Shenanigans (sign ups 6/6)

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WHY DON'T YOU JUST MEET ME /IN THE MIDDLE

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just a few clarifications so they don't come up:

- game usually ends when lyncher wins, game usually continues after jester win

- lyncher turns into a survivor if their target dies N1

- mafia yakuza can choose to either kill someone or kill themselves and recruit someone

- doctor protects against deaths from every source (including yakuza suicide and PGO)

- deprogrammer can self-target

- PGO still gets converted/killed if yakuza targets them

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yes

and then the mafia and their new convert get daytalk

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the setup is literally designed around some of the worst possible role interactions

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i usually just click on the most recent post

but no this is in the style of oldddd forums

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VOTE: the worst

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you can tell he's australian

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i can only assume we confirm publicly

/confirm jester

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VOTE: Mathdino

clearly scum

Edit: you're killing me here duckling

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i assumed it was you

probably iconeum

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I don't like the fake jester game.

i mean it's not like i can get away with doing it on any other subforum without making an alt with a meta of being stupid and doign policy lynch worthy things

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HOW COULD AUSUKA POSSIBLY KNOW IM FAKING IT WITHOUT BEING THE JESTER HIMSELF OH HO HO

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i claim lyncher on ausuka

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thanks N

VOTE: N

you're a real pal

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@CT: literally all of them

ninja'd

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hey N are you the jester

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hardclaim lyncher on northsidegal

UNVOTE:

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okay N confirmed not jester

i'm like 50% sure iconeum is actually the jester tbh

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iconeum doesn't deserve the win after vengekilling me ;(

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so if n is not the jester why'd you unvote

you want to lynch the jester?

nah i just don't want the yakuza quickhammering and converting away their problems tonight

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also lowkey kinda if the jester is anyone other than iconeum

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are you counterclaiming my theory that iconeum is himself the jester

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hold my beer while i metadive ausuka marathon games

thinking on-N-wagon is our best bet

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iconeum doesn't deserve the win after vengekilling me ;(

So are you actively going to mislead me this game? Because I intend to hard townread you and just coast the win here

Also, I hardclaim I'm not the jester

if you're not the jester then you're probably the ideal lynch

i could actually be down with just lynching N though anyway lol

he's not jester and the only way he's a lynchee is if iconeum is the lyncher

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VOTE: N

sure

CT probably claimed lyncher there

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if those are what wisdom's reads are then we're not getting the N lynch

wanna just lynch the lyncher and hope for the fuckin best

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ooh i have a great idea

let's just have you two crosskill

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ico is in no way playing like scum lol

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WAIT IS CHEEKY THE JESTER THOUGH

:THINKING:

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ausuka the only way i can see you having the reads of CT/Ico both scum is if you're countercounterclaiming PGO

if so, that's probably necessary info at this point

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Jester is like the last thing I would be this game.

wait, you got to choose your role??

what the fuck is this post

how do we read anyone

what is life

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okay so scum is

- one of icon/cheeky (probably lyncher)
- N (probably jester)
- one of ausuka/wisdom (probably yakuza)

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ausuka
yusuka
yukusa
yukuza
yakuza

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ausuka why are you arguing so hard that you're not the jester

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okay so scum is

- one of icon/cheeky (probably lyncher)
- N (probably jester)
- one of ausuka/wisdom (probably yakuza)

that post basically says everyone can be scum

in a game where there are 2 other townies and one of them is basically confirmed iconeum

yes, yes it does

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iconeum do an ISO of ausuka and N and tell me which one of them is seriously more likely to be the jester

in the meantime, given scum between ausuka/wisdom, ausuka arguing he's not the jester is clearly not what mafia would want to do

VOTE: Wisdom

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I still think the town team is {Math, Ico, Aus} and that Wis is the yakuza.

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iconeum

i'll lynch cheeky tomorrow if you vote wisdom

cheeky

i'll lynch iconeum tomorrow if you vote wisdom

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i still consider your face more likely as jacuzzi

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okay yeah wisdom is 100% vying for cheeky's support here

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i don't know how i expected this game to turn out lol

the more town are publicly confirmed town, the less likely it is we can get a lynch on scum

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?!?!?

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this setup in a nutshell

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ffs

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we could just give N a win to get past this deadlock

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VOTE: N

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the fact this couldn't get to a lynch yesterday when we really needed it proves this is scum.
the game might be lost but it also might not.

does it really look to you like we're getting that lynch tho

also i just remembered N was confirmed not the jester so all that speculation that N is the jester is utter trash

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wait a second so who the fuck is the fucking jester then if N is confirmed to not be it

CT viable jester but then who's the lyncher

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okay so what's clear then is that jester is in Icon/CT confirmed because wisdom is playing anti-jester wincon and ausuka may or may not be

ausuka if you're townreading N, then i can't also be town

pick between townreading me and townreading him

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hey guys quick headcount who here is willing to lynch ausuka raise your hand

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now would probably be a good time to tell you guys that i protected ausuka last night

i may or may not have thrown the game if he decided to literally kill himself

but if he didn't, then ausuka was the nightkill for some reason

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really surprised wisdom didn't CC me tbh

but yeah ausuka either killed himself or was the nightkill

it's probably better to assume he didn't kill himself right

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now would probably be a good time to tell you guys that i protected ausuka last night

i may or may not have thrown the game if he decided to literally kill himself

but if he didn't, then ausuka was the nightkill for some reason

you are pushing someone who has pretty much 50/50 to be conf not yakuza?

not 50/50 but

i did the headcount to see if anyone is even willing to lynch ausuka today

if literally no one is, probably implies he picked up a mafia recruit and i fucked up

Edit: *herself
sorry

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Oh wait no NK means someone was recruited that was a doc? Right? So now Math and Ausuka could be scum??

this is actually hilarious

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why the everliving fuck would ausuka kill herself and recruit me when people are clearly willing to lynch me

correct play for ausuka is to convert the PGO

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iconeum who even is the jester

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if icon is lyncher that forces jester to be ausuka or wisdom

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It's a legit question you said if someone doc'd the yakuza then there would be 2 scum. Which means Ico isn't scum? So wtf are you claiming me role for dude? Are YOU the jester?

wait are you counterclaiming doctor too now

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wisdom you need to hammer N then

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like i'm serious town is confirmed to be you/me and the PGO from your POV

town you must hammer N who is confirmed not jester

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iconeum do you give a shit that wisdom isn't hammering N

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HOT TAKE: Wisdom is lyncher, Cheeky is jester, Ausuka is yakuza

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UNVOTE:

still claim tho

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wisdom can't hammer here despite the fact that town-wisdom MUST hammer logically

wisdom has played anti-jester wincon

and if he were mafia, he'd welcome the mislynch

therefore must be lyncher who still needs to fk up his target

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It's okay to be wrong Math aka Lyncher.

how the hell can you possibly believe i'm a lyncher at this point

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N you need to claim

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Pedit no shit people I'm mad at him and want him to wake up to his bad reads.

50/50 chance that iconeum isn't the PGO

1/3 chance iconeum is actually even the mafia

why should i ever try to resolve the you/ico situation today

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VOTE: N

enough.

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this is our lynch today ausuka, you know N is mafia or lyncher from your pov

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ausuka if you're town you're actually just throwing rightn ow by not voting N who is confirmed scum to you

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ausuka is clearly not town

if town is N then fucking lol

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ausuka the town is 3 fucking people

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cheeky if you're actually town here

nice going

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if iconeum was a lyncher on N then yeah the game would be over with lyncher/town win

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so unless i'm literally the only townie left, i think it's safe to say that ausuka is not in fact the yakuza

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ausuka counterclaims

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wait, you mean to tell me that I'm not the yakuza???? after N literally flipped yakuza???? man, that's crazy!

N1. Ausuka suicides, converts N, is saved by Math.
N2. Ausuka suicides again, converts Wisdom, is saved by Math again.

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look if you're the yakuza i'm seriously just gonna keep saving you so you can convert me so yeah

Edit: i have no idea but i'm pretty confident now you're not yakuza

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Wisdom has also been trying to lynch me the whole game.

wat

wisdom has literally been calling you jester the whole game

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was wisdom ever at L-1?

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i hate to say it but iconeum's right here

wisdom can't possibly be jester, so jester is either ausuka, cheeky, or icon (who is currently trying to lynch the most likely person to get lynched today)

it's probably cheeky

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uh math

n didnt recruit anyone since he didnt die, no?

i'm speculating that ausuka was the original yakuza and he turned N into one

but that's probably crazy and i'll just keep protecting ausuka just in case

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also yeah cheeky/ausuka confirmed scum

ausuka didn't even cc

VOTE: Cheeky

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UNVOTE:

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uh math

n didnt recruit anyone since he didnt die, no?

i'm speculating that ausuka was the original yakuza and he turned N into one

but that's probably crazy and i'll just keep protecting ausuka just in case

wait yakuza's target becomes a yakuza? not just mafia?

SHENANIGANS

look it doesn't matter

why does cheeky-lyncher decide to call iconeum the jester today

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ausuka claim your role please

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UNVOTE:

Would a lyncher steal my role?

these posts were 12 seconds apart

cheeky jester obviously self-hammers in this situation

but would've been caught by the pedit

could she have typed that up in those 10 seconds

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wisdom claim your night actions?

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I MEAN I SENT A NIGHT ACTION AND THE MOD TOLD ME NOTHING SOOOOOOOO

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Wisdom: Confirmed not jester.

Iconeum: Almost definitely not jester.

Cheeky: Likely not jester unless she voted herself, pedited, and typed up a new post in 10 seconds.

Ausuka: Must then be jester.

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iconeum, if scum, is the jester

cheeky, if scum, is the lyncher

wisdom, if scum, is the lyncher

ausuka, if scum, is the jester

this is where i'm at

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so convince me that wisdom is the lyncher in 8 minutes

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This thing where I tried to get myself lynched just never happened. I have only played like town this game, not any other role. I haven't made any attempt to get myself lynched and I have always treated being lynched as a bad thing to avoid.

as someone who played jester in this setup before

this is good jesterplay

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while we're at it, scum"team" is either iconeum/wisdom or cheeky/ausuka

you're welcome

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iconeum, if scum, is the jester

cheeky, if scum, is the lyncher

wisdom, if scum, is the lyncher

ausuka, if scum, is the jester

this is where i'm at

Yes! Cheeky is the jester. Wisdom is the lyncher.

cheeky isn't self-hammering!!!

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ausuka iconeum must be the jester from your POV

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VOTE: Cheeky

ok

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first time this setup was run, lyncher won alone

second time, jester and mafia won

third time's the charm i guess

it's surprisingly balanced

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cheeky i would consider not claiming scum next time when i ask you to convince me someone else is scum

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yes

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this game is on lock actually

the only way for town to avoid deadlock is for the jester to claim so the town can lynch them

then we lynch the lyncher in 3p lylo

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JESTER PLEASE CLAIM, TOWN CAN ONLY WIN WITH JESTER WIN AS WELL

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VOTE: Icon

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the fact that you refuse to vote icon with me is a scumclaim

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no, i won as jester with this setup before

it only ends the game if the lyncher's target is the jester

and that's clearly not the case

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i mean if we'd actually picked correctly yesterday, i'd get 2 nightless phases to choose between ausuka/wisdom

so that was technically bad for us

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WAIT FUCKING LOL WAS ICON THE LYNCHER THE WHOLE TIME

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iconeum right now

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ausuka played a good game

VOTE: Ausuka

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ausuka you played fine lol

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and lol at iconeum vaguely lowkey gamethrowing by not immediately self-hammering

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this is the first town win in this setup

like i said, surprisingly balanced

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that feel when i should've just not protected anyone on N1

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actually holy shit the only person the doc should be protecting is the deprogrammer

protecting anyone else is strictly anti-town

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yeah deprog self-targeting is bad

unless you want to create a meta of self-targeting as deprog which will prevent you from getting lynched every time the yakuza sacrifices

pretty sure it's only +EV for deprog to target the doc

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LOL I WAS THE ONLY TOWNIE WHO ACTUALLY SCUMREAD N

GG MAFIA

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ah yeah i forgot about that

so yeah deprog should go with most likely recruit

doc should go for claimed deprogs really

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Thanks for modding all those games for us, worst. I really appreciate it.