Geriatric Players Club

[TheButtonmen]

I could be interested in coming out of retirement for a geriatric game or two.

i thought you got clean poro now here we are debating if we should chase the dragon once more truly 2018 is a year of mistakes

if yall were to have a geriatric game run would you be interested in an open say like white flag or a mini-normal?

[TheButtonmen]

Open 715: White Flag
Setup: 3x Mafia Goon, 10x Vanilla Town note this game uses the Geriatric Ruleset
Mod: TheButtonmen
Players: 0/13

The time is now, come on and sign up.

[TheButtonmen]

Game is now running, 6 pages into Day 1 super easy to pick up!

It needs a replacement, if you're interested PM me.

[TheButtonmen]

we bringing back bam while we at it eh

[TheButtonmen]

Game is now running, early Day 2 still easy to pick up!

It needs a replacement, if you're interested PM me.

[TheButtonmen]

Game is now running, early Day 2 still easy to pick up!

It needs a replacement, if you're interested PM me.

Still open if anyone is interested!

[TheButtonmen]

mulchs entire thing is aggressively harassing people about things hes not even involved with recks no point arguing just toss him on ignore he wont stop regardless of how much you ask or argue with him

id be curious to see how geriatrics plays out in much smaller games like 4-7p micros which have a certain inherent speed to them to see if it does warp how games play out

geriatric vengefuls could be interesting

[TheButtonmen]

Mulch does this in everything I've had the misfortune of interacting with him in, he's one of the very few people I actively want removed from MS. He's an ass who feels the need to follow people around interjecting himself into everything (up to and including things that were literally created to avoid dealing with him) and just won't stop.

You don't harass people, stalk people off MS, organize other people to harass people or continue when people repeatedly ask you to stop. Why the fuck would we be aggressive to you, you haven't done anything at all bad?

[TheButtonmen]

I dislike having you around because you're shitty to people I like and keep on harassing them even after I've seen them ask you to stop because you view every interaction as some kind of pointless fight you have to win and you completely disregard boundaries to do so, it's off putting and makes you easily the least pleasant person I can think of on MS now that we got rid of RC/UN.

Like this was literally a thread made for people who didn't want to play with people like yourself and you've spammed your way to almost having the most posts here. A thread were people just wanted to connect with people with similar tastes to themselves and organize some fun games you've kicked in the door, shit on the rug and knocked over the punch bowl. You've repeatedly refused to leave when asked and now you're acting offended people don't like having you around, grow the fuck up. How fucking dare we have fun in a way you don't agree with, how dare we enjoy each others company and play silly games on the internet improperly eh?

You do keep on doing this in every situation I've seen you in, we will treat you with respect when you treat you actually start to treat us with some.

[TheButtonmen]

This didn't need to be a fight Mulch, this could have just been some scummers organizing some games and having a good time with parts of the community that aren't around as much anymore.

Thanks for shitting on it.

[TheButtonmen]

None of us are the community you keep telling other people how they can and can't feel about Mulch and that isn't really something you can do either. I don't give a shit if you like mulch and think he's a great guy, none of that changes how his actions are reprieved by others. Do shitty things, get considered shitty regardless of how cool MathDino thinks you are.

I took five minutes to skim this thread to help you understand;
[spoiler="Responses to Mulch's presence here]

I bet mulch sits in McDonald's and complains about nuggets not being burgers.

lmao it's not anger but annoyance, you're like a mosquito that wont go away

Mulch was clearly trolling here, and was responded to in the way he was because of that.

Why don't you go the fuck away?

This is blatant trolling. Mulch was being a total asshole no matter what lens you're looking at this under.

I kinda understand why they think you're an asshole, Mulch. You're generating unwanted friction.

Not only is this thread only supposed to be for organizing games now, there are literally two separate threads to take a pick amongst for criticizing geriatric games.

How did someone

still

manage to find this thread and complain?

It's more about you being obtuse and disrespectful, rehashing the same unfounded arguments and refusing to acknowledge any counterpoints, and insisting on shitting up this thread when others have been made for you to post your complaints in.

Mulch, you don't need to be here if you don't like this fun little ruleset. You especially don't need to be in our thread for finding games, as there's now literally three other discussion threads where you could continue to complain about it now. You're here intentionally commenting and making personal attacks for absolutely no reason.

Mulch has been asked a half dozen times to go away from this thread for being an asshole. It's so weird that his views are being welcomed. It's such a mystery. Gosh. So much mystery.

gtfo if you're going to be Mr. Negativity, Mulch.

fuck off

Mulch, please don't post here unless you have something to contribute to the ruleset. Thanks.

[/spoiler]

This is just one part of one thread, this is Mulch in a nut shell.

[TheButtonmen]

I think shea summed it up best.

Guys wtf! Can we have some civil discourse instead of shitting on Mulch!?
Holy crap!

Person A: Acts like a gigantic asshole.
Person B: Hey, asshole. Stop being an asshole.
Person C: OMG WHY IS EVERYONE BEING SO MEAN TO PERSON A.

In this situation the issue isn't with the people who are responding to someone being an asshole to them, its with person deliberately coming into this thread to start drama and attack people. The responses have actually been remarkably civil given how shitty mulch is being.

But sure, ari. The people responding to the asshole are the ones at fault here.

You may not like me, you may not like certain games or play styles and that's cool, that stuff's subjective I get it. But I repeat again this didn't need to be a fight or a debate, this could have just been some scummers organizing some games and having a good time with parts of the community that aren't around as much anymore. Ask yourself what do you actually have to gain by doing it or why Mulch should be tolerated when so many people have asked him to stop?

[TheButtonmen]

I HAVE told Mulch to fuck off before. This was never a question of his character, or of my opinion of him. You brought that question back into the thread.

You pulled quotes from months ago instead of answering my question. There wasn't a single post he made after I opened the thread again for discussion, that was trolling, harassing, disrespectful, or otherwise toxic.

I asked for discussion. Mulch provided a reasonable viewpoint. You, among others, shot back with personal attacks that derailed it again, rather than even addressing the discussion. That is what turned this into a fight.

And if you're upset about this being turned into a debate, again, you should be mad at me, because I've been discussing the townsided/scumsided debate for the past few pages now. The ruleset is vulnerable to inactive mods and inactive players, and appears to be MORE vulnerable than average games on MS. That was the topic.

That quote happens to accidentally include Ari's 354 which, incidentally, I agree with. I don't have a personal problem with you, but you guys are absolutely being the aggressors in this situation.

....Wasn't an accidental inclusion I literally selected the quote I did for a reason.

I don't always agree with you on stuff but you've never gone out of your way to be shitty to anyone or deliberately gone trolling for no reason why would we be angry at you? I mean I don't get what you're setting out to prove or what you're trying to accomplish but I mean you do you, if you don't like Geriatric games then don't join them or if you do then feel free to join them? This wasn't created to make a more balanced version of Mafia, it was created to make games where people could still get a chance to play even if they've got limited free time or preferred the meta of yesteryear.

I personally find the fact that we get a chance to play with people like MoI or Pine again far more important then if the town EV dropped 4% or whatever but to each their own.

Edit: If you got any further issues with me feel free to toss me a PM, if Mulch is out of the thread then I'm quite happy to leave it here.

[TheButtonmen]

When did LaL die off?

It was on its way out in 2013ish when I stopped being active on the mafia side regularly but it definitely still was a thing.

[TheButtonmen]

I remember Yos pushing it through multiple times, he was one of its larger proponents but others at least supported it as a good tool to push lurkers to get involved or get hung.

[TheButtonmen]

Vig all lurkers kind of was a thing.

A wonderful wonderful thing!

Really see it was the other side of the coin to the scums ability to shape discussion, vigs ability to shape the game is so much greater then just what they get done at night.

[TheButtonmen]

I think there is an issue where player attracted to geriatrics are more likely to have full time career jobs and / or family responsibilities. I think that if you're moving to that method you might want to do some reading about Vi's battery shenanigans as another route worth exploring.

[TheButtonmen]

You've been asked repeatedly to leave, this thread is explicitly about organizing games where people can avoid your playstyle, you were literally warned by a purple to stop. You won't stop.

Why are you even here, what are you trying to accomplish other then just relentlessly being a shit to people just trying to organize some games and have a good time, is that so terrible? Asking you to stop politely doesn't work, asking rudely doesn't work and trying to shame you sure as hell doesn't, at what point other then going to purples and getting you banned will you stop?

[TheButtonmen]

Considering he was being such a shit that a purple stepped in the last time.

Mulch, please don't post here unless you have something to contribute to the ruleset. Thanks.

I think you'd be surprised, it's happened multiple times before. I can think of a couple threads where Shea was removed from previously as well as Panzer off the top of my head.

[TheButtonmen]

You will notice a lot of us old timers are basically complete dicks but we at least had some common ground of if you can't say contribute something nice to the thread then piss the fuck off and stop raining on our parade. It allowed our community to function even though we all had the social skills of a rabid badger on a particularly ornery day.

Mulch is a parade rainer who has been asked to leave multiple times and he refuses.

What about him is defensible?

[TheButtonmen]

I believe my stance on anime (it's trash) and anime avatars (anyone using one should be banned) is fairly well established at this point but have you even seen me going to the Anime Discussion thread to shit on anime and insult the posters there? Absolutely not because for all that I'm a dick at least I draw the line at harassing people and trying to ruin their fun. If I'd very rightfully get a warning if I did and be removed if I continued.

Mulch is the kind of person who does do that and then will continue to repeatedly harass people outside of the thread too, hell he's the kind of person that will harass them outside of MS. He has zero respect for other people and then gets all huffy when people don't show respect for him.

[TheButtonmen]

.....That post is literally him coming here us that the ruleset shouldn't exist and that games using it are bad.

I get that you guys don't like it, it's not for everyone and that's fine. MS is big enough for more then one clique of people, not everyone's playstyles will gel well together but man what's so wrong with live and let live. We aren't concerned that town EV could be hurt by it, we're stoked that our old friends can come back and play mafia with us. That's amazing, I get that you haven't been here for very long but surely there's some scummers you've really enjoyed playing with right? Wouldn't you want to play with them again even if it meant that potentially the rule set potentially could help scum? What do someone gain by coming to a thread that has literally no impact on them and being an arse?

Seriously it's boggling my mind that I'm the one having to explain playing nicely with others to people, you all need to go reflect on the fact that it's TBM telling you to show some basic decency to people.

[TheButtonmen]

I made a post prior to that saying that the ruleset isn't needed and he quoted that and analyzed it.
Am I telling you that the ruleset is bad and shouldn't exist?

You absolutely are and I really don't understand why you're going out of you way to shit on people organizing games to play with their friends. However you at least show people respect, you aren't a serial harasser or bully. My first real impression of Mulch was from him stalking people from MS onto discord just to continue to harass them for doing things he disagreed with and it's only gotten worse since then. Like you do realize there's a reason some many people are hating on him right? We've seen how he treats people and have zero desire to spend more time with him.

I wish you'd stop raining on people parade for the crime of wanting to play silly internet games with their friends but I don't object to you even being allowed on MS. I do object to Mulch and will be extremely satisfied when he is eventually banned.

[TheButtonmen]

We are all here to play a silly game on the internet, I don't like theme games but I'm totally okay with the fact that you do. I love tiny open micro's that you'd hate and that's fine too right?

It's the same for Geriatric's, some people will hate it, some will love it and maybe one faction wins a few more games then another but at the end of the day who really cares? We are a bunch of weirdo's playing a subpar party game on the internet with strangers if we're having fun doing it and getting a chance to play with some cool cats we haven't seen in a while then who's it hurting?

If you guys bump this everytime a game ends to try to prove that a bunch of internet nerds having a good time are causing scum to win more often then they should then I'd really question what exactly you're trying to accomplish when you're claiming to be productive.

[TheButtonmen]

fucking theme games and them expecting me to read goddamn flavour text

what do they think this is some kinda book club