Problems with the Scummies

[Alisae]

I agree with well... All of this. And like, I kind of feel like Zor just doesn't care to get it done in a timely manor?
Like, (and I think this is safe to say), I have never once gotten a pm from Zor after the intial "you're a judge" saying
"Hurry up, you have X days to do this in" or like constant reminders to actually get things done.
Hell I even remember asking him "when is this all due by" and him saying "oh yeah...I need to set a deadline...huh..." And like, even then the deadlines were kind of longer then they needed to be?
So like, (and now this is a kinda of a rough area to talk about) where topics have barely been touched, and only contain like, 1 or 2 posts.
And all of this could have been dealt with if Zor sent out a pm telling people that they need to actually judge things.
But instead, every now and then on my steam friends list, and pretty frequently too, I see this.

Zoraster

In-Game
PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS.

And like, I bet if he wanted to, he could work on this.
But instead, the subforum dies for a month without any new progress what so ever
and most of this is maybe understandable since Zor had trouble accessing his account
But like A. Any SSC member could have taken care of it and
B. When he got it back he could have worked on moving it forward SURPRISE, NOTHING HAPPENED. WOW what a BIG SHOCKER.
(Okay well we got marathon weekend and that was fun)

Also like, there are people who are currently "judges" who
A. Haven't been "judging" and
B. Probably don't even play mafia

and like, there are probably some on the mish mash side that have to be in the group, thats fine.
But if you don't plan on actually judging or you don't even play mafia now, then why are you judging?
Like, I don't get it?

Somethings I PERSONALLY want to see is This thread moved to MD and the new nominations threads should be globalized. I feel like that would give it more exposure and there is nothing wrong with that.

But this is the biggest thing I am fed up with atm, and thinking about it makes me so angry.
Like, if you're going to try to make sure this gets done, then do it right and do it timely and follow deadlines when you set them, because I feel like the way Zoraster has approached this has been a huge slap in the face to me and anyone who cares.

[Alisae]

I mean
I would love to cover his load for him!
But I don't know if he would ever let me or anyone else for that matter

besides that yeah, I agree, Zor is doing a lot, I just feel disrespected :/

[Alisae]

This thread has been created to allow community members to make suggestions, discuss ideas, and to comment on the current Scummies procedures.

Please keep it civil. This is for productive discussion, not snarky takedowns.

Understand that while we certainly value input, ultimately the

Scummies Steering Committee

has to make the call that it believes is in the best interest of the Scummies and MS. It is not a democracy.

If you don't wish to be included in the Ceremonies, please PM this account.

This thread is not for nominations. Go here to make a nomination of a player.

Hell this isn't even linked to the new nominations thread.
Its not like anyone even SEEs this anyways because guess where its hidden?

Spoiler: GUESS WHERE I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT?

IN FACT I AM GOING TO HIDE IT BEHIND A

TAG LOL XDDDDDDD!

SITE IDEAS EVERYONE SITE IDEAS!

[Alisae]

I am sorry but I cannot get anything but angry when I think about this

[Alisae]

Compromise
Have fun awards AND serious awards.


OR what Mathdino just posted.

[Alisae]

idunno like
more exposure + that would maybe help
/shrug

[Alisae]

ywall have high expectations

[Alisae]

Best Inexperience-Challenged Player-for this one, I'm thinking more along the lines of who teaches the best and not the IC the plays the best.
Best Contribution to Mafia Discussion

Merge these too and even then its probably not an award that would get a lot of nominations.

The others are very good though.

[Alisae]

For anyone who's interested in why these awards went away, they gave their reasoning here: viewtopic.php?p=7599231#p7599231

The reaction to the removal of most of these awards wasn't positive, as you can see if you read on from that link. One of the things that came out of that discussion is that one of the reasons for the removal of those awards was that there was too much of a burden on the judges. GreyIce has a point to about people taking the awards a bit too seriously and that affected them as well. (A lurker might get carried by a town team and be rewarded with a best town performance banner; we can't allow a travesty like that to happen!)

These are awards that should come back.

Okay, let's break this down!

Best Replacement: Did Replacement Hero ever happen? If not, bring the award back. We have loads of candidates there. Make it Body of Work or Single Game.

Professor Mafia: Their reasoning is fair. That said, literally just make a Best Article award and a Best IC award. There are enough contenders for those.

Funniest/Most Enjoyable Player: This is an important award.

Best Pro-Town Team: Don't give out banners for this. Problem solved.

Best Scum Team: This should obviously be a thing. Make Don Corleone a Body of Work award again.

Community Contributor: Meh. Take it or leave it. wgeurts and KMo were really the main ones who ever did enough for this anyway.

I agree with most things with this.
Except these.
Best Replacement: I feel like I'm the only person that feels like this award shouldn't be here in the current site climate. Its not going to motivate people to replace in, the game/mod/players do that themselves. Like, I don't feel like there is someone that stands out that deserves this right away for 2017 idunno I could be wrong here.
Pro Town-Team/Scum-Team, blah blah look, here's a better suggestion. Make Don Corleone a body of work, Keep Paragon a body of work. But just make it a Best Town Performance award or a Best Scum Performance award. Don Corleone in its current state DOES include scumteams, so thats fine. But if people don't want to reward that one person that got carried by x y and z, just give nominate x, y, and z for the Best Town Performance award.

[Alisae]

I think Best Replacement is a nice touch for those that do take the time to replace. It's quite the task and it's nice to be rewarded for doing so and especially being the best at it. Especially when replacing into 100 page games. Don't tell me it's 'you should do that without any incentives in the first place!'. It's also not something to brag about, again, more so a reward.

You think this is the case.
But if it were implimented you would be like "oh...I don't really actually care tbh."

[Alisae]

Like you're saying "It's a good touch"
but let's face it
we all know you're lieing to either me or yourself when you say that its something that would get nominations

[Alisae]

Have you tried being a better pokemon?

[Alisae]

what how did those EVER go away

"The same people are being nominated for these awards year after year, so we're going to drop them".
Not joking.

Yea, I can see the logic behind this.
Being consistently good at something might hurt everyone elses confidence..

Like, who would want to be reminded that someone else is better than they are at anything?
/s

in all seriousness thats not the logic because thats a shitty arguement, if anything that would motivate them to try harder

[Alisae]

Yes it is a stupid arguement

[Alisae]

Tv shows are garbage

[Alisae]

oh ok I feel bullied now

[Alisae]

awards aren't for the recipients

after asking for clearification from raybells I agree with this.