Just Play the Hits uPick - Video Killed the Radio Star

[Varsoon]

I've also outlined the world in which a town!mollie slips, too.
That part's just not convenient for your push on me, though, I guess.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think mollie is worse for trying to scumpaint Varsoon here

explain

cos varsoona came after me

which has been pointed out

for something that never happened and he doesn't know for sure is scumpainting him.

he is trying to do it to me.

explain what part do you not understand about this. plz explain this.

then we can move on to why I think he is scummy for it. but you need to explain the basics first cos there seems to be synapse lapse going on here and I am pretty sure it isn't me.

I don't understand why your tone comes off as accusatory when Varsoon's play wrt the vote thing should very much be town to everyone? Like you can get upset but you aren't thinking as I'd expect a townie to.

sooooooo saying that I received a pm that I never got is somehow townie in your eyes and not getting the phantom pm somehow makes me look worse?

NOT THE POINT
The point is if you were town I'd expect you not to be accusing Varsoon in your posts
Thinking about it I still want to lynch Espeon today though

[xRECKONERx]

Votecount 3.6

Espeonage(2)

~ hebichan(15), Gamma Emerald(26)

Varsoon(2)

~ pirate mollie(25), Espeonage(10)

Sir Elton Hercules John(2)

~ CooLDoG(10), Chara(12)

Titus(1)

~ Vaxkiller(26)

pirate mollie(1)

~ Titus(13)

Chara(1)

~ Sir Elton Hercules John(11)


Not Voting (1): Varsoon(34)

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2018-03-30 07:15:00)

[Gamma Emerald]

Varsoon(1)

~ pirate mollie(19)

ayup I have 1 vote not 2

but if I can control varsoona's funny I have a way to settle this and while I think it wld be hilarious to

me

, not sure it is best for town. I never had this role and while I understand how it works I am trying to figure it out in the most optimal way on how to use it.

I have given varsoona every single opportunity to come clean on this and he hasn't, he is ignoring my questions and now vax's to him.

explain how this is in any way a town mindset.

while you are at it explain how my reaction is scummy. varsoona is accusing me of something that never happened. <--- how the fuck is that townie and how the fuck does that make me scum?

but you know what? lets test this theory out. I am gonna find out.

varsoona votes gamma emerald

do you know whats great about this? its that I have a confirmable role.

I thought Elton stole your vote though
as for why your reaction is scummy, which is

the initial argument

, it's that you're not trying to find town motivation in what Varsoon did at all.
Also can someone interpret Espeon's posts and tell me if that vote makes sense for him?
PEdit: haha get fucked mollie

[pirate mollie]

Scum motivation to lie about having the vote is so that you can continue to push a scum-led narrative that Venmar lightning rodded everyone. As of right now, scum motivation to lie would be preservation of your life.

uhm, no

there is zero benefit to lying about having your vote which I don't have btw. I checked.

if you believe that all actions went to venmar, (which has already been proven wrong, evidence does not support it) then how wld I know if your vote was for 1 day or 1 week. <----- this is why your accusation doesn't add up.

I think you royally fucked up at the start of the day and your desperately trying to deflect off of your mistake.

occam's razor: I didn't get a pm saying I had your vote.

when you try to argue out of occam's razor you mist spread and that is exactly what you are trying to do.

mine is a confirmable town role.

I am giving this a tiny window of time for some1 to argue why and how varsoona is town. cos I am gonna look really dumb and it may hurt the game if I am.

[Varsoon]

I think there's plenty of benefit to lying. I wouldn't know all them, I'm not scum. Burden of proof is not on me.
I don't believe that all actions went to Venmar.
Facts are that you said my vote was only gone for the day when there was literally no indication of that and I was very specific that it was gone all game.
Occam's razor: You know it's only gone for the day. The only reason you could know that is if you or a scum-buddy got my vote. Only reason not to come forward about having my vote is if you're scum.
I've got a great argument for my being town: It says so on my fucking role PM, which will flip soon enough anyway because there's no way scum lets an IC with an extra positive unused ability live.

However, my vote is still for Espeon.
Figuratively, of course.
VOTE: Espeonage

I also don't get mollie being so accusatory if town. We've both been at each other's necks in towngames before, iirc--I think last time was Clue Mafia 2, but the way I'm being treated here doesn't feel like that.

[pirate mollie]

I've also outlined the world in which a town!mollie slips, too.
That part's just not convenient for your push on me, though, I guess.

where did you do this? all I am getting from you is that I made a slip that never actually took place. cos i don't have your vote. I checked. which explains why never got a pm saying that I did, doesn't?

how is it a slip if I didn't know that you gave me your vote in the first place?

occam's razor buddy. occam's razor. its nearly always scum who come up with imaginary scenarios on something that never took place.

hot take on gamma rn

gogogogo

[pirate mollie]

I think there's plenty of benefit to lying. I wouldn't know all them, I'm not scum. Burden of proof is not on me.
I don't believe that all actions went to Venmar.
Facts are that you said my vote was only gone for the day when there was literally no indication of that and I was very specific that it was gone all game.
Occam's razor: You know it's only gone for the day. The only reason you could know that is if you or a scum-buddy got my vote. Only reason not to come forward about having my vote is if you're scum.
I've got a great argument for my being town: It says so on my fucking role PM, which will flip soon enough anyway because there's no way scum lets an IC with an extra positive unused ability live.

However, my vote is still for Espeon.
Figuratively, of course.
VOTE: Espeonage

I also don't get mollie being so accusatory if town. We've both been at each other's necks in towngames before, iirc--I think last time was Clue Mafia 2, but the way I'm being treated here doesn't feel like that.

there is no benefit to lying about that. and now it looks like you shifting the goal posts cos I just punched a hole in your case against me.

I am

town

. a have a confirmable role.

[pirate mollie]

also

to all the peeps I have played with before: have I ever NOT gone after some1 as town? varsoona is saying I don't. I thought pple disliked playing with me cos Itend to tunnel, have I been wrong all this time and that isn't what I actually do?

[Varsoon]

I mean, there's here...

Do you think mollie would have, as town, missed my insistence that my vote was gone all day?

...and here...

There's no reason why you, who SHOULD have my vote and is a good player, would misread and say it was only for the day when I was VERY SPECIFIC about it being FOR THE WHOLE GAME.

If you genuinely misread and slipped in this situation as town, then I'm sorry, but I hold you in pretty high regards as a player who wouldn't make a mistake like that.

But nevermind those posts, right? Keep insisting there's no benefit to lying when literally right now lying is the only thing keeping you from being confirmed as hiding the fact you had my vote/ie- a scum claim.

Your slip did take place, too.

I thought you cldn't vote today varsoona

There is literally no way to publicly confirm that you do not have my vote. You can only possibly confirm if you do have my vote.
HOWEVER, the INFORMATION that my vote was only lost for TODAY is information someone could ONLY HAVE if they had my vote.
You keep bringing up Occam's Razor but the situation is literally you caught in saying something you shouldn't have known.
This is literally THE fucking 'slip' trope in detective fiction: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... tWasPoison
Literally:
Me: "Well, I can't vote for the whole game."
Me, 100 posts later: "Vote: Espeonage"
Mollie: "I thought you couldn't vote today."
Me: "I never said I couldn't vote only today."

I could definitely see how mollie might mean 'today' as "You can't vote today or any day, for that matter," but mollie hasn't defended the slip as such at all.

[Sir Elton Hercules John]

so I'm guessing that mollie would have two votes... or something...? if I hadn't used my ability on her

I'm disappointed that we're living in the reality where mollie still gets a vote but that's how it is I guess

[pirate mollie]

I am dipping into my reserves but goddamn.

I don't have your vote. plain and simple.

I, along with 3 pple who have said this, thought you meant just this day round.

if I had your vote you wld be voting yourself rn. why? because it wld be funny. also it wld you get to stfu cos I am tired of this whole dumb argument. there are 2 pple I want to hear from but I wld like to hear what other pple say too cos regardless, there is gonna fish a whole lot of info to be gained from this if I get nked.

in other words, I am done talking to you.

[Gamma Emerald]

also

to all the peeps I have played with before: have I ever NOT gone after some1 as town? varsoona is saying I don't. I thought pple disliked playing with me cos Itend to tunnel, have I been wrong all this time and that isn't what I actually do?

This is not the same play I saw in Walking Dead s2e1, but wrt to the question I don't think you tunneled in that game, your only major push was a guilty I feel, pls correct if wrong

[Espeonage]

also

to all the peeps I have played with before: have I ever NOT gone after some1 as town? varsoona is saying I don't. I thought pple disliked playing with me cos Itend to tunnel, have I been wrong all this time and that isn't what I actually do?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I'm sorry but unless anyone points out how the espeonage posts point to his read changing on varsoon I'm not buying it

[Vaxkiller]

Like, it's kinda weird how mollie votes someone, the Elton comes in and says he took her vote then she unvotes before a VC. Why?

[Vaxkiller]

@Varsoon

Why did you choose pirate mollie with that ability?

[CooLDoG]

vote: espe

that will be l-1

[Chara]

intent to hammer! i think Espeon's given up.

[Espeonage]

[CooLDoG]

I mean, honestly, go ahead and just do it chara. Like, the above post can't be from town.. His negative should have redirected. kill with fire.

[Vaxkiller]

I want to hear from Varson and Elton on why they targeted Mollie. Elton has kinda said, but I want an elaboration. There is weirdness there I want to talk and think about before a hammer.

[Vaxkiller]

In case I was not clear.

DO NOT HAMMER YET.

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean, honestly, go ahead and just do it chara. Like, the above post can't be from town.. His negative should have redirected. kill with fire.

Mine didn't redirect, so *shrug*
Like that you're voting espe but that's not a reason

[Vaxkiller]

What was your again gamma?

Also it's silly to think the mod would create a role that seemingly blocked/redirected/DIDSOMETHING to most people except a few, and those few would be scum. (Be it the target, or the person doing the targeting)