Geriatric Players Club

[Mulch]

I nominate this for worst thread for mafiascum of 2017

[Mulch]

This is a shit thread for multiple reasons, even more than the fact it's encouraging mass numbers to avoid certain people

[Mulch]

Mulch, seeing how we both happened to say that at the same time it's only fair I challenge you to a duel. May the worst man edit his post in shame.

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[Mulch]

This is a shit thread for multiple reasons, even more than the fact it's encouraging mass numbers to avoid certain people

So you're saying it's bad for people that don't want a certain kind of play to avoid said kind of play?

If anything that's good as that should lower the ammount of people getting fed up or overwhelmed by a game.

That's a separate point. My point: There should not be a group of players that globally blacklist people. It alienates them and is a form of bullying. It's not complicated. It's bad for site reputation as well.

In response to the bolded: YES. I think it's also shit for people to try and only play with a certain type of player. It hurts diversity and barrs the obtention of new knowledge.

Knowledge such as different ways people play, new tactics, etc.

It restricts the ability for you to grow as a player.

[Mulch]

Titus has been added on Gamma's recommendation.

Mulch has been added based on a quick review of Large Normal 205 (124 pages, Night 1), where he far surpasses Transcend and LUV, themselves prominent Kids These Days, to be the undisputed top poster.

Forget about that, look at Large 203. I had 1700 posts when most had around 600

[Mulch]

Titus has been added on Gamma's recommendation.

Mulch has been added based on a quick review of Large Normal 205 (124 pages, Night 1), where he far surpasses Transcend and LUV, themselves prominent Kids These Days, to be the undisputed top poster.

Forget about that, look at Large 203. I had 1700 posts when most had around 600

That's nothing to be proud of, if anything that's detrimental.

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[Mulch]

In 203 he was scum, so if they let him get away with it~.

U ruined it

[Mulch]

Let's continue this discussion in like 14 hours when I have more time lol

[Mulch]

Whenever people try to policy lynch me i vote myself and suddenly they get angry and unvote me quickly

[Mulch]

You would be so surprised at how many people get cold feet on a policy lynch when I say "yeah, I agree, best to remove myself from the game" and just vote myself lol. They get so annoyed and start berating me like "why the hell did you join??' and then I remind them that it was their idea to begin with, and then they usually unvote. Very powerful tactic

[Mulch]

Wtf does 94 mean

[Mulch]

Wtf does 94 mean

Someone tell me am I an idiot or is this completely, utterly incomprehensible?

[Mulch]

Making everyone have a percentage chance gun wouldent lower the % of hero shots or increase the percentage of shots on disruly players... Having no confirmability has nothing to do with that

[Mulch]

. Legit, someone using this strategy (especially as scum) is on the fast-path to victory

I'm never like this as scum

[Mulch]

You should try it as both alignments, maybe you'll be able to win more.

I have like an 80% win rate on this site

[Mulch]

I think long deadlines and wall posts are why towns do so badly on mafiascum and why they need to be stuffed with power roles

[Mulch]

This is the worst ruleset I've ever seen, how does anyone have fun

[Mulch]

This just in: you can now choose not to play in games you don't like

Oh believe me, I woulden't join one of these games if you paid me.

[Mulch]

I don't believe you

How much

[Mulch]

The fuck is your problem still, Mulch? Go the fuck away.

“Anger is a manifestation of a deeper issue... and that, for me, is based on insecurity, self-esteem and loneliness”



-Naomi Campbell

[Mulch]

This is the worst ruleset I've ever seen, how does anyone have fun

As long no one bugs considered "hyperposters" in non-geriatric games, this cult is fine.

Should we really be allowing cults in mafiascum is the question though? Especially when they could take players from normal games? Generally cults are frowned upon, and for good reason

[Mulch]

I bet mulch sits in McDonald's and complains about nuggets not being burgers.

Fuck was I that obvious????

[Mulch]

Get a job.

[Mulch]

Can anyone recommend a good website to play mafia on that allows trust tells like suicidal threats? This site meta is shit and severely holds back my potential.

PM me for details

[Mulch]

Spoiler:

This is the worst ruleset I've ever seen, how does anyone have fun

Mulch, this is a retreat from the overly posted in, less content filled games of late.

When I started playing mafia I modelled myself on a fantastic wall poster from my original site. They got so much info into each post and prompted responses of the same type. It was glorious!

My playstyle has changed with site meta, but I have found it almost impossible to play as there is so much speed but so little content to games nowadays. I would spend hours reading page upon page of games and learn nothing about people's alignments from them. Combined with a busy life I was forced into retirement because I could not keep up!

This ruleset offers players like me a chance to have fun again. A chance to enjoy Mafia like we used to! It is not for everyone, and I would never expect you to play in one. It is not your style nor is it your version of a fun game. But I, for one, am extremely glad it has been created!

Fair enough. I just find it to be a bit restrictive- and I think it sort of shames people with a different playstyle. I mean, in all fairness, I understand some people don't have the time to catch up/the want to not read posts. But I also think this playstyle (if it gets too common) could really drive people away from the site considering how harsh it can be. So as long as it stays a "cult" I think it's fine, but if it becomes super common, I think the site could really be hurt by it

[Mulch]

just ignore mulch, he's a hyperactive trolling piece of shit who ruins games with his presence

I see you are still harboring a lot of salt from last game- considering you said you "foed" me on "your first game" but I've actually only played one game with you . I know you townread me for my AtE and stuff but I don't think you should be taking that out on me. Keep in mind that this is just a mafia site. I understand that you probably have some ill feelings towards me, but no need to resort to this stuff.

[Mulch]

Sign me up for this. Would like to play a game under this ruleset or anything similar.

Of course this guy would sign up for this


A match

[Mulch]

Sign me up for this. Would like to play a game under this ruleset or anything similar.

Of course this guy would sign up for this


A match

fuck off

The bell rang already bud

[Mulch]

I see that you consider any criticism of your way of play bad faith

Not that I expected anything different; such is life

[Mulch]

I kinda understand why they think you're an asshole, Mulch. You're generating unwanted friction.

All criticism is unwanted friction

[Mulch]

I see that you consider any criticism of your way of play bad faith

Nah just yours

Because I’m the one that is criticizing first and loudest

Again, such is life

[Mulch]

Can someone post here the stats of mafia/town wins in geriatric games along with the setup?

Might be nice to get some stats

[Mulch]

Lurkers are more of a problem than spammers imo

[Mulch]

But then any time a player lurks after receiving a warning they would be confirmed mafia

[Mulch]

It’s possible we could, like, disallow lurking, even for mafia

God knows we need something to boost town winrates anyway

[Mulch]

But then any time a player lurks after receiving a warning they would be confirmed mafia

This is a bit much :/

Not really


<Mulch lurks
<presumably, Mulch gets warned
<Mulch starts lurking in next game. MafiaMulch.
<Mathdino: I did a comprehensive search of consisting of the entirety of your games on MS, and found out that you LURKED LAST GAME. You must have been warned. Why are you lurking again? Don't you care?
<Mullch:

[Mulch]

Alternative option: Make activity requirements harsher and blacklist lurkers

[Mulch]

Geriatric is scum sided

You need engagement to win games

[Mulch]

Geriatric allows me to engage rather than constantly be catching up

Apparently not

[Mulch]

Alternative option: Make activity requirements harsher and blacklist lurkers

Welp!

I'm going on a lot of blacklists then...


Also, shouldn't most of this be in a Geriatric Discussion thread?
Like, if we've stopped caring then cool. Just asking

No, not people like you lol

People that habitually flake out of games/0 post all game

[Mulch]

the issue seems to be people signing up for geriatric games who have no intention of staying active

Do you realize the irony of this

The very POINT of this is to create a haven for people that aren't active and can now lurk without consequences or repercussions.

(right)

If it's not, if you look at it pragmatically that's gonna be the result

Unless you have the PERFECT playerlist of people that don't post a lot, but are extremely active

I would say the problem of lurking is exacerbated by the ruleset.

[Mulch]

If you have the playerlist that doesn't post a lot but is extremely active, then there isn't a need for the geriatric ruleset.

Basicly, if Geriatrics want to play with Geriatrics, the need for the ruleset is negated.
If newer players WANT to play with Geriatrics, then there is a need for the ruleset.

Idunno if what I am saying makes sense but it makes sense to me in my head.

I understand what you are saying.

Consider 6 classifications
- Players that play/want geriatric but are engaged as good (Tier 1)
- Players that play/want geriatric but just lurk (Tier 2)
- Players that don't mind Geriatric, but are engaged and "good" (Tier 3)
- Players that don't mind Geriatric, but are "bad/disengaged"(Tier 4)
- Players that hate/do not play geriatric, but woulden't really ruin games/ are "good" (Tier 5)
- Players that hate/do not play geriatric and would hate it/ruin game (Tier 6)

Game full of 1=Ruleset not needed, would have a great game anyway

Game full of 1+2=Ruleset is bad, because lurking really hurts in geriatric games especially

Game full of 1+2+3= Ruleset is good, because it draws in Tier 3 that Tier 1 would not play with.

The first situation in which the rulset is good is when non-geriatric players are actually playing.

Game full of 1+2+3+4= Would say a straight null, hard to tell here.

Games full of 1+2+3+4+5=Almost non existent, because 5 would never join. Nevertheless, although low in frequency, the rulset would have a positive impact because it draws in 5.

Games full of 1+2+3+4+5+6=Complete Disasters, probably. Geriatric ruleset does nothing.

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and I'm too lazy to do the 6! combinations, but basically;

Tier 1 don't need it
Tier 2 it's bad
Tier 3 it's good
Tier 4 it's bad
Tier 5 it's good but infrequent
Tier 6 it's horrendous

[Mulch]

It’s called being realistic

And you guys don’t know what a false dichotomy is because I didn’t make one

[Mulch]

It’s called being realistic

And you guys don’t know what a false dichotomy is because I didn’t make one

What raging hard on do you have that makes you want to post constantly in a thread for a bunch of people who just wanna play games at their place without spam nonsense?

Like what the fuck

Get a life

You're the only one insulting and being aggresive, not me. Try to just act like a decent person, it's not like I'm doing anything wrong . I just wanna talk

[Mulch]

Mulch does this in everything I've had the misfortune of interacting with him in, he's one of the very few people I actively want removed from MS. He's an ass who feels the need to follow people around interjecting himself into everything (up to and including things that were literally created to avoid dealing with him) and just won't stop.

You don't harass people, stalk people off MS, organize other people to harass people or continue when people repeatedly ask you to stop. Why the fuck would we be aggressive to you, you haven't done anything at all bad?

Yo I have no idea why you hate me, or what these accusations are about, but this is the second time I’ve asked you to stop insulting me

You did it in site chat y/d and now here

I got no idea why you are obsessed with me

Maybe ignore my posts? I’ve got no beef with you, but you obviously dislike what I say

[Mulch]

Mulch has been asked a half dozen times to go away from this thread for being an asshole. It's so weird that his views are being welcomed. It's such a mystery. Gosh. So much mystery.

I don’t really think explaining my thoughts on this is being an asshole

I mean, even if it WAS none of my business, people comment on things they aren’t involved in all the time

But I personally think this stuff is adversely affecting the site as a whole

And I even took time to really flesh out my thoughts/go into detail/do analysis on why recently

/shrug

I don’t really want to listen to people that are being abusive/rude/mean anyway

[Mulch]

Yo, let's take it to PMs. (Or you can take it if you wanna say more stuff, I prob won't). No need to clutter up the thread

[Mulch]

What's LAL

[Mulch]

Does that stop the lurkers from doing it, or is that an actual strategy (ie you think it hits scum often)

[Mulch]

MS moderator right here folks

[Mulch]

I’m literally answering mathdino

If you consider that shitting on a thread you’ve got a problem