Star Wars (Spoilers)

[Ginngie]

I just don't think every little thing needs to be spelled out nor should it be in any movie. That's how you ruin shit.

It'll probs be said yeah not comparable but everyone hated how the force was labeled as the midiclorians or whatever

the mystery is fun

[Ginngie]

Okay

So this is Star Wars

lets not kid ourselves in that literally every single movie

everything goes perfectly

LITERALLY

everything

Everyone that was killed in the prequels died because lol!plot

As for the OT

Deathstar blown up first try

No one dead

luke doing badass training

Lando betrays everyone but it's okay because he's a good guy again for no real reason

Han is frozen but lol!opening scene for badassery

Death Star blown up again

Literally no one ever dies that is important except for Darth Vader and the plans always work out peachy



NOW YOU GET THE LAST JEDI

Everyone is a fucking failure
1. Entire bombing crew is dead
2. All the ships get fucked on escape
3. Tiny rebel force is getting their shit kicked in by the hilariously overpowered First Order, AND RIGHTLY SO
4. They can't get a codebreaker worth a damn
5. They hire a rat who ends up BEING A RAT
6. Their escape plan from the escape plan gets fucked as well
7. NO ONE WANTS TO HELP THE REBELS, AINT HOPE FOR SHIT
8. Finn would either die destroying the cannon while no help comes to save the rebels(since Luke wasn't real, he was just a diversion for them to escape)
9. Finn failing and the door getting blown open


So a quick recap, the rebels get bent over backwards and are barely surviving with no one giving a shit about them.

What's pissing a lot of people of is I think they're mad they don't get the escapism effects like all the other movies and we're stuck with a realist point of view.

[Ginngie]

ALSO CRAZY IDEA BUT I THINK IT WAS SNOKE WHO SAID THAT REY AND KYLO WERE EQUALS AND THEY WOULD KEEP GROWING STRONGER WITH EACH OTHER

I'M KINDA HOPEFUL THAT THESE TWO ARE ACTUALLY RELATED TO "THE ONES" THAT WE SAW IN STAR WARS THE CLONE WARS


ALSO STAR WARS THE CLONE WARS IS CONSIDERED CANON SO I CAN MAKE THIS CLAIM

[Ginngie]

droids are able to hack into an entire war starship and learn all of it's plans and pilot other aerial vehicles so I mean, totally understandable.

Also yeah btw, hate that Rose bitch

Rose-arc literally looks like a fan girl won a raffle ticket to write the scene

like think tumblr, and then what Rose did, and it's a perfect match

[Ginngie]

I really liked the movie but I wish the movie had more Finn
Also less rose, didn’t care for her

Also was I insane for thinking they were setting Finn to be a Jedi as well during force awakens?

Ya i couldn't tell till the end of the movie that Finn wasn't going to have any force powers during that movie

[Ginngie]

Also isn't Poe part of main characters like Finn and Rey?

He's like so forgettable to me and I cant tell if he was in the first one or not

[Ginngie]

No, rose is a bitch lmao i stand by it

[Ginngie]

can you tell me one good thing rose did for the movie

[Ginngie]

you're fucking joking with me right

what memo did you get where apparently you can't call anyone a bitch?

[Ginngie]

I solved the mystery, you're hella uptight and I dont care.

Maybe focus on star wars discussion instead of fighting over something as petty as this.

[Ginngie]

seriously fuck off if you're not gonna talk about star wars

[Ginngie]

Children of the Ones is what i want lmao

[Ginngie]

They’re not rare at all if Qui Gon Jin can go to some random moon and meet that one flying blue guy who happens to have one

[Ginngie]

They’re not rare at all if Qui Gon Jin can go to some random moon and meet that one flying blue guy who happens to have one

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/TheSW ... 088079351/

Isn’t a cruise missle like 1 million a piece?

And this post is saying it can cost from 10k to 5mill

For that damage to cost ratio

Holy shit right

[Ginngie]

Where can i see Get Out?

[Ginngie]

Get Out > Disaster Artist > The Last Jedi


And there are 2 major problems with people complaining about the Holdo Maneuver.

1) They presuppose that if a military tactic has been completed successfully, everyone must have always known that was always a possibility in all the times previous and LOLYDIDNTTHEYDOTHATEARLIER, which is, you know, not how anything works in the history of human anything ever. Why didn't Mozart rip wicked ass guitar solos with whammy pedals and sick LFO drops on the harp?

2) It's not an effective technique moving forward, at the very least not for the Rebels. Hyperdrives are expensive, and they're basically out of ships. It can be argued that the First Order could pull off these tricks but you still need right time and setting; the destroyer that Holdo crashed into was busy shooting at the escaping vessels instead of moving. So you need a very large object to crash into another very large object while the second object is also very distracted and thus unable to maneuver out of the path of destruction.

This doesn't really change much of anything moving forward irt space battles. Go complain about other things that are ridiculously more... ridiculous. Like gravity in space. Or dead people flying in the vacuum of space and oh she's also alive and also now in a coma because all of that adds up god I fucking hate that scene.

Honestly i will agree if she died right there i would have been very happy

[Ginngie]

let's just say releasing the bombs exerted a slight downward motion to them, making them travel "down." Perhaps each has a springed lever that when the restraining device is removed, pushes it. And pushing it in space does not meet air resistance, so it just keeps moving in the same direction. Presumably bombers designed like that would have SOME mechanism for getting the bombs to travel out of the ship unless you think the bombardier manually grabs one and chucks it down normally.

This was like... the least concerning thing about the movies, which have always taken a pretty loose interpretation of the effects of space. For example, we sure hear a lot of noises from space battles!

Okay i will say what got me upset was the fact that when the first order was shelling the shit out of the rebels, the lasers somehow had an arc to them

THEY DONT LIKE THE FUCK ITS A LASER IN SPACE

[Ginngie]

Who the fuck is going to kamikaze a death star

Hold my beer

[Ginngie]

Wow Rogue One is so low tier and it’s one of my favorites

[Ginngie]

It’s worth it for the very final scene

[Ginngie]

How

[Ginngie]

If the darth Vader scene gave you no joy then i am so sorry for you

[Ginngie]

For a huge critic of star wars movies I dont get how you dont know the simple stuff



Oh what was darth vader doing during the beginning of a new hope?

Having his presence be there in the very beginning boarding the escape ship.



what was darth vader doing during the end of rouge one(the bloody prequel to a new hope)?

Chasing the bloody ship they escaped in.

It's really fucking simple and I dont get how you can complain about that.

[Ginngie]

That was just me answering point 1

[Ginngie]

2. It's filmed in this weird way that makes it seem like Vader is awesome and we're supposed to cheer him on. We just had a movie where supposedly we're supposed to care about the people who did all this stuff to help the rebellion. But the movie ends (other than Leia's "hope" thing) with Vader being badass. Like now we're supposed to cheer on this horrible embodiment of everything that the crew was giving their lives to defeat? It's so weird and inappropriate.

I actually think this point is up to the interpreter because what I get from the scene is what I think makes a great villain; one who makes you think "oh fuck, everyone's fucked" and have this fear factor like "oh what is he gonna do" and I do expect it to be a spectacle, a thrill I guess I'd call it.

Also I remember watching it in theatres and when people were dying and the beam finally wiped out the surface I was sad and shit, kinda depressing but after the Vader scene I was so hype and happy and leaving the theatre I could come out all excited and talk in this elated tone. So not to end it on a sad note, they put in that scene to lift up your spirits so you come out happy.


Dunno if that makes sense, hope it does.

[Ginngie]

the first point was "This is supposed to be a self-contained narrative centering around Jyn Erso and yet the showstopping climax and finale is all centered around Vader, rendering Jyn's story obsolete"

So when Jyn Erso dies the movie is just supposed to end right there?

When she's dead she can literally no longer be part of the movie

[Ginngie]

As for point 3 about Darth Vader slaughtering goons

I mean yeah you have a point but like, what else do you expect him to do, like there really isn't any jedi to fight.

[Ginngie]

It's so hard to talk about something subjective :/

[Ginngie]

if it made me happy then it cant be a bad film lmfao

not in my perspective lmao

[Ginngie]

I'm so confused

If I got entertainment value and enjoy rewatching the whole thing over and over

how does it somehow fail me?

[Ginngie]

I think where you're at fault is thinking I only enjoy the Darth Vader scene when in reality I enjoyed every bit of the movie and that's the story

[Ginngie]

Can someone tell me what they mean by Luke isn’t like Luke

[Ginngie]

I don’t remember this scene?

[Ginngie]

it's feel pretty freaking weird if old luke went through all the events of the original trilogy, the founding of the jedi school, the turning to the dark side of his pupil and still whined about going to tasche station to get power converters.

Was this a response to why is Luke not like Luke?

[Ginngie]

It's also quite possible that there will be some setup for X-XII which could be interesting.

The next trilogy is supposed to be unrelated to literally everything

[Ginngie]

Wait wat

[Ginngie]

That’s not saying there will be an X through XII

[Ginngie]

Okay?

That was just saying what i just said already

[Ginngie]

http://collider.com/star-wars-the-force ... s-rip-off/

JJ Abrams made it quite clear that he made the same story but added like one or two new elements.

[Ginngie]

if you read that and take away "rip off" youre really dumb

I read it as he took the same plot and added one or two elements and called it a movie

That's literally what it is.

[Ginngie]

The story of history repeating itself was, I believe, an obvious and intentional thing, and the structure of meeting a character who comes from a nowhere desert and discovers that she has a power within her, where the bad guys have a weapon that is destructive but that ends up being destroyed — those simple tenets are by far the least important aspects of this movie, and they provide bones that were well-proven long before they were used in Star Wars.

So I understand that this movie, I would argue much more than the ones that follow, needed to take a couple of steps backwards into very familiar terrain, and using a structure of nobodies becoming somebodies defeating the baddies — which is, again, I would argue, not a brand new concept, admittedly

The director bloody says he's reusing material to launch his story

[Ginngie]

those simple tenets are by far the least important aspects of this movie, and they provide bones that were well-proven long before they were used in Star Wars.

reading is hard huh

those

simple tenets

are

by far the least important aspects of this movie

least important doesn't mean that he didn't do something

All I'm bloody saying

Is that he reused a lot of material from A New Hope

and he fucking said he did

is that not clear?

[Ginngie]

So you're going to deny that JJ used material from the previous movie?

Even when he said he did

[Ginngie]

like you can't answer a simple question yes or no

[Ginngie]

If I’m honest i like the movies because things go pew pew and boom really loudly

[Ginngie]

The thing I hate about the 3rd trilogy is that I still have a hard time remembering the characters

[Ginngie]

Children of the Ones is what i want lmao

[Ginngie]

how did the discussion even come up regarding her parents?

like

if they're never in the movie

they shouldn't hold relevance

idunno explain to me

[Ginngie]

No one cares about Snoke.

Is this the fault of the audience or of the directors?