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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:09 pm

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In post 296, Oxy wrote:
In post 291, Quick wrote:OK, so based on these "conditions" how would you read them
0 games with fumuki plus I don't find a meta reason to scumread, and I would town lean him. (like i said in the line about him)
That is what I am asking...

If mutantdevle has 0 games with Fumuki, what does that mean about them? Why? Sorry if this was already answered.
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:13 pm

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Quick Oxy is scum before poignantchips here imo, want to vote him with me?
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:14 pm

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In post 299, Quick wrote:
In post 283, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 280, Oxy wrote: p.edit @sordicchio How did I know you would go there with your first? Am I starting to think like you???? Why is Quick a good pocket?
Tinfoil hat is a way of life, yo.

About Quick, he's loud. These are the best players to pocket, for they are hard to mislynch from scum perspective, and they can push mislynches for you and get away with it. So if Duck/NM are scum, they will give him an early townread (both of them have done this) and try to do some inception shit on him so he goes to the wrong directions
M8, it sounds like you know I am Town here. I'm half tempted to jump off NM just for this!
Read my earlier post, I'm talking about a duck/NM scumteam that are trying to pocket you. If I'm right about those two, you're town
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:15 pm

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@quick origin of my mutantdevle read:
Spoiler:
In post 123, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 117, Fumuki wrote:I need to ask again why no one is voting ceejayvinoya based on my theory....

Like...it would be the best lynching option...
Is this serious? I'm not sure if I'm blatantly missing your theory here but I ISO'd you and this is the best I could find:
In post 42, Fumuki wrote:Username specifically made to no one vote him.

Game solved guys, proceed to lynching.

VOTE: ceejayvinoya

In a side note, Happy Birthday Alonzo.
I'm assuming this is you still joking because trying to suggest that someone is scum because of a username they chose before they got their role card is just ridiculous.
In post 181, Sando wrote:Sorry you two, I disagree, but one thing occurred to me: mutant's reaction is not that of someone who's played with Fumuki before, if he has then I'd say he's probably setting it up as a mislynch. That said, if he hasn't, this strikes me as a townie respond.

Played with = scum
Not played with = town

I haven't had coffee yet and been picking up after my new puppy since 7...I'll investigate my above later today.
I love the thinking behind this. I also agree. I can't wait to hear more!

As either alignment, mutantdevle looked for that post by fumaki and was then annoyed when he found it was a troll post. If he had played with fumaki, that was scummy because he should have expected the troll. If he's scum, he realizes it's a troll because he knows fumaki is town. He doesn't get frustrated like that. So if he as never played with him, he is either town, or superb at hitting the right notes.
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:15 pm

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In post 294, the worst wrote:viewtopic.php?f=23&t=75184
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viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75173
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:17 pm

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If you want something of substance to read ISO me + lil uzi vert + nm + almost50
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:17 pm

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In post 301, the worst wrote:Quick Oxy is scum before poignantchips here imo, want to vote him with me?
No, I think I'm probably going to bed soon. Maybe tomorrow. =)
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:21 pm

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@quick oh ya there are other posts by mutantdevle like the "oh i understand he is troll" one that feed into it as well. I just didn't grab them all.
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:25 pm

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Bah but is Oxy or devle scum...hm
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:26 pm

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In post 308, the worst wrote:Bah but is Oxy or devle scum...hm
Mutant/Oxy is my second tinfoil hat theory :cool:
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:27 pm

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In post 309, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 308, the worst wrote:Bah but is Oxy or devle scum...hm
Mutant/Oxy is my second tinfoil hat theory :cool:
I dont mind tinfoil, talk me through it?

Also got some townreads?
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:30 pm

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In post 291, Quick wrote:He's an ultra vet and you are judging him way WAY too quickly.
You may want to dig into my past a wee bit deeper than the little date next to my name. My last game before this year was back in 2012, there's a reason I've got a very old join date and no-one knows me.

Also I'm a very easy town read, you're just desperate not to read me that way.

On the N_M policy lynch, so I'm semi-serious on the N_M / mutant team due to (lack of) interactions despite previously linked game. Despite N_M being null, I'm tossing up whether lynching N_M today is useful given decent chance he gets policied anyway and we get info on mutant, or vice versa, mutant flip gives us at least something non-troll on N_M.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:36 pm

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In post 303, Oxy wrote:As either alignment, mutantdevle looked for that post by fumaki and was then annoyed when he found it was a troll post. If he had played with fumaki, that was scummy because he should have expected the troll. If he's scum, he realizes it's a troll because he knows fumaki is town. He doesn't get frustrated like that. So if he as never played with him, he is either town, or superb at hitting the right notes.
Yep, sheeping the better expressed sheep of me. Did we ever discover if mutant has played with fumu before? I've finally gotten people out of house and puppy asleep so I can dig into that now.
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:39 pm

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In post 303, Oxy wrote:@quick origin of my mutantdevle read:
Spoiler:
In post 123, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 117, Fumuki wrote:I need to ask again why no one is voting ceejayvinoya based on my theory....

Like...it would be the best lynching option...
Is this serious? I'm not sure if I'm blatantly missing your theory here but I ISO'd you and this is the best I could find:
In post 42, Fumuki wrote:Username specifically made to no one vote him.

Game solved guys, proceed to lynching.

VOTE: ceejayvinoya

In a side note, Happy Birthday Alonzo.
I'm assuming this is you still joking because trying to suggest that someone is scum because of a username they chose before they got their role card is just ridiculous.
In post 181, Sando wrote:Sorry you two, I disagree, but one thing occurred to me: mutant's reaction is not that of someone who's played with Fumuki before, if he has then I'd say he's probably setting it up as a mislynch. That said, if he hasn't, this strikes me as a townie respond.

Played with = scum
Not played with = town

I haven't had coffee yet and been picking up after my new puppy since 7...I'll investigate my above later today.
I love the thinking behind this. I also agree. I can't wait to hear more!

As either alignment, mutantdevle looked for that post by fumaki and was then annoyed when he found it was a troll post. If he had played with fumaki, that was scummy because he should have expected the troll. If he's scum, he realizes it's a troll because he knows fumaki is town. He doesn't get frustrated like that. So if he as never played with him, he is either town, or superb at hitting the right notes.
I think Sando is adding extra context to that read because he can because he has the experience to pull something like that. Don't know if it is genuine or not yet.

I think, in light of seeing Fumuki's trolly nature, Mutantdevle looks bad here because the reaction looks kinda fake. Why does it look fake? Because mutants response is OTT and over dramatized. I barely saw that post by Fumuki the first time around... it must have gone through my brain and been filtered as "not important" so why mutant is doing this "ohr meh gosh, I can'tz believe this!" is kinda silly. So either mutant is the type that misinterprets things frequently or they are just Scum. Should be apparent soon enough.
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:54 pm

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In post 311, Sando wrote:
In post 291, Quick wrote:He's an ultra vet and you are judging him way WAY too quickly.
You may want to dig into my past a wee bit deeper than the little date next to my name. My last game before this year was back in 2012, there's a reason I've got a very old join date and no-one knows me.

Also I'm a very easy town read, you're just desperate not to read me that way.

On the N_M policy lynch, so I'm semi-serious on the N_M / mutant team due to (lack of) interactions despite previously linked game. Despite N_M being null, I'm tossing up whether lynching N_M today is useful given decent chance he gets policied anyway and we get info on mutant, or vice versa, mutant flip gives us at least something non-troll on N_M.
Don't mix PL and reads. Either PL or don't. Don't mix the two.
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:03 pm

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In post 160, pinturicchio wrote:VOTE: Not_Mafia
For some reason I always end up scumreading these early votes on NM. It's such an easy place to start because in every game NM is considered a 'good' D1 lynch
In post 226, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 213, the worst wrote:I threw up in my mouth a little bit Quick is right!!

Town can be: me Quick Sando Fumuki for now :]

Pinkchurros what are you thinkin
I remember Quick being less serious in our last game together, although he replaced in there so I don't know how he plays at the start of a game, but him being so serious at an RVS state pings me (the whole Fuckyouandme situation seems odd)

I'm scumleaning mutant, meta reasons

I like you and Sando, with Oxy a little behind

Korina I don't where he at but he will be sorted

Miltank unsortable and seems that he's happy with that meta

I can't remember who else is playing
'scumleaning mutant for reasons that I shall not explain here'
'I don't have a read on Korina but I'll post that anyway'
'I don't have a read on NM but I'll post that anyway'
In post 228, pinturicchio wrote:Yeah he seems town, but idk I'm not convinced yet
'Lets not get this town circle going to fast, shall we?'

VOTE: pintu
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:10 pm

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Yo Ico

Who do you tr
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:11 pm

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@Sando, Why didn't you address ?
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:30 pm

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In post 317, Quick wrote:@Sando, Why didn't you address ?
Address what? You haven't asked me anything and you don't appear to understand the meaning of the word "ostensibly". As an example:
In post 211, Quick wrote:In the absence of not knowing if we have a vig or not, we should act as though we do NOT have a vig. So what is ostensibly right about this exactly?
Ostensibly: as appears or is stated to be true, though not necessarily so

Seems to me that saying "we can deal with this with a Vig" appears to be true, but is not necessarily true. What part ISN'T ostensibly right about this?
In post 211, Quick wrote:Sorry M8
No worries, all is forgiven.
In post 314, Quick wrote:Don't mix PL and reads. Either PL or don't. Don't mix the two.
Meh, the logic is out there, agree with it or not, don't try to lecture me without addressing the actual logic. I also literally said "I have no read on N_M".
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:32 pm

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In post 316, the worst wrote:Who do you tr
Quick can be town for now. Bad town, but town.

UNVOTE: Quick
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:57 pm

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In post 267, Oxy wrote:sando - He and I independently arrived at the same conclusion about mutantdevle, at least until Sando did the meta read through
You disagree with the meta read, or just not a big meta read kinda guy?
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:29 pm

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@Pintuchopsuey
you do know there is three scum in this game right? Why are you sorting scum in pairs? Or is it just easier that way because interactions?
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:42 pm

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Gah! So many new pages...

Forgive me if some of my next few posts are outdated.
I mostly just lurk now.
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:43 pm

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In post 162, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 161, ceejayvinoya wrote:Hell yeaaaah. Naked vote + omgus = lots of fun
He's the third vote on me. Statistically, the third vote is always scum
So... your OMGUS vote is serious?
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:53 pm

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In post 168, the worst wrote:
In post 87, Sando wrote:
In post 15, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 10, Quick wrote:I have some feels on some of the players who have posted so far, but keeping those gut reads to myself for the time being.
This feels like you are trying too hard.

VOTE: Fast
I'm putting scum in these two for now, don't like either side of this equation. This reads as weak an approval seeking from Quick and a bit of an opportunistic pickup from mutant, followed by a vote elsewhere.

I normally like townhunting, but Quick seems to be doing it on fairly dubious grounds and hasn't backed it up reasonably when questioned. Weak townhunting is an easy place for scum to hide and I dun like it.

Yay end of RVS.

VOTE: Quick

@devle
Sando and I hiveminded this vibe. D1 is horse poop but this is a good D1 townread for me.

Who are your biggest townreads?
I mean, y'all both realise that was a semi-serious comment on Quick's serious comment all during RVS right? Hence why I voted 'Fast' instead of 'Quick'.

As for my town reads, I'd say that Quick is one of them. I could see them being scum though but currently I read them as eager town. Oxy definitely feels town. Sando I can also see being town since they have the right kind of attitude. That's my town/town lean reads based on what everyone has posted before this post (for now I'm ignoring what they have said after your post here despite getting a sneak peak when looking at their ISOs). So basically, by the time I've finished catching up, these reads may change.
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