Mini 1995: The Absolute Worst Game Ever Run

Varsoon · Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:39 am

Oh, I thought Hider only died if the person they hid behind got shot, like a reverse bodyguard.
still, possibility of a non-weak Hider role on scum would make a lot of sense. I dunno, actually maybe it makes less sense and it's fine, Hider in a setup with loyal vigs.
What confuses me is why Mom wouldn't just hide behind the loyal vig claims to confirm them as town?

Ginngie · Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:41 am

In post 1475, Varsoon wrote:What confuses me is why Mom wouldn't just hide behind the loyal vig claims to confirm them as town?

That's for mom to answer

Ginngie · Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:43 am

but Var

thoughts on Vax and schadd

northsidegal · Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:45 am

i don't really believe the claim. that's the kind of thing that should definitely be explicitly claimed, especially given that you know you'll be either essentially guiltying yourself come tomorrow, or you'll be confirming the person you hid behind as scum.

did you crumb who you were going to hide behind, momrangal?

Ginngie · Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:56 am

In post 1478, northsidegal wrote:i don't really believe the claim. that's the kind of thing that should definitely be explicitly claimed, especially given that you know you'll be either essentially guiltying yourself come tomorrow, or you'll be confirming the person you hid behind as scum.

did you crumb who you were going to hide behind, momrangal?

I don’t exaxtly agree with this, but not my place to speak yet

Momrangal · Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:27 pm

In post 1475, Varsoon wrote:What confuses me is why Mom wouldn't just hide behind the loyal vig claims to confirm them as town?

I figured the vigs, if town were most likely going to get shot at by scum last night if only to reduce the chances that one if them hits them. Also the fact that being nearly universally town read made it likely that I would have a 50/50 chance of living. If they were also scum, I didn't mention them at all yesterday so if I hid behind them and died, no one would have thought that I would have hid behind them

In post 1478, northsidegal wrote:i don't really believe the claim. that's the kind of thing that should definitely be explicitly claimed, especially given that you know you'll be either essentially guiltying yourself come tomorrow, or you'll be confirming the person you hid behind as scum.

did you crumb who you were going to hide behind, momrangal?

I focused on three people yesterday, and one of them I lock-towned more or less. Of the two I didn't, I focused on one explicitly more than I did the other. Based on that, it would be an easy assumption on who I hid behind, at least I hope it would have.

As far as why I Havnt claimed yesterday, I did claim that I couldn't get shot at during night. I had wanted to lay low and not claim because I didn't want to tip off mafia and potentially get 4 kills in the first night because of how easy it would have been to guess who I hid behind.

It wasn't until near deadline that I realized that I was slated to be shot at, which is why I soft-claimed something along hider, bp, or commuter. If I was mafia, the first thing that would come to mind up on seeing that is xshot BP or even just straight up bp based on what my team's roles were

Momrangal · Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:28 pm

I mean, yeah I made a few one time mentions of other people bit if you Isoed me only a few names came up multiple times

Ginngie · Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:06 pm

In post 1480, Momrangal wrote:As far as why I Havnt claimed yesterday, I did claim that I couldn't get shot at during night. I had wanted to lay low and not claim because I didn't want to tip off mafia and potentially get 4 kills in the first night because of how easy it would have been to guess who I hid behind.

This was pretty much all I had to say about it.

Hiders pretty much lose their utility when claiming

Vaxkiller · Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:17 am

@ginggie
I need to take this game more seriously apparently. I reread the current day.

I'd ask if

REDACTED

but I would NEVER outguess the glorious mod.

Well, if it's all true, we get 3 town reads from it. I don't feel compelled to lynch there because it doesn't sound made up.

What has schadd done that sets your alarm off (or is it what he hasnt done?)

Redflavors comment at the start of the day is off to me but i dont know why. I think I want to vote there.

VOTE: redflavor

OH. Also Eldritch was providing a valuable service to town for making vote counts yesterday. I bet dollars to donuts that was considered when planning the NK.

Aneninen · Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:39 am

I know I'm doing pigeon poop right now.
Since I haven't had time yet to check anything, can someone summarize all the conclusions from the Night Actions we know for me?

Ginngie · Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:43 am

In post 1483, Vaxkiller wrote:@ginggie
I need to take this game more seriously apparently. I reread the current day.

I'd ask if
REDACTED
but I would NEVER outguess the glorious mod.

Well, if it's all true, we get 3 town reads from it. I don't feel compelled to lynch there because it doesn't sound made up.

What has schadd done that sets your alarm off (or is it what he hasnt done?)

Redflavors comment at the start of the day is off to me but i dont know why. I think I want to vote there.

VOTE: redflavor

OH. Also Eldritch was providing a valuable service to town for making vote counts yesterday. I bet dollars to donuts that was considered when planning the NK.

Apparently the entire hydra is like lol schadd_ scum here and he doesn’t have anything going

Also just sheeping me regarding the bird lynch yesterday and not doing anything else

Ginngie · Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:49 am

In post 1484, Aneninen wrote:I know I'm doing pigeon poop right now.
Since I haven't had time yet to check anything, can someone summarize all the conclusions from the Night Actions we know for me?

Basically, Golden shot assemblr, EA is scum kill because no one is claiming it, and Red Flavor is claiming to shoot mom who didn’t die because she hid behind Varsoon

Pretty much it without opinion

Vaxkiller · Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:00 am

Oh, poopy butts. I thought someone else claimed to shot Mom. I don't want to lynch there today.

Redflavors comment still weird tho.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: schadd

Vaxkiller · Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:01 am

ALMOST swore BTW. Close call!

Varsoon · Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:13 am

I thought Eldritch's VC's were lies, though?

Ginngie · Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:14 am

Yeah they were troll counts

mutantdevle · Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:17 am

Eldritch was majoritively scum reading schadd, could that be why they were night killed?

Ginngie · Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:19 am

Ya pretty much

RedFlavor · Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:22 am

VOTE: schadd

mutantdevle · Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:23 am

I feel like that's probably the most likely reason considering the vote count thing doesn't hold up and Eldritch was inherently anti-town.

VOTE: schadd_

Momrangal · Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:02 am

Aneninen
TheGoldenParadox
Momrangal
schadd_
Ginngie
mutantdevle
northsidegal
Vaxkiller
Varsoon
RedFlavor

Putting this here for my sake

Momrangal · Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:05 am

Ok so, assuming 10:3 we are most likely at 8:3. The vigs imo are gonna need to holster and not kill, or we risk loosing the game

Varsoon · Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:47 am

Okay, can someone remind me who has claimed what? I'm pretty sure I've solved the game at this point, assuming there's no moderator lies in regard to role results and functionality.

Momrangal · Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:49 am

I'm a hider
Redflavor and TheGoldenParadox are loyal vigs

Varsoon · Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:59 am

I'm a gunsmith or whatever checks if people have a gun/are capable of kills.
I checked Ginngie and was told Ginngie does not have a gun.
With you hiding behind me and surviving, that clears me, contingent on you not lying there, which clears Ginngie.
If Redflavor and GoldenParadox are town loyal vigs, then both can be considered town. I believe their claims because my results would reflect they have guns and would be incriminating had they not claimed loyal vig.

So that leaves:
Aneninen
schadd_
mutantdevle
northsidegal
Vaxkiller

If we lynch one of those today, then we co-ordinate use of my gunsmith and both loyal vigilantes, that means we can 'clear' all but one either by flips or night results. If Mom's willing to hide in that group, we could even clear them all. Regardless of kills, we'll still have at least enough town to counter scum, if my numbers are correct, right?