Turn of Camn ~FIN~

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Confirm, and blessed be pine

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Wow I didn’t even realize dgb was alive.

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hot take.

mastina/ginngie/bbmolla are all town.

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Elli is a paragon, not a Don Corleon

He did win fortnight.

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hi.

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hi i'm here and five pages behind and am not feeling like shit anymore what's up

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{mastina, ginngie, bbmolla, nsg, mathdino, parama, mulch}

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hi again!

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i mean i might be able to add you to the set

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it's the real me. I promise.

I'm not consistently high or low effort. It depends on my mood and the day and the game and a lot of other things.

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look dude i am like using this game to procrastinate doing my taxes i am maximally lazy right now

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I want to sheep pine but he's voting town right now

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no actually.

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Am I gonna be the first to point out what's wrong with the Parama's play

you mean the fact that i'm completely apathetic to the outcome of the game already and we're only like 6 hours deep? yeah

Moreso that you're just throwing out reads like nobody's business yet if I were to try and find out why you scumread those people, it gets a lot harder.


In a nutshell, you're calling people scum but there is no foundation towards it.

Do you think Parama was overtly lying earlier when he said he would be trying harder as scum?

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Pine's posts are great spew lol

There's tons that can be analyzed here based on just natural human instinct

Speaking of that,

VOTE: Centipede

I'm locking this in as scum now xD

Are there real reasons for this?

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those are some solidly bad scumreads.

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Show your work, otter.

shrug

basically everyone posting actively right now except possibly kuuhaku is town.

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So...me too? Thx!

you didn't pick me as scum, so you're basically town in my heart.

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I just wish your reads were better

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VOTE: Centipede syndrome

Elli's first post is kind of pretty awful.

And also Chara is literally saying that they will obvtown if they are wagoned so can we just wagon them more. It's likely a free read whatever happens based on the wagon. I

think

I know how to read Chara once they're under pressure and they're supposed to be really easy to read in general and reading them = a free read on elli.

Like that slot is really convenient. Focus on Chara to determine their alignment, and then if they're town, then we have Elli-town to work with as well.

Reck's tunnel on mastina is possibly scum. BB's by contrast is pretty town based on the way he's justifying it (he's also town for several other reasons). Reck's just looks like scum using it as an excuse to not give real reads. He's only declared it as a policy lynch and just said that he thinks it's a lynch on town? Which is weird because for a purported policy lynch it has jack shit momentum. I don't think he'd be this gung-ho about it as town. And I don't know his meta well so it's theoretically possible that he's literally just treating the game as completely bogged down and so is refusing to put in effort to sort people but even the reads he's given are pretty meh.

Kuuhaku is probably town now.

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I think most of the scum right now are probably sitting in the lurkers.

So let's like, not spam the thread and give the lurkers an excuse to lurk?

It should be criminal that Mulch is like one of the smallest offenders.

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Unvote

VOTE: xRECKONERx

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why didn't you vote me originally with your first post, nothing has changed between now and then

vvv false

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Here is every reference I made to mastina this game

implosion, show me on the doll where I called her town

i would buy parama as scum maybe

but im all in on the 3:10 mastina train to lynch town

choo choo mother fuckers

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Might be horribly misinterpreting that but.

The thing that changed is that 800 is a very very very town post.

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i saw a few people townreading bbmolla, but i don't really recall seeing any explanations – could you all please explain that? i really don't see that.

The way he's talked about himself is IMO not something he'd be inclined to fake. The way he's tunneled mastina looks genuine as well. Also vaguely tone I guess but don't quote me on that.

Wait implosion did you not give a fuck when I literally wrote a speech on why mastina needs to be policy lynched even if town

Must have missed it but lol no I don't.

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So let me get this straight.

You're literally saying just that we should policy lynch her for pulling slayer's gambit, when she's given reads/engaged/done tons of very readable shit since then.

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Give reads on the whole mastina wagon thanks

If this is @ me then i already have given reads on everyone on it except LLD and I don't have a read on her yet.

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Then do it literally based on the argument she provided in her first post

Her presence is -EV for town

Site wide reform is just an AtE argument for it

Do you have an actual read on her?

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I'm pretty much in my town meta. Camn is town. Math, ari, and mastina are solidly in their town meta, although I'm having some reservations about Math because I know he's a capable scum player. But there have been a few subtle things here that are making me read him town. MariaR, kuuhaku, Firebringer, and Implosion are also solid meta town treads. Same with northsidegal, although not as confident. And I really like Centipede's last post, but not going to lock them town yet.

I agree with basically this entire list sans maria. My poe pool is actually really small right now that I count the people in it (reck, shos, dgb, lld, maria).

I'm certainly wrong somewhere but alas.

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no, i didnt call mastina town

You said "I'm on the mastina train to lynch town"

What does this mean, other than you are happy lynching mastina-town? b

I believe that that isn't what you meant but idgi.

okay now that i read it again i think i get it ugh

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meh.

Unvote

I will almost certainly join the first wagon that appears that is on anyone I'm not townreading. Other than that, shrug.

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Implosion is weird, having weird feelings about him.

He's high on the EV list of Pine draft picks and low on the EV list of Alisae draft picks,

and his posts aren't really filling me with good feelings.

Very curious where this is coming from.

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I think the high level analysis of the mastina wagon that some people (read: Mulch) are attempting is the wrong way to think about this game. It's possible there's bussing or none if she's scum.

Math's vote on her is really strange the more that I think about it. It's in this place where he's calling it a policy vote and repeatedly espousing that she's the perfect policy lynch, but at the same time he seems to be half-assedly justifying why she is more likely scum than town. Which feels a bit intellectually disingenuous. But I still think a lot of his posting has been town. Like 88.

It is really interesting how divisive her wagon has been but I don't think it's especially meaningful especially in this kind of game. And also especially since I still think she's town and wagons on town are less informative. If she does flip scum at some point I'll think more about it but.

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Parama's replace out is really stupid but I still don't buy the case on him. Especially after his wall-of-things-i've-done.

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@LLD:

Implosion is weird, having weird feelings about him.

He's high on the EV list of Pine draft picks and low on the EV list of Alisae draft picks,

and his posts aren't really filling me with good feelings.

Very curious where this is coming from.

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VOTE: LLD

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Good

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Okay. I thought you were talking about some meta justification for Pine and Alisae specifically.

Unvote

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Alright I can kind of see Reck town.

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VOTE: MariaR

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@keychain I can actually see why I thought those pages from Reck were townish yesterday but it's really weak. I'm not sure if he'd be this gung-ho about being so detached from the game as scum but I think it's pretty likely for him as town.

That video is priceless.

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this game is very straightforward i'm not sure what you mean

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Exactly.

Perfectly straightforward. Pine actually chose nobody as scum, and to win, we have to figure that out before lylo.

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if it means anything ellibereth, i got incredibly hyped seeing that countdown.

Pretty sure this is the towniest post in the game so far.

Keychain's iso so far is actually pretty meh. But not scummy.

I need to remember why I'm townreading firebringer.

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I actually missed gif's ego post earlier and yeah this game is kind of surreal between that and the mastina video and the mastina dream posts. I don't mind it tbqh.

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I am solidly in the camp of "I will endorse the kingmaker plan if and only if it happens to align with my own reads"

aka the plan where it doesn't really exist de facto.

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This had better be good elli.

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Interesting.

What's your reasoning for me?

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If it's "the machine told me so" then lol.

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Implosion....I had questions!

I townread you implicitly when I said I agreed w/ Mulch's reads.

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I'm tempted to say that centipede is scum just for BoP but man I have no idea what's happening in this game anymore.

Centipede/lld/something? lld's flip on mastina makes no sense given she said she'd be happy to policy her earlier.

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???

I *think* elli shouldn't be misreading me. Could be wrong though.

If I have to place my guess, it'd be the claiming.

I don't see how that line of thought would supersede willingness to policy lynch. It's inconsistent in a scummy way.

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why are you trying to ice me out of the game? You said you weren't totally confident on me.

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ginngie i see you lying

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you know you can occasionally let other people have the joy of hammering right

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-shrug-. I'm just a vt.

VOTE: LLD