Bad Idea Mafia: Game Over!

[Ramcius]

can we wait cop claim this time before shooting?

[Ramcius]

cop claims results, we shoot cop, with 2 night passed, we get 3 ICs (shooter and 2 green checks) or maybe some scum to shoot for tomorrow

[Ramcius]

well, try not shoot again, you already IC, so we need someone else to take shots and clear themselves

[Ramcius]

I would rather we not shoot any claimed cops for at least a day following their claim

it's not like it would make much difference - we will win by sheer numbers, we generate 1 IC a day (shooter) and scum can remove only 1 IC during night, with cop checks we simply outnumber them and after both cops dead we just shoot unconfirmed people

[Ramcius]

so, mafia, we will accept your surrender, if you want end it here and now without wasting everyone's time

[Ramcius]

kuribo, care to explain why everyone must claim cop results?

with 2 green checks from cop we'll have 3 ICs and 3 goons tomorrow + we have second cop with up to 3 checks, red check just removes 1 IC and 1 goon from pool and it'll be 2 ICs and 2 goons day after tomorrow. If mafia "accidentally" kills cop tonight, it's 4 ICs vs 3 goons and simply shooting unconfirmed people will win game

[Ramcius]

not shooting cop we have shoot random, which means we might kill other cop

also, mafia wouldn't be able fake claim cop for some funky gambit, if we agree to kill cop after claim

[Ramcius]

second cop gets 1 more check tonight, so it's +1 check either way

[Ramcius]

and randomly shooting unconfirmed people we must be very very unlucky and never hit goons for them to have some chances, assuming cops checked same people/checked dead

[Ramcius]

kuribo, care to explain why everyone must claim cop results?

with 2 green checks from cop we'll have 3 ICs and 3 goons tomorrow + we have second cop with up to 3 checks, red check just removes 1 IC and 1 goon from pool and it'll be 2 ICs and 2 goons day after tomorrow. If mafia "accidentally" kills cop tonight, it's 4 ICs vs 3 goons and simply shooting unconfirmed people will win game

Because we already had someone hip shoot a cop who never got to out his results?

I think that's pretty bad play.

exactly, that's why we kill claimed cop, other cop stays hidden and we have no way to kill him, but mafia will have take risks - gamble to shoot second cop or take out IC

[Ramcius]

hm, to make sure we get cop with 2 checks - if you are a cop and you checked dead, don't claim yet and give some time for second cop claim

[Ramcius]

Mulch, don't tempt me to shoot you

[Ramcius]

welp, only 1 IC

can i shoot him or nah?

[Ramcius]

it would be hard to do - only scum, who could shoot was first to visit better world

[Ramcius]

doesn't matter tbh, we just need 3 checks on live players from both cops and game's over, so we can wait 1 more night

and if mafia don't kill IC tonight and goes for cop - we need only 2 checks

[Ramcius]

i'll make it simple then - once we get more ICs than goons left at start of the day - game's over. We can clear people without cops - shot someone? You clear, goons can't shoot. So we just need unconfirmed people to shoot other unconfirmed people until all 3 goons down.

But first step is to get some more clears from cops, so we need real cop to claim, we shoot them, shooter will be clear, cop's results will be confirmed and we won't risk killing last cop by shooting randomly

[Ramcius]

if we get 2 checks from cop - 4 ICs vs 3 goons, and even if we don't, we will hit goons with random attacks - unconfirmed ppl pool will get smaller and smaller, but ICs numbers stay same. Maf can kill 1 IC at night, but we get new IC, when they shoot

[Ramcius]

or we could shoot Bins

[Ramcius]

we kill cop to confirm their checks, this way we won't risk killing second one, xyzzy and shooter will be IC + whoever was checked

but as i said before, we can wait 1 more night, we just need 3 checks on live people from both cops together, but how not to kill cop accidentally?

[Ramcius]

i'm sad, i had no opportunity to shoot Mulch