2018 NFL Football

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #16 (isolation #0) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:47 am

I wonder if the Browns will have a chance at the playoffs a la the Philadelphia 76ers and Las Vegas Golden Knights.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:07 pm

Patriots/Jags/Raiders/Eagles/Vikings/Rams
WC: Bills/Browns Seahawks/Panthers

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:14 am

I think they should take Allen since Carson Wentz came from a smaller school and lead the Eagles to the playoffs in his second year. Allen seems to have a similar football IQ to Wentz. Big 5 players have tougher schedules but they also get hit more and are products of QB factories that may or may not be reflective of QBs true talent.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #35 (isolation #3) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:35 am

Allen may be the most likely bust but he also has the most likely upside. There are a lot of quarterbacks out there competing for starting positions and you don't want to waste a top 5 pick on a qb that will be a backup for most of his career or worse.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #49 (isolation #4) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:57 pm

Last heisman trophy winner to win a super bowl was Charles Woodson from the 1998 draft, the last #1 pick heisman trophy winner to win a super bowl was George Rodgers from 1981. So I don't think this was a great pick from the Browns. They should have gone with Josh Allen.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #69 (isolation #5) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:20 pm

I've got nothing against Mayfield but the record for Heisman Trophy winners as #1 overall picks is not good.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #72 (isolation #6) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:37 pm

Winston, Newton, Bradford, Palmer...all heisman trophy winners picked #1. None have yet to win a Super Bowl.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #74 (isolation #7) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:53 pm

In post 73, PJ. wrote:
In post 72, TwoInAMillion wrote:Winston, Newton, Bradford, Palmer...all heisman trophy winners picked #1. None have yet to win a Super Bowl.
1 of those guys was really good though. And 1 of them is currently really good. The other the jury is still out on. And Bradford is an above average starter when he isn't hurt.

And in 17 years only 10 QBs have won a super bowl. In 13 in 20. 7 of those 13 are either in the Hall of Fame or guaranteed to be in the Hall of Fame. It's a very weird thing to measure success solely by whether or not you won a super bowl or not.

I'm pretty sure Cleveland wants to win a Super Bowl. Maybe I'm wrong.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #76 (isolation #8) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:58 pm

I didn't say early round, I said specifically overall #1 pick and heisman trophy do not mix historically. Just based on history. If a super bowl ring is your goal.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #78 (isolation #9) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:07 pm

In post 77, Nero Cain wrote:Sure but avoiding a QB just b/c they won a Heisman b/ OMG history seems like a dumb thing to do. Football is a team sport so you could still be a good QB and not win a SB if the team is bad but if you are picking #1 you don't have that good of team anyways so...

Not really, just like you shouldn't take a kicker with the #1 overall pick. Mayfield could end up winning 10 super bowls. Just my prediction he won't.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #100 (isolation #10) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:07 pm

LA Rams 10-6
Seattle 9-7
San Fransisco 9-7
Arizona 7-9

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #102 (isolation #11) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:55 pm

Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll could win 8 games a season all by themselves.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #115 (isolation #12) » Tue May 01, 2018 2:23 pm

Arizona is easily the worst team in the conference. They might be decent but the NFC West is probably the strongest conference in the league.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #117 (isolation #13) » Tue May 01, 2018 2:34 pm

Based on what, their 5-4-1 record their last 10 games against each other?

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #119 (isolation #14) » Tue May 01, 2018 5:10 pm

We still have Dion Jordan, Bobby Wagner, Shaquil Griffin, Byron Maxwell, Earl Thomas, and Kam Chancellor on defense. That would be decent by most people's standards. I bet we are still in the top half of the league. And since the whole offense is build around Russell Wilson I don't think the OLine is the highest priority. You can't have everything.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #121 (isolation #15) » Tue May 01, 2018 6:54 pm

I agree we aren't going to win the division. But I think we are still a decent team.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #158 (isolation #16) » Fri May 25, 2018 11:42 am

I think calling society a "white supremesist society" is an oversimplification. Society has made a lot of progress in race relations the past 60 years. Using sports as a platform for social change is one thing, but just because fans don't want to be reminded of racial injustice everytime they sit down to enjoy a game doesn't make them racist. Moreover, Black Lives Matter's egotism and lack of support for any other racial minority doesn't make it seem like they want change for society, just change for themselves, which is fine, but I don't think most of society is interested in social warfare at this point in history.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #162 (isolation #17) » Sun May 27, 2018 1:24 pm

That's dumb, NFL teams shouldn't be punished for not wanting to alienate fans.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #172 (isolation #18) » Sun May 27, 2018 5:08 pm

In post 164, PJ. wrote:
In post 162, TwoInAMillion wrote:That's dumb, NFL teams shouldn't be punished for not wanting to alienate fans.
Fans should be less racist.

Maybe the players should find a forum to voice their social concerns where their jobs aren't at stake.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #178 (isolation #19) » Mon May 28, 2018 8:39 am

I know the point of the protests, but there is a risk involved when you are going to do something that is going to upset a significant amount of people.

You can't just say anti-protesters are racist and protesters have no fault and that everyone should just give into every demand they have. The NFL is not responsible for social injustice so it's not fair to make them responsible for it or to use their field as a platform.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #180 (isolation #20) » Mon May 28, 2018 10:08 am

It is if their employers ask them to. If I do something in my job that brings negative attention to the company I would get fired immediately.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #185 (isolation #21) » Mon May 28, 2018 2:38 pm

In post 183, PJ. wrote:I don't think he's a liberal.

I'm a Clinton voting libertarian.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #187 (isolation #22) » Mon May 28, 2018 3:07 pm

In post 186, PJ. wrote:i don't think you know what that word means. Or you're a hypocrite. feel free to pick

I think you're a prick, but who's asking.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #189 (isolation #23) » Mon May 28, 2018 3:18 pm

nope I'm not a racist. I know liberals like to paint anyone who's not a communist as a racist bit it's not true.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #190 (isolation #24) » Mon May 28, 2018 3:20 pm

In post 188, PJ. wrote:Okay, I admit it, I'm a prick. But are you going to admit you're a racist?

Also like...at least Google what a libertarian is.

In post 174, PJ. wrote:Also..why is "police should treat white people and black people the same" a controversial enough topic for it to possibly cost a player their job in the first place?
I'd still like an answer to this, by the way.

because n f l fans write the players paychecks. maybe in a perfect society it wouldn't be that way but it is.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #195 (isolation #25) » Mon May 28, 2018 3:56 pm

In post 192, PJ. wrote:What does communism have to do with you being against black people using their freedom of speech to protest police brutality against minorities?

That's my point. social justice isn't just about blacks but you would think it was. the me too movement, for example, is far more effective and appropriate.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #196 (isolation #26) » Mon May 28, 2018 4:01 pm

In post 194, PJ. wrote:And like...you're an angry fan. It's you. You're part of the problem. Why does guys peacefully protesting for "police shouldn't shoot minorities" make you so mad?

well I guess if you say I'm the problem it's true. I think police should be more careful in using force but I would guess there are reasons for tension between blacks and police besides racism.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #198 (isolation #27) » Mon May 28, 2018 4:05 pm

In post 197, T-Bone wrote:You are still the type of person who needs to see these protests every single week.

yep because there's only one side to the argument.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #200 (isolation #28) » Mon May 28, 2018 4:13 pm

In post 199, T-Bone wrote:What argument? There is no argument. You are in the class of people who needs to be reminded of racial injustices by the police until you either A) get it or B) reveal yourself to be the racist you claim you aren't. There is no C, there is no D, there is no E, F, G, H and so on and so forth. And since you watch the NFL, that seems like a good as place as any for you to be reminded of these things.

Unless you mean to tell me you would actually consider these issues, if only you saw them somewhere else.

Except...no you wouldn't because you like to trash black people protesting because they aren't inclusive enough.

I understand there are social justice issues in America. I don't think anyone who doest want to be subjected to protests should be labeled racist or part of the problem.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #202 (isolation #29) » Mon May 28, 2018 4:16 pm

That's fine but without NFL fans there would be no NFL product. I'm not disagreeing with you on principal.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #206 (isolation #30) » Mon May 28, 2018 7:31 pm

it's not harmless. people are taught to stand for the anthem and respect the flag for a reason. the nation as a whole is not the problem and the military is not the problem. That's what the anthem is for. I respect what the protestors are fighting for but they are protesting the wrong thing in the name of publicity.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #217 (isolation #31) » Tue May 29, 2018 9:11 am

I'm pretty sure no one shoots anyone 'for shits and giggles'. At least not 99% of people. That's just an ignorant statement.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #220 (isolation #32) » Tue May 29, 2018 10:39 am

So why is it wrong to encourage people to be respectful to the flag and national anthem? Patriotism is not a bad thing. Those wanting to be patriotic are not bad people. Wanting equality is not bad either but there has to be a middle ground or another way.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #222 (isolation #33) » Tue May 29, 2018 10:45 am

There are a lot of people that disagree with you.

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #224 (isolation #34) » Tue May 29, 2018 10:55 am

You appear to be wrong...

During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.

http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html

TwoInAMillion · Post Post #226 (isolation #35) » Tue May 29, 2018 11:39 am

In post 225, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 224, TwoInAMillion wrote:You appear to be wrong...

During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.

http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html
so are you as offended when your neighbors leave their flag out at night without illumination?

I'm sure some parts of the code are more important than others. Standing during the anthem is taught and encouraged. Keeping the flag lit at night is not.