I've read and reread that post.In post 670, Sando wrote:What the actual fuck? I literally posted what I believe is the motivation for scum vs town and you want to tell me I'm refusing to engage with motivation? Sando 523In post 660, Quick wrote:Okay, cool, so you refused to psychoanalyse people based on motivation and are just going to stick to "the facts." Good luck with that.
Just how much of an idiot are you?
You make a VERY fatal error in your theory though (and it is a theory): you assume people are "rational." People are NOT rational. People do illogical things all the time and this is actually MORE TRUE for Town than Scum. Scum want to fit in, they don't want to stick out. Also, for your read to be correct here, you have to assume the Scum players in question is reasonably better than average talking themselves out of pressure because it is a high risk play with not much reward for it given all you get is to get someone off the Town block temporarily and that is given it is successful. If a person is going to play like this, they are going to be playing an almost overly analytical game, which would then contradict the nature of sticking out in the first place.
In other words, you are using a tell that only works for a very specific kind of player and playing it off as though this is par for the course when it is not. In my experience as both a player and an observer, if someone is acting in a way that sticks out from the norm, they are more often Town than Scum unless they are the type of player who doesn't really do things "by the book" in which case, it's NAI.
Ofc I am speaking as someone through the experience they have of the game and am not really speaking as someone who is theorizing about what "correct play" is. Theories that require "correct play" lose a lot of the realistic expectation that I can gather from my experience of playing in so many games.
The type of player who would push a widely read as Town player in the attempt to keep them off the Town block is the type of player who is more charismatic by nature rather than analytical because this kind of play requires a lot of finnes of knowing as Scum what you can and cannot get away with.
All that said, what player were we talking about again? I should probably check that so that I can see whether they are more of an analytical vs charismatic player.