Touhou UCanPick 5 - [Game Over]

[Kiana Kaslana]

Flavor claim: I'm stage 4 Imperishable Night: Reimu Hakurei.

Also, <3. This was one of my picks.

[Sky_Paladin]

@Katy

I kind of just want to eviscerate everyone outside of you lexa and gamma though if we can honestly

hmm

Why should we town read Lex/gamma?

@Kiana
I feel like there are four scum. I can't quantify that feeling. It just feels too easy with three scum.

[Sky_Paladin]

It was either Reimu or Cirno for me; but I was scared I would get a 'target a player - everybody else who visits that player dies' type from Cirno, and I didn't want to have to deal with it.

My wife cosplayed as Reimu recently so my decision was forced.

[Sky_Paladin]

I mean yes there were other picks but I knew I was one of the first sign-ups and I was like 99% sure Gaiden would pick Suika because - ALWAYS Suika.

My other picks were Youmu/Alice/Keine.

[Katyusha]

Gamma’s been like his town self - quirky nonsense reads and OMGUSy I guess. He’s usually very flippant as town in a way he’s not as scum from experience

Lexa’s walls are all super awesome and Eddie has told me in the past they have a bad scumgame and considering I’ve usually identified her as scum from like 1 or 2 posts in games with her I’ve watched I’m inclined to agree

If there’s four scum I don’t even know where to begin

[Kiana Kaslana]

@Katy

I kind of just want to eviscerate everyone outside of you lexa and gamma though if we can honestly

hmm

Why should we town read Lex/gamma?

Yeah, I'm on the same page with you, though I can see the Lexa townread a little more clearly than Gamma so I felt it was a little invasive to ask. I don't understand Katy's position of putting Lexa and Gamma and stronger townreads over me in many of the readslists she's made. Care to explain?

I just want to get a feel for what you're thinking here.


With regard to 3 or 4 scum; we have precedents from the Team Mafia setups that there are 15 players and it goes 12:3. However if there are 4 scum this game becomes significantly more problematic.

It wasn't too easy; it's just that in this game we were just good and scum was just bad. I really wonder who the remaining scum is.

[Katyusha]

Like I’ve been positive all game/D2 that no one in {Gamma, Lexa, Dunn} flips scum, Kiana is like 90% town but I don’t have meta that backs me up, the tell on Purrcs is kind of shaky as well

[Kiana Kaslana]

Gamma’s been like his town self - quirky nonsense reads and OMGUSy I guess. He’s usually very flippant as town in a way he’s not as scum from experience

Lexa’s walls are all super awesome and Eddie has told me in the past they have a bad scumgame and considering I’ve usually identified her as scum from like 1 or 2 posts in games with her I’ve watched I’m inclined to agree

If there’s four scum I don’t even know where to begin

So, all meta. I haven't played with Lexa before so you'll have to excuse me -- I'll only have evidence to discern her alignment from what they have posted in this game; it's been admittedly good, but I don't suppose I feel as strongly about her locktown status as you do.

As for Gamma Emerald I indeed have played games with him but mainly towngames. I'll take a look at his ISO to see what you mean.

Of course, by pure probability they are indeed both town, but considering that I was wrong about TG which was really annoying for me personally, I need to question any assumptions just to make sure that we aren't giving any undeserved locktown statuses. Hope you understand.

[Kiana Kaslana]

Like, the fact that you're having Gamma / Lexa as 100% town and me as

only

90%

because meta

is pretty

[Katyusha]

Yeah no I get you

I probably should relook things over but I’m kind of out of it rn

Pedit: lol I’m a meta reliant player and I’ve heard good things about you as a player so

[Kiana Kaslana]

Well, considering that I've only been on this site for only 2 months, I don't have meta to use! In fact, I'm an extremely non-meta reliant player, so, I have extremely accurate reads even without the use of meta, unless it's necessary for certain exceptional players like Creature.

I'm glad to hear that! Though, you could have seen it yourself in that Newbie Game you replaced me in!

[Sky_Paladin]

I think you should trust your instincts, Kiana. I have not been paying sufficient attention to the game to have a strong feeling about the number of scum My thought is just that with 15 players I would anticipate 4 scum.

But I have not factored in the high number of kills available; my heart says that some of these vigs must be scum controlled. But I can't rationalise it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like I’ve been positive all game/D2 that no one in {Gamma, Lexa, Dunn} flips scum, Kiana is like 90% town but I don’t have meta that backs me up, the tell on Purrcs is kind of shaky as well

I think that Kiana should be above me and Lexa at this point because iirc she's spewed by two scum as town
also I have a thought that's simmering in my mind

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you should trust your instincts, Kiana. I have not been paying sufficient attention to the game to have a strong feeling about the number of scum My thought is just that with 15 players I would anticipate 4 scum.

But I have not factored in the high number of kills available; my heart says that some of these vigs must be scum controlled. But I can't rationalise it.

I'll note vigs are considered at least somewhat anti-town in normals so one being scum-held isn't that much of a thing that needs to happen for balancing

[Purrcocet]

also I have a thought that's simmering in my mind

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah about that (thanks for reminding me)

@MOD is it possible for players to have permanent passive roles?

[Purrcocet]

[FakeGod]

yeah about that (thanks for reminding me)

@MOD is it possible for players to have permanent passive roles?

No one has any powers except one spell card each.

Maybe there are spell cards that grant you permanent passive roles? That I cannot confirm or deny.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 3.1

SXTLHGaiden [0] -
Sky_Paladin [0] -
Kiana Kaslana [0] -
Katyusha [0] -
Lexa [0] -
DaLetterEl [0] -
Elbirn [0] -
hebichan [0] -
Purrcocet [0] -
Gamma Emerald [0] -

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- SXTLHGaiden, Sky_Paladin, Kiana Kaslana, Katyusha, Lexa, DaLetterEl, Elbirn, hebichan, Purrcocet, Gamma Emerald

With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-04-13 15:00:00)

[Katyusha]

Paging DLE to talk about his vig

[Purrcocet]

@DLE

[Elbirn]

Are we going to play Mafia soon?

[Katyusha]

Are we going to play Mafia soon?

yeah we just need dle to claim so we can figure out if we have a vig today zzzz

[Kiana Kaslana]

:twiddles thumbs:

[Kiana Kaslana]

So we are waiting for Sky_Paladin, Lexa, Purrc and DLE to claim?


I need more information and the general game plan of what we are doing today before I decide if it is optimal to use my spell card. This piece of information you can have: It's unlocked at Stage 5 - Day 3, which is today. But apart from that I want to keep my power secret so that scum do not have info.

One of the considerations that I need to take into account if there are 3 scum or a possibility of 4 scum, meaning 2 scum remaining.