Open 720: NOIR (GAME OVER)

[MOMOMEN]

^ look at what i mean. overarticulation, but i also forgot to mention wishy washy reads.

[ceejayvinoya]

Ladder of town reads down to scum reads:

{Oxy, Sando}
{Quick, the worst}
{Alonso}
{MOMOMEN, Not_Mafia, randommidget, Iconeum}
{Ceejay}
{Korina, Pintu}

What did Alonzo do that puts him higher than half the player list? Why is korina still at the bottom despite the fact that there is nothing to read on her for days now (if you have something earlier in the game that points to her being scum, I'd like to see it)? Do you have anything more concrete on Pintu than "my gut says so"? Also would like to see something on why The_Worst is a tr.

Point out where I've been critical of other people's readlists?

[pisskop]

Spoiler: page5

Sup?

No self hammering in this game unless you are Scum. Hopefully we can all agree with this.

che?

Notice how in 11, korina is already in my head.

spooky

Is that like a fleshlight??

gdi.
always that one guy, isn't there?

Vote Spartan

Ummm quotes others, votes this?

Not Voting

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(5)

: pinturicchio, Spartan117, Quick, Iconeum, Fumuki

omg mod, I was going to make a programming joke, but this formatting is brilliant!

Hi, Mafia Rolecop here partners

Distinctly more likely to be towny than scummy

Hold on I'll get a link to the scumchat for you

If this gets serious anytime within a few pages, its scummy.

Vote- Fumuki

Easy scumread is easy. i mean that both as my own read of alonzo and alonzo's of fuki.

wtf

why are you voting me Quick...?

That's not how we planned in the chat...

Getting old now . . .

Happy birthday Alonzo! Here's a present for you
VOTE: Alonzo

omg Pinto! You're town here?!

Hm...I don't believe it. No one is voting in ceejayvinoya even after all the effort I put in that theory...suspicious...

VOTE: pinturicchio

Stop joking now.

Suggestion: instead of lynching people we should instead throw them into the pit of misery?

towny

Korina is Town, just thought I would share that with you all.

errrrt

Why?

When everything is a reaction test, nothing is.

Absolutely everything I do is for reactions. Cross voting, brief one-liners, all RTs. And if you think I won't drag out emotions to sort my needs then you're delusional.

I hope it comes soon. I prefer it to town claiming scum. =/

IDEK how to respond to this >:o

By being my second scumread is apparently how.

You know what, I'm gonna keep policy lynching the scum claims.

VOTE: Fumuki

This would be scummy were it not immediately preceded in 81 by a vote on something else.

@Mod

Prod Spartan

This scum marine is too lurky right now

hunh. Not bad.

HURT: duckling

Annnnnnnd bored of rvs

[ceejayvinoya]

WK?

White Knighting. Heavily defending another player.

[Quick]

^ look at what i mean. overarticulation, but i also forgot to mention wishy washy reads.

I said he was over articulate a long time ago and then I change my read on him because I think it aligns with his personality.

[Sando]

overarticulation, but i also forgot to mention wishy washy reads.

Ok what's the problem with over-articulation? I've deliberately tried to contribute to the general pace of the game in the idea that scum are going to struggle to keep up in a meaningful way...mutant hasn't, he's kept us quite nicely tbh. He responds in a once a day huge-post rather than sticking it out in real time, but that seems to be his style rather than a tactic.

His town reads are a lot worse than his scum reads imo. Quick is towniest to me, despite being...not very good, but yeah me, Oxy and Duck deserve 2nd teir townie at most.

Scumreads, I mean if they're easy mislynches then that's because people scumread them...Scumreading an easy mislynch is either a) townies seeing them in their natural habitat and reacting like normal or b) scummies knowing they're an easy mislynch and pushing that through. Why is this particular scumread on easy mislynches scummy? Sure you think Korina is obv-town, but I certainly don't, and there's been too many people this game who don't for you to think we're all scum. So what are you looking for to differentiate between (a) and (b).

[Quick]

overarticulation, but i also forgot to mention wishy washy reads.

Ok what's the problem with over-articulation? I've deliberately tried to contribute to the general pace of the game in the idea that scum are going to struggle to keep up in a meaningful way...mutant hasn't, he's kept us quite nicely tbh. He responds in a once a day huge-post rather than sticking it out in real time, but that seems to be his style rather than a tactic.

His town reads are a lot worse than his scum reads imo. Quick is towniest to me, despite being...not very good, but yeah me, Oxy and Duck deserve 2nd teir townie at most.

Scumreads, I mean if they're easy mislynches then that's because people scumread them...Scumreading an easy mislynch is either a) townies seeing them in their natural habitat and reacting like normal or b) scummies knowing they're an easy mislynch and pushing that through. Why is this particular scumread on easy mislynches scummy? Sure you think Korina is obv-town, but I certainly don't, and there's been too many people this game who don't for you to think we're all scum. So what are you looking for to differentiate between (a) and (b).

You should judge me based on the content I create rather than me reads. Otherwise, I'd like to know why I am bad? I've maintained about a 50% win rate as Town on this site for a long time, so please tell me why I am bad.

[MOMOMEN]

overarticulation is part of devle's wolf range. yes, i read all the gamess he linked, and this seems to align with his wolf game.

[Quick]

overarticulation is part of devle's wolf range. yes, i read all the gamess he linked, and this seems to align with his wolf game.

Links or it didn't happen.

[Alonzo]

So Re the worst, Having reviewed that iso a couple of times now, Im getting a feeling for the player.

I have decided to downgrade you rating to null scum + and take a look at another player on that list.

This doesnt mean I dont still SR the slot, but im not going to death tunnel like i thought i was the other night.
Other things have happened since that read that I would prefer to spend my time looking at for the moment.

[Sando]

This would be where I would say over-articulation isn't a problem with mutant per-se.

Overarticulation here too

[MOMOMEN]

I don't like how quickly all of the sudden Mutant is getting these votes. Seem like a Scum fabricated wagon to me.

except it's very clearly an organic wagon with mainly town votes on it

That is very easy to claim and very difficult to back up so I am going to have to ask you to tell me how you know that.

the speed a wagon forms isnt ai for starters

-eddie

[MOMOMEN]

if you can't tell me who the scum are, you can't throw out the blanket statement that it's scum produced. speed of wagon means nothing if the composition is entirely villa.

gtfo

I will defer to my experience than... Most of the time when a wagon grows that fast, it's not on Scum.

...because most of the time when a wagon forms it's not on scum. probably 85% of the time in fact.

[MOMOMEN]

overarticulation is part of devle's wolf range. yes, i read all the gamess he linked, and this seems to align with his wolf game.

Links or it didn't happen.

I didn't post the above, but it literally says the games he linked so I'm not sure what links you're asking for

[Quick]

I don't like how quickly all of the sudden Mutant is getting these votes. Seem like a Scum fabricated wagon to me.

except it's very clearly an organic wagon with mainly town votes on it

That is very easy to claim and very difficult to back up so I am going to have to ask you to tell me how you know that.

the speed a wagon forms isnt ai for starters

-eddie

LOL.

[Quick]

if you can't tell me who the scum are, you can't throw out the blanket statement that it's scum produced. speed of wagon means nothing if the composition is entirely villa.

gtfo

I will defer to my experience than... Most of the time when a wagon grows that fast, it's not on Scum.

...because most of the time when a wagon forms it's not on scum. probably 85% of the time in fact.

so what makes this one different?

[Quick]

overarticulation is part of devle's wolf range. yes, i read all the gamess he linked, and this seems to align with his wolf game.

Links or it didn't happen.

I didn't post the above, but it literally says the games he linked so I'm not sure what links you're asking for

Obviously I am looking for examples of how his game is similar/different here.

[MOMOMEN]

I don't like how quickly all of the sudden Mutant is getting these votes. Seem like a Scum fabricated wagon to me.

except it's very clearly an organic wagon with mainly town votes on it

That is very easy to claim and very difficult to back up so I am going to have to ask you to tell me how you know that.

the speed a wagon forms isnt ai for starters

-eddie

LOL.

LOL.

[MOMOMEN]

if you can't tell me who the scum are, you can't throw out the blanket statement that it's scum produced. speed of wagon means nothing if the composition is entirely villa.

gtfo

I will defer to my experience than... Most of the time when a wagon grows that fast, it's not on Scum.

...because most of the time when a wagon forms it's not on scum. probably 85% of the time in fact.

so what makes this one different?

Do you understand how math works?

[Quick]

if you can't tell me who the scum are, you can't throw out the blanket statement that it's scum produced. speed of wagon means nothing if the composition is entirely villa.

gtfo

I will defer to my experience than... Most of the time when a wagon grows that fast, it's not on Scum.

...because most of the time when a wagon forms it's not on scum. probably 85% of the time in fact.

so what makes this one different?

Do you understand how math works?

No, I don't, explain it to me like I am 5.

[Oxy]

Dis, why is this a bad thing? Hey people who I think are scummy are on the wagon...that makes me dubious. Why is that bad logic?

His whole post is "Look at how I'm analyzing the wagon to decide if it's likely a good wagon or not. Isn't that townie?" but he couldn't have actually analyzed the wagon because then he would know who and how many votes were on there.

And he says this is normal for him

but for whom is faking wagon analysis a town tell?

[Sando]

I didn't post the above, but it literally says the games he linked so I'm not sure what links you're asking for

My 1060 lists two that I think are town that at least conform to this one in the overarticulating play-style. I'll admit to not being a good meta-reader, but I think it's reasonable to ask for more than "this conforms to his wolf rather than town" when examples are readily available.

[Quick]

if you can't tell me who the scum are, you can't throw out the blanket statement that it's scum produced. speed of wagon means nothing if the composition is entirely villa.

gtfo

I will defer to my experience than... Most of the time when a wagon grows that fast, it's not on Scum.

...because most of the time when a wagon forms it's not on scum. probably 85% of the time in fact.

so what makes this one different?

[MOMOMEN]

I didn't post the above, but it literally says the games he linked so I'm not sure what links you're asking for

My 1060 lists two that I think are town that at least conform to this one in the overarticulating play-style. I'll admit to not being a good meta-reader, but I think it's reasonable to ask for more than "this conforms to his wolf rather than town" when examples are readily available.

I'll let my better half reply because hes the one who said it.

[MOMOMEN]

if you can't tell me who the scum are, you can't throw out the blanket statement that it's scum produced. speed of wagon means nothing if the composition is entirely villa.

gtfo

I will defer to my experience than... Most of the time when a wagon grows that fast, it's not on Scum.

...because most of the time when a wagon forms it's not on scum. probably 85% of the time in fact.

so what makes this one different?

think about what you're asking for 5 minutes and come back to me.