Open 720: NOIR (GAME OVER)

[pinturicchio]

And before you say you're not overexplaining, I'm not talking about your read on me specifically, I mean on this game as a whole. Just look at your ISO, or your 3 in the morning post

[mutantdevle]

the only game we have finished together is a game where we were scum together

Want to know the scum metaread I have on you? You overexplain when you're scum. You don't feel the need to do that when you're town because your reads are almost always gutreads so you can't explain them very well, but when you start overexplaining that, there's a scumtell.

the only game we have finished together is a game where we were scum together

You don't feel the need to do that when you're town because your reads are almost always gutreads so you can't explain them very well, but when you start overexplaining that, there's a scumtell.

the only game we have finished together is a game where we were scum together

You don't feel the need to do that when you're town

the only game we have finished together is a game where we were scum together

So umm, how are you claiming to know what I do when I'm town? I think I just dismantled your case on me with your own words.

And for the record, my reads are NOT almost always gut reads. I rarely listen to my gut reads even though they are usually more accurate than my standard reads. Also, fun fact, my read on you right now is a gut read... and I've been struggling to explain it... so technically, you're describing my scum lean on you as a town!me action.

As for you defensive point about the fluff, I'll have to check your meta for that since, like you said, there was no fluff from you in our scum game. Taking that into account, you still feel odd though. And I don't like the way you've reacted to me pointing out I'm feeling pinged by you. I'm not even voting for you yet you have got so defensive over my comments of you and tried to twist my words into a case on me.

[mutantdevle]

I could even link you to town games of mine where I over explain things if you'd like? But honestly, I can't help but feel like you've developed that 'tell' on me from watching my 1 crappy and very long case I wrote about Gamma in our scum game.

That 1 moment from me does not define my scum game nor would I have considered it too far of a stretch from my town game.

[pinturicchio]

"Twist your words", haven't done that, I stated a case on you based on meta, and no, I've only played with you being scum together, but I read Stack the Deck where you were town

[pinturicchio]

Sorry I don't really know if the name of that game was Stack the Deck, it's the game that the worst linked here where Dino was moderator and NM was scum

[Alonzo]

Chronological observations

So for me Rvs was dominated by the Fumaki Claim and the fallout from it. ugh . wanted to strangle that slot through my screen. still do.

It is what it is, straight into the murk. Given the scummers an easy way through D1.
PL? absolutely, sorry maki. Its how I roll..

SO set against the background of RVS stupidity lets take a look at those who seek to make a bastard of logic off the back of RVS.

#121 oxys line 'this doesn't help me win this game' Is the first post that irks me off the back of Rvs.
#129 Fumaki taunting Oxy
#177 gotta be that last line from sando i guess
#184 More trash talk from Fumaki, i hate that 4th spoiler.

Against the background of these posts is the Mutant/Sandro/Worst interactions. There are a few who are running away in the post cout that i need to analyse further, but i think (and others have seen it too) there some AI reads coming from one player in particular there.

Something about the way ceejay flits in and out with reads seems off to me too. #hate for 198. I want to see more of an in depth logic read into why they feel like that.

Quick Vote on MDev #205 not sure i liked that swipe at sando. Quick has made some good points but that left a taste.
Liked They way sando fielded that one.

#209 uses very thin logic indeed. Even if its the truth.
#210 some buddying maybe? timing is everything

qucks #211 is a stand. Quick is showing his principles here.
disliked #213 in response
#218 more jank from worst . 234 and 235 are non commital.

Not Maf is an enigma. apparently. #243 is a tell.

[Alonzo]

I appreciate this is old news to the players with lots of time on their hands, but its just a few points of contention.

Fumakis next action was to subout, not sure how i feel about that.

[Quick]

I'm feeling pretty good about the way Oxy is handling the pressure.

Ignore the pressure from me and duckling for a second, what's the town motivation for the desire to go after someone's town-read like Oxy did?

I think it's harder to answer what the Scum motivation for doing that is, honestly. When players go against the grain, that is more often than not a sign that they are Town.

[Quick]

Ah, what are your thoughts on it?
I'm inexperienced too just like sharing ideas

You all did alright. I was expecting a lot of name calling and "noooo, youuu suck because so and so". Sooo some more townlean points I guess?

This post made me think about how there was a distinct lack of hostility between the worst, Sando and Oxy. Usually, these kinds of arguments can get quite heated and, whilst there was some frustration with each other, this argument remained calm. Now, this could just be because they are all calm people in general, but I'm taking it as further evidence that this was T&TvT.

TvT arguments are usually the OPPOSITE of what you are saying. Town usually gets pissed at each other.

[Quick]

I've got some trouble figuring out my town reads this game, so



I'm opening applications for my town core right now.
Anyone can apply, all you have to do is say you want in the town core.

It's as simple as that.

Fixed broken image tag. - Math

I don't need your permission to join the Town block, I already am on the Town block.

[Quick]

Also, Pin vs mutant is probably TvT.

[Alonzo]

Of the top 4

Oxy Null town ++
Devle Null town +
Quick Null town (strong)
The Worst Null scum ++

[Alonzo]

Vote: the Worst

[Alonzo]

Taking Questions for an hour or two before bed.

[Quick]

Taking Questions for an hour or two before bed.

You got a read on Sando?

[the worst]

Also, Pin vs mutant is probably TvT.

How did you reach that?

[the worst]

Of the top 4

Oxy Null town ++
Devle Null town +
Quick Null town (strong)
The Worst Null scum ++

Readslist now please.

[Quick]

Also, Pin vs mutant is probably TvT.

How did you reach that?

Their general attitude towards each other shows intent and not just the SvS kind. It reads like they are fighting each other earnestly and that most often comes from TvT.

[ceejayvinoya]

Also, Pin vs mutant is probably TvT.

How did you reach that?

Their general attitude towards each other shows intent and not just the SvS kind. It reads like they are fighting each other earnestly and that most often comes from TvT.

Idk I could see this as comig from TvS just as easily

[ceejayvinoya]

Vote the Worst

An explanation on why the worst is scum would be appreciated

[Quick]

Also, Pin vs mutant is probably TvT.

How did you reach that?

Their general attitude towards each other shows intent and not just the SvS kind. It reads like they are fighting each other earnestly and that most often comes from TvT.

Idk I could see this as comig from TvS just as easily

Who would be Scum in that situation? Little known fact is that SvT reads are the most difficult to spot and are wrong a huge majority of the time.

[Quick]

What the hell happened here. Like 10 pages to read at 6 in the morning, not fun. But I did, and Oxy vs Sando vs the worst is great content, don't miss it even if it's hard to read.

I currently have Pintu as a scum lean and, as I explained earlier, I don't know why. He just feels off this game, like his posts are pinging me but I really can't put my finger on why.

Tell me ONE thing that pings you that makes sense and I'll give you a pass, but you played scum with me and saying "I don't know why" and "he feels off this game" is absolutely nothing, just trying to put me in the top of mind of people with no explanation.

Mutant is scum, easy peasy Lemon Squeezy

Boi, I have literally been saying I don't know why and then here you come along and ask why. Cheap shot though not unexpected. It's not necessarily any posts in particular it's just you in general. You don't feel like you.

I just ISO'd you, and you're actually quite fluffy this game. I think that's what it is. You were never like that before. It feels like you care a lot less this game and as though you're not really trying.

I do feel like me. I always start with fluffy posts, either as town or scum. Almost all my finished games are games I replaced in, so I didn't have the chance to be on an RVS phase and troll around a little. The only game I've started and I haven't done this is the game we where scum together, and that's because that was my first scum game in this site and I was baffled with pro players like Dino (hi Dino <3), and the RVS there was a lot shorter than here. So you saying "you don't feel like you" when the only game we have finished together is a game where we were scum together pings me.

Want to know the scum metaread I have on you? You overexplain when you're scum. You don't feel the need to do that when you're town because your reads are almost always gutreads so you can't explain them very well, but when you start overexplaining that, there's a scumtell.

VOTE: mutant

the only game we have finished together is a game where we were scum together

Want to know the scum metaread I have on you? You overexplain when you're scum. You don't feel the need to do that when you're town because your reads are almost always gutreads so you can't explain them very well, but when you start overexplaining that, there's a scumtell.

the only game we have finished together is a game where we were scum together

You don't feel the need to do that when you're town because your reads are almost always gutreads so you can't explain them very well, but when you start overexplaining that, there's a scumtell.

the only game we have finished together is a game where we were scum together

You don't feel the need to do that when you're town

the only game we have finished together is a game where we were scum together

So umm, how are you claiming to know what I do when I'm town? I think I just dismantled your case on me with your own words.

And for the record, my reads are NOT almost always gut reads. I rarely listen to my gut reads even though they are usually more accurate than my standard reads. Also, fun fact, my read on you right now is a gut read... and I've been struggling to explain it... so technically, you're describing my scum lean on you as a town!me action.

As for you defensive point about the fluff, I'll have to check your meta for that since, like you said, there was no fluff from you in our scum game. Taking that into account, you still feel odd though. And I don't like the way you've reacted to me pointing out I'm feeling pinged by you. I'm not even voting for you yet you have got so defensive over my comments of you and tried to twist my words into a case on me.

Yeah, this strikes me as really obvious TvT or shitty distancing SvS.

[Quick]

And I will say that mutant came out smelling like a rose.

[Alonzo]

Taking Questions for an hour or two before bed.

You got a read on Sando?

I have agreed with a couple of his points and disagreed with one from the early game. Null town null maybe

Of the top 4

Oxy Null town ++
Devle Null town +
Quick Null town (strong)
The Worst Null scum ++

Readslist now please.

its on the stove, be ready soon

Vote the Worst

An explanation on why the worst is scum would be appreciated

Just re reading his ISO, Couldn't find any serious townposts, and considering we dropped a good townie due to the sheer amount of reading in this behemoth, Its obvious to me The worst is scum trying to look busy. But hes overdone it IMO and wouldn't be so agreeable and friendly as town.

[Quick]

Just re reading his ISO, Couldn't find any serious townposts, and considering we dropped a good townie due to the sheer amount of reading in this behemoth, Its obvious to me The worst is scum trying to look busy. But hes overdone it IMO and wouldn't be so agreeable and friendly as town.

If duckling is Scum here, you're probably dead tonight, you realize that I am sure.