Mini 1995: The Absolute Worst Game Ever Run

[Ginngie]

Okay but Math, tell me the NSG formula because sheeping you as scum gave me success and now you're like town here so that's even better

[Ginngie]

I can't till you get it right

I can't tell you what

but like

it's not

[Ginngie]

Who is my MathDino for this game

You do realise the last time you ran into said dinosaur, said dinosaur was scum?

Look all the good players on this hydra have schadd in the lynchpool. If you wanna get with the program, come on board.

VOTE: schadd

No but like, his logic was still sound IIRC and I basically townlocked NSG just because

[Ginngie]

Okay but Math, tell me the NSG formula because sheeping you as scum gave me success and now you're like town here so that's even better

Any posts signed "Math" are categorically not Math.

Any posts signed "Not_Mafia" are categorically Not Not_Mafia.

People don't seem to get this

Spreadsheet says NSG is probtown. Paradox and Red are both town from experience.

schadd is definitely not town.
VOTE: schadd

screams

[Ginngie]

Are you saying I’m trying not to bus schadd?

But not voting him?

What the actual fuck kind of logic is that

[Ginngie]

YALL HAVE PLAYED WITH ME BEFORE

[Ginngie]

AND I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH YOU

BUT YOU'RE NOT HELPING

[Ginngie]

I hammer everything dipshit

I literally need nothing from you but I'm caught in a game of charades trying to signal to you without gettin kilt

[Ginngie]

and you're doing fuck all about it

[Ginngie]

Okay so like here's the deal

I have actual vote counts

[Ginngie]

Hydra

you guys are currently not voting

[Ginngie]

you're actually not lmfao

[Ginngie]

but you dont want to listen

[Ginngie]

Alright be a dick then

[Ginngie]

nope you can go piss off because my help isnt wanted

[Ginngie]

Well the hydra has scum reads me and I don't do anything until everyone townreads me because the scum reads are a waste of time

[Ginngie]

So we get to work this shit out

[Ginngie]

Well the hydra has scum reads me and I don't do anything until everyone townreads me because the scum reads are a waste of time

Looks defeatist. Scum slip?

Nope

I engage anyone that scumreads me

Now y’all been calling me scum but it’s only been an empty title, no weight behind it

[Ginngie]

The only thing you harp me on is behavioral oddities that are just how I play and easily proven to be that way

[Ginngie]

Also I’m very self aware of my ego and people scumrwading me pisses me off

[Ginngie]

*whistles*

[Ginngie]

You scum read me every game numbnut

[Ginngie]

Anyway talk to me

[Ginngie]

you know thats not true.

the one game I had you on the poe list I also didn't push you after I solved the team sans dan so.

Kilo, supper, Maple memory serves me

I remember chess telling you to stop scumrwading me

Don’t remember it being on your on accord

[Ginngie]

Wait wat

[Ginngie]

On phone so can’t check

But that worries me that I’m starting to forget game events

This is totally off topic but I’ve always been able to recall large parts of every game I played accurately maybe 2 years of games are getting a little crowded lmao

[Ginngie]

Post linked to chesskid

Chesskid alt confirmed

[Ginngie]

OH

I SEE

[Ginngie]

Brb meeting with investors

[Ginngie]

have you considered not holding the town hostage, ginngie

How am i holding the town hostage

I may be petty,

But I’m only petty when provoked

[Ginngie]

I have a confession to make

[Ginngie]

Spoiler:

Im not a Gov. I just felt like dicking around with why the flip is delayed lmfao

[Ginngie]

Red who you shoot

[Ginngie]

People im not lynching today:

Ginggie
ElderAbominomicon
Varsoon

If mutant is on the choping block I would stop and consider it more.

Anyone else I'll insta lynch without hesitation.

Going back through I don't like Vax for this post because he has two easy town reads posted and then lumps in Varsoon.

Maybe its old memories but varsoon is being incredibly lack luster

He is, and I'm not town reading him. I just don't want to lynch him.

I'm town reading ginggie and Eldrith Abombanation is just fun to have around.

The issue I have with him is that he doesn't give a reason to not lynch him, just being blatant that he doesn't want to do so.


Now if Varsoon doesn't pick up the pace since EA is dead, there's a chance of these two being a duo

[Ginngie]

Who we lynching?

VOTE: IC

VOTE: mom

Ginggie still town... and holy cow abomination might b.

Also considering this, Vax isn't really looking to put in any scum hunting and just go with what the town wants and given the apathy setting, it's easy to just jump from ship to ship.

With all of that said, it makes me very reluctant to push Mom after his willingness to vote for Mom and just never post anything of substance surrounding it.

Basically I think scum coasting and easy sheeping of the popular opinion of the town

[Ginngie]

maybe one of the loyal vigs hid their role

Are you trying to say that both of the kills were made by loyal vigs?

Idk, I dont see why would mafia kill eldritch

So what you’re saying is that you think one of you didn’t actually shoot

[Ginngie]

Even unbalanced i don’t see three bloody vigs

[Ginngie]

My only true town read for most of the day ginggie was you. I wanted to keep eldrith around for funzzies and to keep the game going (without them this game could stagnant pretty easily.)

As far as Varsoon goes, I have no read on them and was giving them a day 1 pass because I like thier games they make.

Not sure if you have seen my scum games, ginggie, but im a bit of a try hard when im scum.

I don’t believe i have lol

So what was it about yesterday that made you see me as town mate

[Ginngie]

huh? is it really so unbelievable to people that eldrich got shot by scum?

Apparently lol

[Ginngie]

I don’t hoenstly understand the angle Red is trying to explore here

He sees 2 kills and the one he shot isn’t killed, and questions it all

Like it should be pretty clear to him?

[Ginngie]

Also how much faith are we going to put in a loyal vig shot going through


Looking at the game state

Scum seeing assmelber get killed is like lol okay free kill but the mish mash comes around the 2nd vig shot

Like where I get doubtful is how easy it is for there to be an scum role to stop mom from dying

I’m pretty sure i did the math right and that we have today and then we in MyLo or LyLo

So like doing any one action to fuck with a vig shot to get a pseudo guilty to coast to My/LyLo

Sounds really juicy of an opportunity to take

[Ginngie]

ya'll bitches postin or what

[Ginngie]

Alright understandable

So what's your take on the mom thing

and as for scum reads where you lookin

[Ginngie]

why did you hide behind Varsoon

[Ginngie]

Tbh I believe it

With that said I'm looking into

schadd/aneninen
and a maybe on Vax rn

Main thing is that like, my theory doesn't work out with a Vax/Var thing I was thinking of so really only with what I was thinking of as Vax earlier.

[Ginngie]

TOWN
EldritchAbomination
Aneninen
Infinite Canine
Varsoon
Vaxkiller
northsidegal

LOYAL VIGS (Most likely TOWN)
RedFlavor
TheGoldenParadox

PEOPLE LEFT
Assemblerotws
Momrangal
schadd_
Ginngie
mutantdevle

Going back to this, a dying wish Elli has is too sheep him on his reads because the dude is good at the game, and given myself is out obviously, and mom being a hider and Ass dead, going with schadd is the route to go here

VOTE: schadd_

[Ginngie]

Doesn't hider mean you have to be of the same alignment?

[Ginngie]

What confuses me is why Mom wouldn't just hide behind the loyal vig claims to confirm them as town?

That's for mom to answer

[Ginngie]

but Var

thoughts on Vax and schadd

[Ginngie]

i don't really believe the claim. that's the kind of thing that should definitely be explicitly claimed, especially given that you know you'll be either essentially guiltying yourself come tomorrow, or you'll be confirming the person you hid behind as scum.

did you crumb who you were going to hide behind, momrangal?

I don’t exaxtly agree with this, but not my place to speak yet

[Ginngie]

As far as why I Havnt claimed yesterday, I did claim that I couldn't get shot at during night. I had wanted to lay low and not claim because I didn't want to tip off mafia and potentially get 4 kills in the first night because of how easy it would have been to guess who I hid behind.

This was pretty much all I had to say about it.

Hiders pretty much lose their utility when claiming

[Ginngie]

@ginggie
I need to take this game more seriously apparently. I reread the current day.

I'd ask if

REDACTED

but I would NEVER outguess the glorious mod.

Well, if it's all true, we get 3 town reads from it. I don't feel compelled to lynch there because it doesn't sound made up.

What has schadd done that sets your alarm off (or is it what he hasnt done?)

Redflavors comment at the start of the day is off to me but i dont know why. I think I want to vote there.

VOTE: redflavor

OH. Also Eldritch was providing a valuable service to town for making vote counts yesterday. I bet dollars to donuts that was considered when planning the NK.

Apparently the entire hydra is like lol schadd_ scum here and he doesn’t have anything going

Also just sheeping me regarding the bird lynch yesterday and not doing anything else

[Ginngie]

I know I'm doing pigeon poop right now.
Since I haven't had time yet to check anything, can someone summarize all the conclusions from the Night Actions we know for me?

Basically, Golden shot assemblr, EA is scum kill because no one is claiming it, and Red Flavor is claiming to shoot mom who didn’t die because she hid behind Varsoon

Pretty much it without opinion

[Ginngie]

Yeah they were troll counts

[Ginngie]

Ya pretty much

[Ginngie]

oh this just got really fucky

[Ginngie]

Wouldn't that mean if no lies then Vax/Aneninen/mutant


My issue tho

is like

I've modded a fucked game before

and even while this game is advertised as unbalanced

it just

doesn't feel right

[Ginngie]

Also what I have issue with is that scum can be given any of the double role PMs :/

[Ginngie]

The only thing that makes me put faith in it is because I find Aneninen/Vax scrummy

[Ginngie]

That moment when RedFlavor is actually a loyal vig but can't kill because that means he would have to kill a scum

[Ginngie]

Would be a funny way of getting a pseudo guilty that doesn't damn your own slot and also explain only two kills lmao

[Ginngie]

I say we just operate assuming everything works and no one is lying.

HEY NORTH

[Ginngie]

WHAT IF WE FOLLOWED OUR HEARTS

[Ginngie]

AND SAID IT WAS ALL TRUE AND ASSUME NO LIE

[Ginngie]

I'm not saying I can hear North groan and slam head on keyboard but >_>

[Ginngie]

TBH, vigs can't really shoot tonight or they fuck the game over

you can hide because you can confirm another slot or if you do die, you set off a huge chain of confirmations with Varsoon and I and in a technical sense of who you hid behind

[Ginngie]

There is 10 of us alive today

Scum wins if 3 alive and 6 total because that's 50%

worst case we lynch Town today then that's 9 people

If scum kills and then the two vigs hit town

That's three kills so

9-3 equals 6 and game over

[Ginngie]

aren't there eleven of us?

and yeah, i didn't take into account lynching town.

Canine dead
EA dead
Assemblr dead

Three town dead

Thats 10

[Ginngie]

So yeah basically it's gamethrowing to shoot

[Ginngie]

Bitchin

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[Ginngie]

Hey mutant who scum if it ain’t y’all

Or would you say that Anne is scim

[Ginngie]

That's like LOL-2 right?

[Ginngie]

bruh is you not able to read

[Ginngie]

Again, as I've said, I think the intent was for us to be at each other's throats in counter-claims and false-guilities on the loyal vigilantes.

This makes a dummy amount of sense tbh

[Ginngie]

http://www.lynchpress.com/

Self lynch help

Just for you Vax

[Ginngie]

[Ginngie]

Occam's bro

[Ginngie]

What in the duck

[Ginngie]

self hammer

It’s honorable

[Ginngie]

That’s a dumbass question to be asking me

[Ginngie]

schadd_, vanilla townie, died N2.
northsidegal, town gunsmith, died N2.

Deadline: (expired on 2018-04-20 16:23:36)

Oh my mother of fuck

[Ginngie]

Which one of you dumb fucks didn’t listen to what I said yesterday?

[Ginngie]

Just for the sake of having it out there, mom and Var, whats good?

[Ginngie]

So we have 26 days

And given Vax flipping town, I think it’s safe to say playing by role isn’t going to work here

So basically by play is all I’m going to consider here

[Ginngie]

Outside of claiming BP

Everything else sounds asinine to claim given if a vig shot someone and they faked a claim they’re fucked

I’m more inclined to see it as honest

[Ginngie]

That does make sense

So take my hand and let’s go by play

[Ginngie]

One thing to note tho

[Ginngie]

In which I’m still holding play over role

[Ginngie]

Again, as I've said, I think the intent was for us to be at each other's throats in counter-claims and false-guilities on the loyal vigilantes.

So like back to this

[Ginngie]

My gut tells me that mastina putting in only one role when she has a pattern set up of going 2 pairs when also her mantra is “ROLE != AI” would be another example

[Ginngie]

Like does that make sense?

Including literally one role just to fuck with us

That’s why I care more about play here

Also

There’s an issue you’re not seeing

Please include yourself in a list and say who’s “conf!town”

And further understand why i think something else that is fucky is going on

[Ginngie]

I’m just perplexed with Red and Golden

I’ve been wondering if scum just got a vig to work with

[Ginngie]

I've actually been doing some thinking

[Ginngie]

I'll express my thought in a day

[Ginngie]

Oh, it looks like we still have enough time for...

THE GAME SHOW WITH REDFLAVOR

Hello everyone, and welcome to the first official episode of

THE GAME SHOW WITH REDFLAVOR

Today, we are going to look for options for scum when a loyal vigilante attacks them.

OPTION A:

Discredit the loyal vigilante and get them lynched. But you will get lynched after that.

OPTION B:

Claim non-town and get lynched.

OPTION C:

Claim a town role cleverly that will explain why you are not dead and survive the day.

OPTION D:

Claim healed but since your doctor is fake you will get lynched.

The right choice will be revealed after Momrangal's flip. Until that, take care of yourself and hope that this game does not have town hiders when there are town loyal vigilantes.

See you next time.

Eeeeh
VOTE: Momrag
Sure

Why are you so flip floppity

[Ginngie]

And i don’t get how easily you sheep the opinion of “we’ll figure it out after a flip”

When it’s literally 7 people left

It’s LyLo dude

[Ginngie]

Lmfao

[Ginngie]

I'm bored as shit because no one will listen

[Ginngie]

I'm busy with exams for the next week, busy till next Thursday

VOTE: RedFlavor

[Ginngie]

ITS MY CAKE DAY

[Ginngie]

If after 48 hours then yeah that'd make sense with two votes on

the only thing is tho

Votes don't exactly work as they should

So like

remember Day 1

a lot of votes thrown around but on;ly like 5 counted

[Ginngie]

Honestly we can just speed play the game

With the three of us

D3: lynch one of the vigs, mom or mutant
N3: Varsoon dies because cop and stuff
D4: lynch one of the vigs, mom or mutant
N3: Either Aneninen or myself dies
D5: LyLo again with one conf!town and the other two players cross vote

That's like best case scenario

[Ginngie]

On like the 6th, I can probs spend time theory cracking but I'm still swamped with exams.

About to sleep and then wake up to study till the exam that's in 24 hours

[Ginngie]

Let’s do a mass prod lol

[Ginngie]

lol I was gonna make a cheeky scum post before day ends

[Ginngie]

saved my fuckin bacon too lmao

[Ginngie]

I'm fucking shook that they didn't sheep Elli

[Ginngie]

Like we all know he's gonna win the paragon scummy lmao

[Ginngie]

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75150

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75353

[Ginngie]

ginngie best mod evah

wat

[Ginngie]

wait

you're on to something

This was a drealz modding game

fucking duh

[Ginngie]

LOL

You really shoulda asked about what constituted a clear vote, by the way.

The only votes which counted were

exact username

votes; similarly, unvotes needed to be

exact username

in order to count, and it needed to be vote/unvote tags rather than in bold.

Asking questions to the mod was allowed! And I would have answered! In fact, when Ginngie DID ask, I DID answer! Which is how scum figured out the vote mechanics. Because she asked when nobody else did.

that auto-scumsides this, as any info they can discern is disseminated amongst them quickly while town may still be in the dark

It’s not scum sided

Town just didn’t ask fucking questions

[Ginngie]

Like y’all realize I didn’t know this vote thing either right?

[Ginngie]

And literally the towniest thing to do is go

Hey

This is how you vote correctly

You can see me multiple times almost spill how to correctly vote but that was against win condition

[Ginngie]

Well there’s your problem

[Ginngie]

I did?

Awhile ago?

I linked all the threads lol