since it would out 2 members of a team but that doesn’t make any sense…it would out 1 member of the scum team (ze hammerer) because there are already 3 existing players on the wagon and we don’t know which at this point. Oh, but he also says the push for a quicklynch was a joke? Wat? [[SBT: 2 points Red]]

You misunderstood me (or trying to misrepresent), the joke was me wanting to quicklynch PP

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Yeah, CT only has mathdino being different (cuz setup is different) and him voting PP to L-1, which could be understandable for a townie.

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Yeah I had no idea about PR tells, speaking about PR's would make it look like I am not afraid to get killed because Im not PR but...

Well played

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/pre in NM

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Penguin, did llama get fired because he did not put otter?

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can you all give a ballpark estimate of when confirmed btw

What's that

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VOTE: RedFlavor
might as well

Why

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can you all give a ballpark estimate of when confirmed btw

What's that

as in around when did you confirm your role?

40 minutes ago
Why do you ask

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@mod,I am v/la including sunday

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I think I want to lynch Gamma today.

His posts are too short, even cautious
Is this why you want to lynch him?

fucking lol

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Math is probably town for starting to scumhunt with angleshooty information

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Yeah I think gamma is trying to mislynch math

VOTE: gamma

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Why am I obvious mafia? Can you explain

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um he was GF, game's over
also haha fuck you dino

I think its probably not gamma for this post, menaning its not_mafia.
Gamma, who do you think it is?

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The start of page 69 and other things really really looks like gamma is not scum with math

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Like they are not even bussy, they just dont share a chat and alignment

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No one cares

VOTE: Penguin

Just vote Penguin or I'll QH you at the first opportunity

as long as townpenguin shoots redflavor, sure

VOTE: Penguin

Math did not wanted to lynch me because he was preparing my shoot, which would make the game win for him
Also this and some other interactions between NM/MD looks like operated from scum daychat

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i'm about 50% sure i've gamesolved

i need not_mafia to show up though

Sup

who are you tunneling today

Like these

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how

Like they are doing it to distance

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Yeah

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VOTE: not mafia
Not mafia is mafia

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Im sorry town and PP

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Congrats math

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See Math I did it, ye of little faith

I never survive in lylos anyways, it was a confirmed mafia win the moment I survived

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I wish I said not mafia is not not mafia

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GG all
GG all
GG all

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Thanks for modding, EP.