Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[Momrangal]

Oh. My. God.

[Momrangal]

IB needs to unvote now

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I understand where this thinking and paranoia is coming from but for the love of God stop

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Even if the team doesn't know traitor, traitor almost always knows the team. Furthermore he was the only one on A50 with mastin. He's a strong player and A50 would have been in any trouble if not for dino

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It isn't even mechanics, the game scum is playing if Dino and 50 were together is just godly

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I'm thinking NM/worst

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And if it is, all the duckling has to do is fake a guilty to win

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The duck has been laying fairly low this whole time, too
Investigation aside, hes been fairly unmemorble and I don't remember any of his reactions with flipped scum

[Momrangal]

I holstered.

I forgot/didn't read the entire plan and thought I wasn't doing anything

[Momrangal]

I don't game throw as scum. If anything I pay more attention to the game as scum so that I can get stuff figured out. Idk about the whole faking a townslip thing but I wouldn't personally be writing me off based off the fact that I thought scum couldn't kill and do an action

[Momrangal]

I pay more attention as scum but like if I was someone else looking at me I would see either a genuine slip or like a tactical insertion of words because I do that all the time

[Momrangal]

I still think its NM/The worst.


I mean, unless we believe that beef can be a JKstrongman then that's the only way he could have possibly made any kill.

NM motion detect makes sense in that it's used to find town PR and I am not sure I really buy a weak cop with a hider. The crumbs are good, but if he was planning it from the get go, hose crumbs are not hard drops

[Momrangal]

I also need to do an iso thing and check up on what you're saying about the NM/beef team but i also don't think the plans have worst accounted for in any of them

[Momrangal]

If I was fake-claiming it would be way to easy to just lie and push you and win today

[Momrangal]

But entertain me, and let me know what that second scum team that it is that you see me in

[Momrangal]

If it's me and NM how did I kill N1? Strongman does not bypass a block, only protectives

[Momrangal]

If NM is my buddy he is not RB because he's confirmed Investigative. How does A50 kill N1? He's neither strongman or RB. If I'm RB, I'm still blocked so I can't have blocked math

[Momrangal]

I have another issue!

I don't see the interaction between NM/beef that you and worst talked about and in my Iso I came upon how he had CC'd her and it felt kinda... Presumptuous and like he caught someone in a lie

[Momrangal]

He being beef and her being Mastina

[Momrangal]

Hey ducks, help me out, who did you target N1?

[Momrangal]

Visiting acryon tonight
We'll know his alignment tomorrow.

marangal, thoughts on this

That's what I was looking at. Was looking to see if worst had actually targeted him, but it looked like he got lynched before he could

Pedit: I don't thing being a messenger doesnt mean I can't be a strongman or RB but it still doesn't explain how, if I'm scum, how I was able to bypass Dino

[Momrangal]

OK I MESSAGE INFBRA TONIGHT COMFIRMED

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But I still don't understand how its game winning

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If NM is my buddy he is not RB because he's confirmed Investigative. How does A50 kill N1? He's neither strongman or RB. If I'm RB, I'm still blocked so I can't have blocked math

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And I an blocked regardless so even as strongman I can't make a kill because I don't overpower blocks

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THEREFORE

NM/mom/A50 can't work

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I feel like worst is trying to weasel out of a No action

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And again, the only ones who can be strongman is me and you and I was blocked N1

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Pedit: that's to the duckling

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But at the same time I still can't be strong man unless I am also a strongman ninja because N_M was on me N2

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SO POE THE STRONGMAN IS THE DUCKLKNG

[Momrangal]

Or rb

[Momrangal]

Actually wiki says strongman bypasses blocks

So, if I was strongman I could have made the kill night one

But, N2 I was being watched by N_M and dino was still bypassed that night. The only way that could happen is if I was scum with N_M is if were scum together and that's already disproven.

I also can't be RB unless I'm scum with beef and beef is our RB but that still means I needed to make the kill N2 and I still couldn't have done so because I was tracked no where

[Momrangal]

Unless Dino is lying, the only one who could possibly be the one making all those strongman kills is The worst

Pedit: someone was still bypassed so if I was strongman it still couldn't work.

[Momrangal]

Okaayyyy

So, still the only two strongman candidates is me and the worst

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And the idea is if we no lynch tonight, and I'm confirmed messenger I can't be the strongman?

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There is a strongman or an RB somewhere in scum unless dino is lying. The only way beef can be the scum RB is if he's scum with me because he's confirmed to have blocked me and if he blocked me somehow, dino was still bypassed

[Momrangal]

I don't think beef is scum

I don't think math is scum and, from my perspective everything fits with you being scum with N_M

[Momrangal]

Not_Mafia motion detects the worst
Beefster jails InfernoBrafin
Mathdino guards InfernoBrafin
Marangal messages InfernoBrafin
the worst holsters

I feel like going with this plan but I'm gonna target one of math and beef instead. If its a worst/NM team and worst is a strongman, then infbra is dead.

Also, saying that I target one or the other gives me a 50/50 chance of getting my message through AND conftown Infbra is still alive tomorrow

[Momrangal]

Where did the scum joat idea come from?

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VOTE: N_M

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L-1 some one should hammer I think

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I'm more and more convinced that the scum team is N_M/worst. I am getting the feeling that his defense of N_M is getting weaker and weaker and hes grasping for straws to save gim

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What motherfucking guilty

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And in what world is the duckie confirmdd

[Momrangal]

He isn't defending himself. He's not doing anything and is making zero sense sure but in what world does that makes him scum?

What's the point of ignoring the small things that can't come from anywhere but a town mindset and if I'm wrong, someone needs to tell me why and how because I'm not going to see it otherwise.

No one has brought up the fact to the worst agrees that this is N_Ms meta but is still insistent on this being momra/beef. That he agrees That NM is likely scum but instead of trying to parse the only other option that makes sense, he keeps ignoring that scum read and keeps pushing the team he's pushing.

While Beef is literally just going "bleh idfk" which could be a sign that town actually feels really lost and intimidated by the possible mylo situation, no one has mentioned that duck has his sights on protecting some one he doesn't even think is town

[Momrangal]

And you're not wrong, I'm not worried about beef voting me. I was more worried to see you join him. James voting you was car more worrisome because he's going to throw his weight srlimd and Beef is not. James is far more likely to find support for your lynch than beef is mine based on personality alone.


Furthermore, the fact that he's voting me when he agrees That I'm most likely scum with him and doesn't make much sense with no one else point to the fact that he holds underlying paranoia towards my slot and that is easily seen based his actions and stances towards me thus far

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Im screaming

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MATH UR SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS LOSS SHAME ON YOU

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Legit though, I do agree with duckie scum mvp. Even when I had you pegged It was soley PoE and I didn't really have reasons to back up my read on you outside the associations.

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We also had three on NM and if beef held out s little longer IB would have hammered

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Dead thread and stuff out?

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Merf just read the dead-thread.

Tbh, buju can't blame Dino for your lynch. Honestly, I don't think anyone would have really considered it if i didn't constantly bring up my reservations regarding you. Yes dino lead it but I am why he pulled that trigger.

Also quite honestly I feel like I should have listened to Mastina but for the life of me I still don't understand how you were obv town.

That is also given, I don't understand or even know your meta in the slightest

[Momrangal]

I also should have been more concerned about A50 here considering what was going on in my scum game at the time XD

[Momrangal]

Eh maybe, maybe not. Once I get a feel for how you play things get easier.

Also I don't jive with many people but imo when things count, I can get pretty heated. You would have to ask probably nacho to get the best idea on how to read me. That isn't even something that I can tell you especially not now since I am currently exploring my new playstle