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[Mohab500]

How mah bois at dibbly dabble lass doing lemoooo? Let's vooooote

Nah

[Mohab500]

Booneytoonz mah man

[Mohab500]

vote : lovebird

[Mohab500]

So when does this RVS shit end?

[Mohab500]

I've discord my intellectual capacity's immense near-limitless powers, and I've succesfully identified, with a 100% success rate, the members of the mafia group. However, I refuse to say the answers out loud, and I'll play along with your feeble minds in this game, so some of you humans can have fun. Do not expect though, that I'll not try to win; I'll surely try to win, but only use 1% of my intellectual powers, as to make this a fair game.

VOTE screenplay

[Mohab500]

VOTE: Heyoka

L-1.

Genuine question, can I get an idea of why you decided to put Heyoka in (what you expected) L-1 so early in the game? I know it may be an RVS vote and all, but I'd suggest being careful with your votes because anyone can hammer and claim "I didn't know he was L-1" and we wouldn't know for sure. Unless that's like, what you wanted to happen.

[Mohab500]

VOTE: Heyoka

I didn't know he was L-1.

Intend to hammer

[Mohab500]

BYE
VOTE: Heyoka

It never ends boys

[Mohab500]

Love... finds a way, right?

[Mohab500]

love is a battlefield

Do you mean she may love me back?

[Mohab500]

VOTE: TwoInAMillion

[Mohab500]

Reminder to everyone that Heyouka is at L-1 so no one 'Accidently' hammers.

[Mohab500]

Reminder to everyone that Heyouka is at L-1 so no one 'Accidently' hammers.

[Mohab500]

My biggest slightly serious push here is TwoInAMillion, then maybe screenplay.

[Mohab500]

Reminder to everyone that Heyouka is at L-1 so no one 'Accidently' hammers.

No, Heyoka

is hammered since post 149 .

Wasn't he at L-2 before that?

[Mohab500]

Reminder to everyone that Heyouka is at L-1 so no one 'Accidently' hammers.

No, Heyoka

is hammered since post 149 .

Wasn't he at L-2 before that?

Read the votecount with 4 votes, then read down. 4 votes + tchill + TIAM + kookoo=7 votes. 7 votes are hammer.

Oh right. Doubt heyouka is town then because I don't think scum would let their partner be hammered so early in the game. I believe kookoo is probably scum here.

[Mohab500]

I mean doubt Heyouka is scum, EBOWP

[Mohab500]

I am having trouble determining if people are actually serious about these reads, sorry.

[Mohab500]

First off, there is simply no town motivation for kookoo here: I don't want people to forget him saying "I didn't know he was at L-1" on his hammer post, and his reasoning is abnormally bad, talking about "games dragging on" and "he was too annoying", neither of which seem like reasons of a townie.

However, I wouldn't put him at L-1 yet, not unless we're close to the deadline. He knows he's dead meat here, he'll self hammer and end the day early.

I've analyzed his interactions with other players here and I am going to analyze Lexa and write a post just about now or an hour at most.

[Mohab500]

This game is deliciously delightful so far, I'm glad people are participating enough to actually have strong reads!

My statement of "Lexa and TWIM are lock town. Lovebird is very probably scum." remains true. Lexa had a very townie entrance. A simple meta dive dictates that Lexa is a strategic and reserved player, and as far as I'm aware has not completed a town game on this site. At the least, hasn't on this alt. The page 1 posturing is extremely townie. Her continued light-hearted rhetoric is not resemblant of her scum game as far as I can tell either.

TWIM is less strong, but I firmly believe he is town. He is demonstrably incapable of being competent or "pro-town" as either alignment, this is true. However, his confidence, attitude, and stances this game all ring very hard town. I have not meta-dived TWIM and do not have time for the entire playerlist - Lexa specifically earned one for the entrance. His pushes seem logical and alright - for example, in isolation Lexa's entrance would look scummy (I thought so too which is why I did some research!) and that comment is fine. I believe him to be genuine. Also, RB is a good vote.

Lovebird's a tank of doggy doodoo. As far as I can remember, virtually all of their posts have been quite bad. Their #26 is a bad reaction to a statement that has no indication of my alignment, however I doubt they know who I am so that's not really alignment indicative for Lovebird either. Their #30, however, makes it much worse. Any confidence I am scum from that post is not realistic nor genuine, and indicates to me they are fabricating a push on what is seemingly a new player. Their #58 is scummy, but it is not pro-town to state why so either you figure it out on your own or tough titties. Their #138 is posturing, but unlike Lexa it is scummy as heck this time. Overall, I have not liked a single post from this iso and have strongly disliked the majority. Lovebird can be the lynch of the day.

RB and Screenplay are scummy.

Tchill and MortFeld are townie.

Heyoka is hard null, but if they're town RB, Pisskop, Screenplay, Tchill contains 2 scum.

Pisskop, eth0s, Not Known 15, and Mohab have no tangible content.

VOTE: lovebird

This is a really important post. One thing to note is that this post reserves basically no content and makes no sense. It seems like something, but after rereading, I don't actually understand this. The reasons don't make sense either, it seems like a lot of words that are basically worthless. However, it can be alignment indicative, so let's break this down.

My statement of "Lexa and TWIM are lock town. Lovebird is very probably scum." remains true. Lexa had a very townie entrance. A simple meta dive dictates that Lexa is a strategic and reserved player, and as far as I'm aware has not completed a town game on this site. At the least, hasn't on this alt. The page 1 posturing is extremely townie. Her continued light-hearted rhetoric is not resemblant of her scum game as far as I can tell either.

During the night phase, I believed Lexa to be town, mainly on tone. I scumread TWIM, mainly on tone aswell.

Turns out Lexa is a townie, which made it tough for me to check through TWIM and lovebird. I don't believe scum would start a wagon on his ally so early in the game, so I don't particualary think his scumreads will make much use.

TWIM is less strong, but I firmly believe he is town. He is demonstrably incapable of being competent or "pro-town" as either alignment, this is true. However, his confidence, attitude, and stances this game all ring very hard town. I have not meta-dived TWIM and do not have time for the entire playerlist - Lexa specifically earned one for the entrance. His pushes seem logical and alright - for example, in isolation Lexa's entrance would look scummy (I thought so too which is why I did some research!) and that comment is fine. I believe him to be genuine. Also, RB is a good vote.

I am incapable of really understanding the reasoning here, because I am too stupid to understand the wording? (again). But what we know is that TWIM was townread by kookoo.

Lovebird's a tank of doggy doodoo. As far as I can remember, virtually all of their posts have been quite bad. Their #26 is a bad reaction to a statement that has no indication of my alignment, however I doubt they know who I am so that's not really alignment indicative for Lovebird either. Their #30, however, makes it much worse. Any confidence I am scum from that post is not realistic nor genuine, and indicates to me they are fabricating a push on what is seemingly a new player. Their #58 is scummy, but it is not pro-town to state why so either you figure it out on your own or tough titties. Their #138 is posturing, but unlike Lexa it is scummy as heck this time. Overall, I have not liked a single post from this iso and have strongly disliked the majority. Lovebird can be the lynch of the day.

I am not sure I understand why he's scumreading Lovebird, but from what I see from the ISO's, both lovebird and TWIM have similar playstyles. You'd think a genuine player would townread players of similar playstyles atleast to a similar degree. This makes me feel like either TWIM and lovebird are both town or both scum. The reads are reeking random bullshit though, which is an issue.

RB and Screenplay are scummy.

Tchill and MortFeld are townie.

I believe one player from these 4 is scum, I'd think the townread players are more likely to be scum here.

Heyoka is hard null, but if they're town RB, Pisskop, Screenplay, Tchill contains 2 scum.

Kookoo knows Heyoka is town, which makes me feel he won't really put an ally on that list. But then again, I scumread Screenplay earlier, and wasn't really liking Tchill, so I am not sure.

Pisskop, eth0s, Not Known 15, and Mohab have no tangible content.

I was quite Null on all of these (except myself ofcourse), but I believe the last scum has to be from here if we're going by POE.

[Mohab500]

I think kookoo is just trying to annoy us so we lose our cool and make bad decisions. We can just ignore him.

[Mohab500]

Oh, I agree with lynching kookoo, I just say not to put him at L-1 so he doesn't selfhammer and end the day early. We've got time to think about this is all I am saying.

[Mohab500]

Kookoobird calling lovebird scum sounds like something mulch would do as scum to his partner. So I think it’s entirely possible it was a scum ploy to distance from one another.

I think that's possibly true -- I may have oversimplified it. I just thought that the suicidal way he was playing, I find it unlikely he would try to do a risky stunt on his partner that brings light to his partner if kookoo is found to be scum.

[Mohab500]

Guys, can we please not forget what kookoo did earlier? He quickhammered a NULLnread, in the same post made a joke about not knowing he was L-1, later in twillight told someone that if they wanted to suspect him they should look at the quickhammer, in D2 says he just doesn't like games that drag on, and that "He was annoying anyways", can someone please tell me where any town motivation from kookoo is here? I am not buying all of his emotional shit that he's been typing. It honestly feels like a good scumplay hoping to get townread by tone. He's just calling other players bad and talking about how good he is and indimidating other players into townreading him or diverting attention from himself. I have a sneaking suspicion he really thinks this site is full of idiots and that he can get away with quickhammering someone for no reason. He really thinks we're that bad.

I am going to re read and talk about who the other scum are, but later today because I am busy now. But I am starting to slightly believe Tchill scum again from a quick glance.

[Mohab500]

I just came home a few hours ago. Expect a few posts in the next few hours.

[Mohab500]

In post 252, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 147, Kookoobird wrote:

Heyoka is hard null, but if they're town RB, Pisskop, Screenplay, Tchill contains 2 scum.

Pisskop, eth0s, Not Known 15, and Mohab have no tangible content.

I just noticed that they put Pisskop in both the no tangible content and the contains scum categories, for no apparent reason.
VOTE: Kookoobird

I don't see that this has been answered or responded to. I guess it is because Kookoo is scum wanting to hide this scumslip.
After we lynch Kookoo and they flip scum we need to take a look at Pisskop because they were probably misplaced as scum partner of Kookoo.
Lynch Kookoo
If Kookoo is some strong mafia power role I'd say the Screen accusations could be a bus; more so because they didn't claim ascetic Day 1; you just need to look which role died last night to know why this would be a terrible idea as Town; it is more likely to come from scum.

With the suicidal way kookoo is playing, I feel like he's unlikely to be a power role, I think he's probably just a goon who's trying to confuse the players with his last breaths.

[Mohab500]

Not too much on eth0s.
Tchill, why did you put heyoka at L-2?
Screenplay got way too much fluff there.
I can understand their reasoning on Heyoka there though.
Time is up. Will post later if we are still in twilight.

just to see what happened.

I'd think scum would fabricate something else rather than just outright say he wanted to see what happened.

[Mohab500]

You know who else has a giant scum pool? Kookoobird. They called everyone in the game scumy but you. Hmm

I have to say, this makes a lot of sense.

[Mohab500]

VOTE: Srceenplay

A guilty is a guilty, I guess.

You haven't posted in a while and this is the first thing that comes to mind here? No explaination for shit?

[Mohab500]

Yep, we need to lynch you.

VOTE: Kookoobird

Why did you suddenly switch your vote?

[Mohab500]

VOTE: Lovebird

Caught one.

Can you explain the reasoning behind this?

[Mohab500]

Man kookoo was doing so good with the "long page days" rant. I was totally feeling that. Then I come back to a fake guilty....

Had you read that earlier?

I noticed it. Looked at my phone for a minute and I thought wow this looks like a welcome addition to people ik on site.

Then kookoo just admitted to faking a guilty because kookoo isn't capable of convincing people.

Figuring things out is just as important as being able to convince people. People shouldn't try short cuts to convincing people through lies. That's a terrible idea.

I can convince people who know how to play mafia. I have no idea how to convince players like people in this game. As an example, Screen and Mohab are very likely not scum partners meaning at least 1 is town, both of them wanted to quickhammer Heyoka, both of them then voted me after for doing it. Mohab started fucking casing for my partner. I can't play with people like this. I'm not letting this be the first time I ever replace.

I will say, you seem better. You're town pretty blatantly.

Where did I want to quickhammer heyoka? I specifically made a post telling people to not 'accidently' hammer him and you went on and mocked it then quickhammered him.

[Mohab500]

Well a) he said quicklynches are good b) he fakeclaimed and c) if he continues to give bad advice then town will lose for sure. None of these scream town to me.

The advice doesn't matter I you don't listen to it. Why are you concerned about his word carrying so much weight?

Just looks like you're throwing out weak reasons to lynch him to me. At least C is.

It's stronger than any case anyone has given on any other player during this game so far, as far as I can tell.

I don't know. I just have a feeling that TWIM is bussing kookoo here. His wording feels off and he hasn't actually participated in much wagons to begin with so he can say something like this.

[Mohab500]

From scummiest to towniest:

Kookoo
Mortfeld, TWIM
Screenplay
Tchill13, lovebird

NULL: pisskop, Notknown15, rb, eth0s

I am starting to go back on my idea about TWIM being the same as lovebird here.
Mort feels overly supportive and forgiving of kookoo, while TWIM just seems like scum bussing kookoo.

In either way, I believe that this isn't going anywhere so

VOTE:KOOKOO

The nulls need to post more.

[Mohab500]

Also why is lovebird your strongest tr

I feel like he's playing rationally here. He also seems to be the only one here who actually cares about, you know, a player quickhammering someone for no reason on the fifth page of the game. Tone sounds townie to me aswell.

[Mohab500]

Also why is lovebird your strongest tr

I feel like he's playing rationally here. He also seems to be the only one here who actually cares about, you know, a player quickhammering someone for no reason on the fifth page of the game. Tone sounds townie to me aswell.

Scum can play rationally and make an easy "oh that's not townie" statement about a quick hammer.

More on lovebird -- I feel like I don't have reasons to scumread him, if you get what I mean? I suspect all of the others except the nulls and tchill here. Screenplay seems like a decent lynch from other reasons mentioned by others, and I provided my case on my top 3 scumreads, but I don't honestly see reasons to scumread lovebird (and I get a similar vibe from Tchill..)

[Mohab500]

I guess I can say our thought processes align a bit here. I see myself saying some of the stuff he's saying if I was a townie in his case. Not sure if that's a biased reason though.

[Mohab500]

Also, if kookoo flips town (Which I really, really, REALLY doubt), I think scum is probably from the 4 nulls.

[Mohab500]

Picked this up one last time before sleep. I'll answer questions tomorrow when I have time. For now, as far as I see, kookoo is at L-2, eth0s I am not sure if you're considering kookoo just a terrible player or scum, but if it's the latter I suggest voting him and getting him lynched now. He's the most confident scumread I have, and I feel like we've milked everything in this day. With the way kookoo is playing if we keep waiting he'll attempt more distancing tactics and probably make us lose our cool completely, so I think an earlier lynch here is pereferable.

Again, I don't have time to answer questions directed to me so sorry if it's disappointing.

[Mohab500]

Hi mohab help me see why you scumread me and answer my question from 462

I believe kookoo is most likely (no, unless it's some kind of miracle, he's scum) scum. I believe you're being too forgiving of kookoo after notcing that he can actually get away with his quickhammer, and I feel like it's some kind of partner defending rather than genuine. What I feel like is that you're trying to avoid any scumcase on kookoo here.

[Mohab500]

eth0s, rb, pisskop, Tchill, Mort are town never lynch them. creen, mohab, nk15, lovebird contains 2 or 3 scum. you get your wish, I'm out.

I'm awful yet I'm locktown based on my play? huh

I've had more TR's on site due to to terrible play. Things scum never would do opposed to things a God townie does. That's where most if my TR's come from.

Scum don't fake a guilty day 2 for a lynch. No longer term motivation there.

Town doesn't quickhammer someone on page 5 for no reason then say "he was annoying" and continously call other players terrible, have inconsistent shit reading that's based around the skill rather than actual alignment, ignore arguments of other players and blame their skill, try to replace out when wagoned badly, then constantly change votes. It's the same shit here. You're ignoring everything kookoo is doing wrong in an attempt to cover him. Atleas tthe scum play yu're mentioning has some idea to it, even if it's visibly stupid. Unless town is intentionally throwing the game, I don't see any decent townie player (Because you call kookoo decent) try any of the stuff I mentioned. He's trying to get away with playing like shit here and it's fucking hilarious it's actually working. I just want a reason why town would do any of the stuff I mentioned. I won't take the risk of him being just a really fucking godawful insane player with a god complex, I'll actually lynch him.

[Mohab500]

Picked this up one last time before sleep. I'll answer questions tomorrow when I have time. For now, as far as I see, kookoo is at L-2, eth0s I am not sure if you're considering kookoo just a terrible player or scum, but if it's the latter I suggest voting him and getting him lynched now. He's the most confident scumread I have, and I feel like we've milked everything in this day. With the way kookoo is playing if we keep waiting he'll attempt more distancing tactics and probably make us lose our cool completely, so I think an earlier lynch here is pereferable.

Again, I don't have time to answer questions directed to me so sorry if it's disappointing.

I don't think we have milked this day yet. Especially when pisskop is active lurking and poking fun at me for trying to make him say something that helps the town.

I am sorry, I am having trouble picking up the reasoning, can you make a post explaining why you exactly scumread pisskop? I haven't exactly looked into him, it may be something obvious I am missing.

[Mohab500]

I feel like TWIM is less scummy after his last few posts and Tchill is rising in my scum list? still haven't read pisskop or actually on the 2 other nulls except eth0s yet, sorry guys .

kookoo
Mort
Tchill,screenplay, TWIM,
eth0s, lovebird.

[Mohab500]

VOTE: Pisskop
We have scummy behaviour here:
Not voting before post 49, the 6th post of Pisskop.
It is usually scum who likes to avoid random votes early.
Post 6; completely by chance, yeah sure. Look at Pisskop, they are so town! Not buying that.
Fluff in their posts. Trying to look like they are doing more than they are.
Post 88: sheeping on Heyoka without any reasoning. After rb made a similar vote; even using this as cover up...
Post 621: LAMIST again.
Post 537: misrepresenting the argument of TIAM on Tchill, could be a honest mistake, so low confidence in this indicator.

this is such a shoddy attempt. Its low effort

and

manages to look like its a tryhard attempt to wrangle up a wagon. How do you do both at once?

I think it's also low effort and deserving of more focus on NK15 but I don't think scum would write something like that. The tone of NK15 in the game strikes me as very townie.

[Mohab500]

In the meantime, I am feeling 2iam scum again. I am convinced kookoo is scum and i don't think that's changing anytime soon, but if all the players here aren't willing to vote kookoo I'd look into 2iam again, since it's better than nolynch..

[Mohab500]

I am losing confidence in mort scum after his last few posts. Maybe I was going overboard?

[Mohab500]

I feel like the Pisskop wagon is bullshit here. No actual focus on his content and more nitpicking about his playstyle. Only stuff I can say is that if Eddie flips town then eth0s vs pisskop is scum bussing, with third being in (rb, 2iam, screenplay).

Scummiest to towniest

eddie
tchill, 2iam
mort, screenplay
nk15, eth0s, pisskop, rb
lovebird

[Mohab500]

I feel like the Pisskop wagon is bullshit here. No actual focus on his content and more nitpicking about his playstyle.

What did I just read??
No actual focus on his content? Nitpicking about playstyle?

That

is

BS

.
What's content exactly do you feel is making them TOWN?
How is voting without genuine explained reasoning, avoiding early votes, having fluffy posts and not posting much(most of their posts are one-liners)and being LAMIST, and all of this at once,

not scummy

?
Explain this right now.

I feel like in the current game stage with kookoo and screenplay being heavy wagons, I'd imagine scum atleast try to be more active and fabricate anything to get one of these two lynched, atleast indirectly. Pisskop seems to just have a playstyle that's basic and more fluffy, rather than fake if you know what I mean? I don't think he's fake. At the same time, I am not sure what to make of him voting without reasoning, I feel like the tone here is townie and it doesn't strike me that even these votes look inconsistent with his playstyle, but I seem to have ignored it. It's surely something to look into.

[Mohab500]

That being said, I still feel that NK15 is generally townie and genuinely suspect pisskop here.

[Mohab500]

Here's a full post explaining why I think kookoo is scum.

VOTE: Heyoka

I didn't know he was L-1.

Kookoo intentionally hammers a slot that he nullread in #147 (two posts before), and makes a joke mocking my #148.

It isn't, if you think I'm scum you should focus on me hammering a stated null read on page 6.

Kookoo acknowledges what he's done and doesn't offer an explanation, infact tells people that if they suspect him they should focus on his quickhammer.

VOTE: Lovebird

Can we lynch this today please?

Doesn't acknowledge anything that's happened in the game, goes straight to lynching the guy he scumread from his post and wants him lynched on the first day of d1, doesn't seem like he gives a shit about his quickhammer, doesn't even think that people will suspect him because he quickhammered.

Lexa is killed because I make the slot unlynchable. I am not surprised.

This guy has some major ego issues.

viewtopic.php?p=10049225#p10049225
Shut up.

Nonsensical response.

Quickhammering is fun. Days that drag on and get slow are not. I do not want to play a 150+ page game that this site is famous for. Also, he was annoying.

This seems like a really bad reason to quickhammer someone on page 5, and what ticks me off is his "Also, he was annoying". What the fuck?

I didn't believe my friends when they said this site was awful. Thank you for proving me wrong.

Goes to insulting the site and blaming other players when heavily questioned.

I'm gonna go ahead and replace out. it is not worth my time to illustrate why you are awful. I am glad I understand why good people don't play here anymore. Sorry Boon, I only joined because of you being the host and having good setups

He thinks it's hopeless, so he replaces out. Also, insulting the site again and calling other players awful, oblivious of how he's playing (Faking angrytown).

The entirety of #292 looks overly casual for a guy who talks about how good he is at this game even during the post itself, again seemingly oblivious of how shitty he is. Also:

viewtopic.php?p=10043663#p10043663
viewtopic.php?p=10043675#p10043675
This is actually hilarious. These are the 2 giving me the most shit for my hammer as they both gave intent and then hammered themselves.

This makes no sense.

I'm about here now. There is no difference in the rows, everyone is equal. Town at the top.
Mortfeld
Tchill - Pisskop - Tiam
Not Known - RB - Eth0s
Mohab
Lovebird - Screenplay

It isn't that I have Piss high, I just think a lot of you are very scummy.

So what exactly did he mean by that last line?

I'm scumreading Mohab and Screenplay because they're hypocrites and aren't gamesolving, though it doesn't help that every time either one of them post I think damn, they're going to look back on this in 5 years and cringe at themselves. Like looking through old Facebook messages.

This is completely random; I understand being called a bad player because I think I am, but being told that I am not gamesolving when my posts clearly show atleast some fucking merit of trying to find scum makes no sense, same with a calling me a hypocrite and not citing anything.

BYE
VOTE: Heyoka

I think kookoo is just trying to annoy us so we lose our cool and make bad decisions. We can just ignore him.

You don’t ignore them. You lynch them.
VOTE: Kookoobird

First off, there is simply no town motivation for kookoo here: I don't want people to forget him saying "I didn't know he was at L-1" on his hammer post, and his reasoning is abnormally bad, talking about "games dragging on" and "he was too annoying", neither of which seem like reasons of a townie.

However, I wouldn't put him at L-1 yet, not unless we're close to the deadline. He knows he's dead meat here, he'll self hammer and end the day early.

I've analyzed his interactions with other players here and I am going to analyze Lexa and write a post just about now or an hour at most.

VOTE: Heyoka

I didn't know he was L-1.

Intend to hammer

Holy shit the last line was a joke. I didn't know you actually took it seriously. Why would I hammer someone I am specifically warning against hammering even in my next posts when I didn't know it was a hammer?

Next few posts by kookoo focus on screenplay, focus on this:

I did not have the energy to get Screen wagoned. I don't understand how to convince people in this game. I decided to fake it after that string of Screenplay and Lovebird posts, because at that point I decided if they are town then they deserve to get lynched anyways for how disgustingly bad they're playing. Screen was worse.

Lynching me first accomplishes nothing, but that hasn't stopped this site yet.

Blaming other players for he himself doing a retarded play, and then that last line takes it all.

Man kookoo was doing so good with the "long page days" rant. I was totally feeling that. Then I come back to a fake guilty....

Had you read that earlier?

I noticed it. Looked at my phone for a minute and I thought wow this looks like a welcome addition to people ik on site.

Then kookoo just admitted to faking a guilty because kookoo isn't capable of convincing people.

Figuring things out is just as important as being able to convince people. People shouldn't try short cuts to convincing people through lies. That's a terrible idea.

I can convince people who know how to play mafia. I have no idea how to convince players like people in this game. As an example, Screen and Mohab are very likely not scum partners meaning at least 1 is town, both of them wanted to quickhammer Heyoka, both of them then voted me after for doing it. Mohab started fucking casing for my partner. I can't play with people like this. I'm not letting this be the first time I ever replace.

I will say, you seem better. You're town pretty blatantly.

Again, this seems poor and intentionally misunderstanding intentions. Looks like someone who looked at the posts for a few seconds then didn't care anymore.

Nice. I'm going to go into Teacher's college I think, teachers make a lot in my area and I love teaching. Of course, you wouldn't think that from my play here.

People townreading this guy, aren't you kind of concerned this guy is going to become a teacher?

I only replace into slots I think are town so I agree

I really doubt this is true, atleast for this game. Didn't you see any red flags while replacing into this guy? I'd atleast be wary.

[Mohab500]

I am starting to feel more confident in screen scum here and less confident in eddie scum for undisclosed reasons.

If it comes down to it, I'd rather lynch screen than a no lynch.

[Mohab500]

Yeah,

UNVOTE

[b/]

[Mohab500]

UNVOTE

[Mohab500]

If it comes down to it, I'd rather lynch screen than a no lynch.

oh hey, this is crazy to say with 9 days left in a day.

It's exaclty why I didn't jump on the wagon yet, though

[Mohab500]

Right, super confident in Eddie scum now, since screen is claiming town after getting hammered. I never saw it as SvS or TvT but neglected to mention this. I am demanding Eddie lynch tomorrow.

[Mohab500]

At the very least, screen lynch wagon surely has scum motivation behind it.

[Mohab500]

Eddie, my answer to your question is no.

[Mohab500]

I feel like he's flipping town tbh...

[Mohab500]

vote eddie

[Mohab500]

We owe screenplay a lynch here, and I choose eddie.

[Mohab500]

3 scum are either (2iam, dunker, pisskop), or (mort/tchill, eddie, rb) (more likely)

NK is town imo. I say lynch eddie today and if he flips town focus on 2iam/pisskop.

[Mohab500]

I believe the game currently is in scum hands, meaning the 3 scum are acting together and trying to convince the other townies to mislynch. I believe everyone should just vote who they think they're scum, rather than try to argue with others because I am pretty sure scum motivation is behind the 2 mislynches before and that scum, whoever they are, is trying to convince others to vote a person. I think it's unlikely we'll win if this get to lylo, so I hope today's not a mislynch.

I am kind of bent on whether we should massclaim or not. I'll think about it and answer later.

[Mohab500]

Sorry for the delay. I am for massclaim. I think if we massclaim tomorrow it will be easier on scum to bullshit through it in lylo. I think it'll be much harder for scum if we massclaim today and probably more stressing.

I am a vanilla town.

Also, after pisskop's claim, I am inclined to believe that he is not scum with no cc's yet, which leads me to believe in {eddie, rb, mort/tchill} in scum. Tchill's last few posts strike me as town.

I stand by my eddie lynch today. Honestly think 2iam is most likely to be scum if eddie flips town.

[Mohab500]

Can people give me their opinions of NK15

Cant read them

Townie tone.. just kinda sounds like he's not putting effort tbh. He's consistent with what he;'s saying so I don't think he's faking..

[Mohab500]

Interesting. After nk15's claim pisskop seems more scummy in tone. This could just be desperate town though.

Rvrn thrn, nk15 is my number 1 townread anyways, so I will have to vote pisskop here,

vote pisskop

[Mohab500]

If pisskop flips town then tomorrow is nk15 then the day after is eddie. Also everybody should claim and investigative roles should speak up about who they investigated. We can't half massclaim, that removes the benefit of massclaiming all together and puts the PR's at risk.

[Mohab500]

Well that sets the gears. Indeed everybody is just bad here, and we let eddie do his thing long enough. tomorrow is Nk15, after that is eddie. Town investigatives need to come out and claim now. I think the third is between mort and tchill, as I really townread rb through tone.

[Mohab500]

Acrtually dunker here could be scum. Not sure though, don't think dunker would bus Nk15 at this point.

[Mohab500]

If I die tonight then my lynchpool is {nk15/eddie/mort}

[Mohab500]

Oh almost forgot. If pisskop was just trolling and flips scum, and I die, lynch is : (2iam) and one of these two (tchill, dunker)

[Mohab500]

We have to finish the massclaim yes, but it's a lot more useless in lylo when anyone can fake claim yolo and if we mislynch its over.

[Mohab500]

Please do not throw out any votes atm. I need to reread. I actually haven't reread the game at all and have played most of it in real time. This shouldn't be too hard to figure out on reread after mass claim.

I want mohab to claim next.

reread, I already claimed vanilla town

[Mohab500]

Ok, I admit it I am lying.

I am actually town miller and forgot to claim and thought it would get me lynched.

This makes no sense. You claimed NK15 was lying becayse you "know you're not", I don't think a town would try that hard to make us mislynch.

VOTE TIAM

[Mohab500]

I symphasize with this and understand actually, but I still don't think that puts you in the clear.

unvote

[Mohab500]

I'm a town 2 shot weak friendly neighbor.

I shot screen night one, which is why I was against his stupid lynch.

And I shot mohab last night.

Mohab please confirm.

Mohab.
Do you confirm this?

Quick post, yes I confirm.

[Mohab500]

oh and fucking lol, you quickhammered the day before lylo, then come into lylo with an apparent inno claim on someone as a weak neighbourizer and we're meant to trust that

Actually I was the one who hammered.

[Mohab500]

Holy fick the roles

[Mohab500]

Nk and tiam seem like likely for scum. Not sure if Rb/mort are genuine in their suspicion. One of them or eddie is scum.

[Mohab500]

Let wait until atleast thursday before lynching anyone please.

[Mohab500]

TIAM/NK15/Eddie team is most viable here.

[Mohab500]

NK what happened to your push on eddie?

It never existed.

Haven't finished reading but this guy looks scummy af. Like how did it never exist? Where you even paying attention to wtf you're writing?

[Mohab500]

Tiam/nk/eddie because I don't feel as mort is scum.

[Mohab500]

I'd like to qait until tomorrow atleast so I'll be able to focus more on the game.

[Mohab500]

Because NK could push kookoo/eddie there as a mislynch hard and not be blamed for a town flip due to a fake guilty.

He completely dropped that push because tiam/mohab/tchill is a better narrative atm.

Which clears eddie if NK is scum.

So NK's scumminess plus the fact I think town gave the fake guilty means I can feel good about lock towning eddie.

The game comes down to rb/Mort.

I think rb is scum due to his VT claim and Mort is the boon role. The crazy role in a boon game.

I have to say while reading this whole thing each one of your posts made me forget that I got a message telling me you're town.

[Mohab500]

Right. 8 hours from now I will start breaking down everything. Give me some time before we do anything rash.

[Mohab500]

TAKE YOU'RE VOTES OFF. ONE MISS VOTE WINS SCUM THE GAME.

There. This looks townie if you don't look at the context.
However, this was made after the CC's(me vs TIAM's fake role). Normally any townie would assume that it is fine to vote there; if two claims at LYLO contradict each other. The only reason why Tchill did not like that was that TIAM was scum with them. They then tried to make themselves town by fakeclaiming Friendly Neighbor and Mohab had little chance but to play along.
This is one more evidence to them.

And I shot mohab last night.

Mohab please confirm.

You note the difference? They did say "Mohab please confirm"
They did not wait for their target to announce it themselves(which would make more sense; if your action got blocked you get a false confirmation otherwise.
They did not just say that they were a weak friendly neighbor and asked for confirmations. That would have been what I would have expected from town in this situation.
According to the rules scum do not have daychat unless they have an encryptor.
This "Mohab please confirm" looks like scum signalling other scum "You have to help me here".
And Tchill was committed to make a strong claim for their behaviour. Maybe they had something in mind that would not work if we get one more night after a TIAM flip? And they then panicked?
Because this is how it looks to me.

I was actually confused at first, because I'd never got a message like that before, so afraid of fucking up and not really understanding why the message was sent, also not knowing if it's good to go and announce it, I decided to just go along and act like I am townreading tchill.

[Mohab500]

After questioning the mod and looking at the forums and whitlost that tchill telling me he shot me I understood what exactly happened.

[Mohab500]

mohab, lemme know when youre online. we wneed real time talk

Life got in the way and I had no connection for a while, cya tomorrow I guess, maybe tomorrow at 9 am egypt time?

[Mohab500]

Yeah tchill Eddie have been working out probabilities/combinations? I haven't read over that discussion really

you need to read my case on RB/NK/Tiam

I'd prefer we lynch RB today since everyone agrees its nk/tiam.

If rb isn't scum with them i'll never be convinced of it.

i'd prefer to get rb's lynch out of the way.

haven't finished reading --- let me just say that we should get rid of the sure-scum first, where in day6 it's gonna be either to determine scum since he's alone.

[Mohab500]

I don't think I should. At least not if I want to be alive tomorrow.

From a game theory perspective, i would support massclaim, from what my role is, I don't support it.

this comes off as "I will get lynched"

Not "i will get night killed"

Seems like the opposite to me tbh.

[Mohab500]

lul wtf were the last few posts.. rb is angrytown I guess

[Mohab500]

lul wtf were the last few posts.. rb is angrytown I guess

scum!rb is perfectly capable of strong negative emotion too, trust me lmao

yeah I am just putting possibilities

[Mohab500]

I am here if you still are, eddie. Do you have questions?

[Mohab500]

im so glad i decided to use my night action on you mohab lol.

why though?

[Mohab500]

I am here, I am not free by the exact word but I can talk

[Mohab500]

NK15 is 99% scum. I am feeling less sure about tiam, Logic says he's scum, But I just know that people can suspect me because of a mistake for something I said for example and when I am not scum, and at times it kinda feels hopeless and I guess I feel like how Tiam might possibly be feeling. if he was in that case. I don't think that's the case with Tiam, but I still have a bit of doubt in me.

Third scum? After a little rereading RB's anger might not really be genuine - it specifically seems out of place for the chill way he's been playing but it just might be that we never really saw him get suspected so we don't really know his natural reaction to getting angry. However, Even if it was genuine, I still think that he seems like a angry scum for getting caught -- not a townie.

As for mort, I don't see a lot of notable stuff from him, but from how I noticed his gameplay, nothing has been odd, he's just palying as he always has all game, which gives me the impression of there being no underlying plan or something, which makes me townread him more.

Eddie, I've been getting the feeling that my reasons for suspecting you as scum are ignored by everybody in the game, which has been making me more hesitant in bringing it up. I still don't think the reasons I suspect you are "bullshit" per se but if everybody in the game is ignoring them (Including conftown tchill, and some of the dead players), I feel bad bringing them up. I think so far you've been more passive in d3, but that is the only new thing I can bring to the table for now. I am not sure about anything else.

So NK15 - tiam - rb/eddie - mort

[Mohab500]

cool, yealike I said I rather do nk first

qhen you got the pm that tchill was a friendly neighbor, what did it call his role? WEAK friendly neighbor or friendly neighbor? dont quote it if that's not obvious, quoting mod coms is big nono

It said that tchill is town aligned, no less, no more. I also have a "deleted message" from the mod aswell but I don't know if that's relevant.

[Mohab500]

If that's actually the team, giant mvp to tchill

Seriously wp man. Ty for leading town

+

[Mohab500]

Like

it seemed like mohab was intentionally trying to act new in his newbie, a direct personality alter. probably gets townread on his home site or something. here, it feels like he actually knows what he's doing, he's just bad at it (like most inexperienced players are). him being 100% sure kookoo was scum to the point of partner casing makes sense when you realize kookoo did every scumtell in the newbie book and a newer player won't know how to take that and go town.

ishrug

i spent an hour reading that game all for nothing

Sorry, can you point me which game you're talking about?

[Mohab500]

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=74747

Ah thanks. I also played a game on another account like 8 months ago or something like that, so I thought you might have got the wrong game (viewtopic.php?f=11&t=72042&start=225).

That being said, not sure what I am going to do next here. I might return to newbie games, but I kind of want to learn the mechanics so I might just play another normal. Def gonna continue mafia though!

[Mohab500]

It doesn't help that my game was a boon game with tons of roles which put me in constant confusion the whole time.

[Mohab500]

Really irrelevant, but I sometimes get the feeling eddie is kookoo's alt account that takes replace-ins when he fucks up as a town lol

[Mohab500]

Vote tiam

[Mohab500]

If mort is scum and we got bambaloozed then so be it.

[Mohab500]

So you're scum?

[Mohab500]

A bit enjoyable to say the least.