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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:48 pm

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In post 248, Human Sequencer wrote:reading over his iso half of his posts are empty filler like this
In post 16, Eddie Cane wrote:pop a purrocet
In post 32, Eddie Cane wrote:lexa is U scumm
In post 163, Eddie Cane wrote:I spoke to Katy.
In post 166, Eddie Cane wrote:beetlejuiced
he has a lynchboner for brian and me which i don't really get

eddie why do you have a lynchboner for brian and me
this is a really awful cherry pick lol

he's at least given reads and pushed, he's actively sorting with a poe as well

like......... there's AI content.............

pedit: lmfao i forgot about that asnkdfjlsdjfjlasdf;a;;;;
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:49 pm

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ok then, huh
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:50 pm

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In post 243, Human Sequencer wrote: elibirn is pretty towny, he's reading pretty genuine, especially in his apologetic mindset towards not reading the thread
Is being apologetic generally a townie thing to you?
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:50 pm

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it's fine gamma nobody's perfect <3

what's your take on human right now?
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:52 pm

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you asked me why cane hasn't made an impression
that's probably why cane hasn't made an impression

i'm not trying to say he's doing it maliciously or with scum intent
but when there's so much white noise coming out of a slot it's hard to get reads
especially with 15 people

i have a tenuous at best grasp of how to play large games

PEDIT: that was a typo actually elbirn
it was supposed to be his 'unapolagetic mindset'
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:55 pm

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Right, but it’s not like all of his content is filler. In terms of quantity he’s given probably the second or third most in terms of game advancing content, whether you think it’s good or townie or not. There’s kind of a disconnect here I think and I don’t really like it

Also this is a 15 player game, calling it a large is generous.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:56 pm

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In post 248, Human Sequencer wrote:reading over his iso half of his posts are empty filler like this
In post 16, Eddie Cane wrote:pop a purrocet
In post 32, Eddie Cane wrote:lexa is U scumm
In post 163, Eddie Cane wrote:I spoke to Katy.
In post 166, Eddie Cane wrote:beetlejuiced
he has a lynchboner for brian and me which i don't really get

eddie why do you have a lynchboner for brian and me
the middle 2 are not empty or filler, they are directly game relevant. if you're going to cherrypick my iso do it better.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:58 pm

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In post 223, Eddie Cane wrote:Another way of looking at my pool is as people I'm okay running up to vig today.

{Brian > HS > TG > Sky > Kiana > Hebi > Lexa}

Updated the order a tiny bit, still mostly the same. I probably prefer not Sky or Kiana for vig purposes though, as they're too low info to be worth a shot as of now. If they lurk out as scum until then that has other consequences.
{HS > Brian > TG > Sky > Kiana > Hebi > Lexa}


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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:00 pm

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everything with more than 9 players feels like a large to me

i don't really like having that post being characterized as a cherry pick when i was pretty clearly just explaining why i'm having difficulties reading the slot
the middle two may have been game relevant, but they're not anything i can possibly make a read off of at this point in the game
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:02 pm

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but you quoted them as examples of "empty and filler"

i have 20% of the posts ITT and the second most content after Katy. I should not be the person "blending in" with... actually, your names were Lexa and DLE iirc, each of whom I have made several specific posts about. this doesn't feel genuine.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:04 pm

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It's still 4 posts out of 50 something? The point is even if Eddie has some filler posts he's still done stuff to establish himself and characterizing him as a slot that hasnt really done anything seems misrepresentative

Lexa I can understand. DLE I can even understand even if I think his few posts were super obvtown. But Eddie just feels like he shouldn't be in that category?

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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:04 pm

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In post 243, Human Sequencer wrote:Kat is a towny town
why do we have to waste an easy townread on a confirmable slot zzz

elibirn is pretty towny, he's reading pretty genuine, especially in his apologetic mindset towards not reading the thread
everybody else just blends together
dle, Eddie cane, lexa, probably more even just feel like the same person in my head
anything else? it doesn't have to be a concise stance; what comes to mind is good. stream of consciousness is sortable.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:13 pm

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In post 257, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 223, Eddie Cane wrote:Another way of looking at my pool is as people I'm okay running up to vig today.

{Brian > HS > TG > Sky > Kiana > Hebi > Lexa}

Updated the order a tiny bit, still mostly the same. I probably prefer not Sky or Kiana for vig purposes though, as they're too low info to be worth a shot as of now. If they lurk out as scum until then that has other consequences.
{HS > Brian > TG > Sky > Kiana > Hebi > Lexa}


choo choo motherfuckers
So FUNNY story

I had just gone through Gaiden's ISO for I don't even know what reason, and found approximately fuckall content in it aside from some fluff and setup spec and pretending to be useful, and I was about to commence bullying them until I thought better of it

But then I read this post, and I could not understand why Gaiden wasn't listed in your generous lynch pool of over half the player list, and couldn't imagine what they'd have done to become a townread of yours.

And then it turned out this wasn't even a recent development! I was beaten to the punch in those pages I didn't read by this man:
In post 191, Text Generator wrote: Tentatively EC's reads look easy or spurious. He has a pool of mostly low content posters, and his preferred lynch order is nearly the opposite of the order I read the slots in.
In post 192, Text Generator wrote:The reversal on Gaiden also struck me as odd.
And so far as I can tell there remains to be seen any clue as to why Eddie townreads someone who has done literally nothing and in fact reversed on them for no reason.

Where's your head at Eddie-bay-bee?
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:13 pm

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i never said he hasn't really done anything. THAT is misrepresentative.

what happened is i read the thread and came into the thread realizing that i don't really have a solid grasp on half or more of the playerlist. then i posted that realization. then you both questioned that, asking how i don't really have a read on eddie cane when he's been posting so much, which i think is reasonable. then i went through his iso and tried to find out why eddie didn't make an impression on me.

and then i posted what i thought affected it.

can you really not see how a slot having a lot of one line, unimpressionable posts can cause them to mentally slurry together with other players

like i don't doubt there's a lot of alignment indicative content in his posting, and i could probably read over it and force a read on the slot, but i don't really like forcing reads in general
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:14 pm

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In post 261, Eddie Cane wrote:
In post 243, Human Sequencer wrote:Kat is a towny town
why do we have to waste an easy townread on a confirmable slot zzz

elibirn is pretty towny, he's reading pretty genuine, especially in his apologetic mindset towards not reading the thread
everybody else just blends together
dle, Eddie cane, lexa, probably more even just feel like the same person in my head
anything else? it doesn't have to be a concise stance; what comes to mind is good. stream of consciousness is sortable.
i still don't understand the brian lynchboner at all
i can kinda understand the hs lynchboner now but not before these recent posts
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:16 pm

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In post 253, Katyusha wrote:it's fine gamma nobody's perfect <3

what's your take on human right now?
I think she's town
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:16 pm

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Nah I'm gonna do it, your brain is fake and fake brains are scum brains

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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:20 pm

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In post 263, Human Sequencer wrote:can you really not see how a slot having a lot of one line, unimpressionable posts can cause them to mentally slurry together with other players
maybe it's from doing an iso? i don't know, having read this game entirely in context and not yet doing an ISO i feel like Eddie has been kind of echoing what I've been thinking in my head a lot, maybe change a thing or two.

and yeah, don't force reads if you don't have to. i have full faith if you're town you can towntell and scumhunt fine but right now I don't really see it. If anything you kind of remind me of your play in that shitty micro from way back when? it was literally your last game iirc, you felt kind of potatoey i guess and just kind of floating around. if you're just in a rut though let's try to get out of it
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In post 253, Katyusha wrote:it's fine gamma nobody's perfect <3

what's your take on human right now?
I think she's town
Talk to me about why? I feel like you're usually right when I get into tunnels like this lol (or when im scum pushing them like in House in the Woods)

like do you think the point about me feeling like they kind of just skimmed eddie's iso and make a wrong characterization makes sense?

pedit: would like to see where this one goes
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:21 pm

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mostly because i also am townreading gaiden lmao
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:22 pm

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re·ver·sal
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noun
a change to an opposite direction, position, or course of action.
"a dramatic reversal in population decline in the Alps"
synonyms: turnaround, turnabout, about-face, volte-face, change of heart, U-turn, one-eighty, 180, backtracking; More
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:22 pm

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since apparently 4 years on this site isn't enough to know what a reversal is

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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:23 pm

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snark translator: taking someone out of a POE isn't a reversal, it's just townreading them in the first place
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:27 pm

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In post 267, Katyusha wrote:
In post 263, Human Sequencer wrote:can you really not see how a slot having a lot of one line, unimpressionable posts can cause them to mentally slurry together with other players
maybe it's from doing an iso? i don't know, having read this game entirely in context and not yet doing an ISO i feel like Eddie has been kind of echoing what I've been thinking in my head a lot, maybe change a thing or two.

and yeah, don't force reads if you don't have to. i have full faith if you're town you can towntell and scumhunt fine but right now I don't really see it. If anything you kind of remind me of your play in that shitty micro from way back when? it was literally your last game iirc, you felt kind of potatoey i guess and just kind of floating around. if you're just in a rut though let's try to get out of it
the difference is i'm not thinking what you're thinking
i've asked him to explain the whole brian thing like twice and he's just stonewalling me so i don't know how i'm supposed to see what he's seeing

if the micro was the nano multiball with luca blight (which was my last game before hiatus i think) then i was in a massive rut then, but i was also town in that game
i don't feel particularly rutty rn tho
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:29 pm

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i meant the one you were scum with mortfeld and you both replaced out

drealfucker was a serial killer, was disgruntled town who hydra'd with yume who never posted.

meh, i'll try to be diplomatic and ask eddie to respond to both you and elbirn - i know he probably doesnt want to out of annoyance but it's probably for the best. if you're town i want to work with you and i dont think i'll ever scumread elbirn here
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:30 pm

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also the possibility i'm getting pocketed exists etc

i dont want to paranoia lynch eddie d1 though i'd feel like a shitty friend
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