Product Placement Mafia (Game over!)

[northsidegal]

you think this is him attempting to play a regular scumgame (ie get townread by everyone)?

[northsidegal]

and i never specified acting weird to

get scumread

, just deliberately acting weird for one reason or the other.

[T-Bone]

Do you feel anyone else has produced more than a post's worth of game relevant content?

Because I don't.

eh, i'm bored and gamma's iso is short, going to do a mathdino-style full iso "lolcase"

nothing game related

totally NAI.

NAI,

still nothing game related

I don't think that's a scumtell in its own right but i don't see why gamma wouldn't just come out and say it or actually just use it to form a read on penguin and mention the tell.

nothing

probably not a sound conclusion but this is a lolcase so -shrug-

don't really like these votes

yeah i don't really feel like continuing this

but you get the gist, not really seeing any sorting or effort at sorting there

Ummm...

2 Yes, i do disagree, hence my votes.

I know I'm deleting a lot of the post, but yes you make my point that not a lot of game relevant content has happened...but pointing it all out in your lolcase on Gamma.

Yes, I do appreciate that you are throwing stuff at a wall and seeing if it sticks. That is totally fine and I wouldn't usually criticize something like that at this stage of the game. I don't get why you don't appreciate that I would want to spend time on something I feel is productive instead (which is sorting a player who has a lot of serious content)?

By the standard you are trying to impose, would it be fair to point out that my attempt to sort Cheeky is productive for the town (specifically for me)...but your 'lolcase' on Gamma is complete nonsense...by virtue of you handwaving everything you say with "but this is an lolcase"? I think it would be very fair for me to say that I'm doing something productive, and you aren't in these examples.

If you think it is scummy, so be it. But when you say "it is not a debate, I'm just noting a scumtell". Seems like you're inviting a debate to me, and one I am happy to have. Especially if you want to question something you find scummy...while simultaneously doing something scummy AND pointless.

is this your normal philosophy when it comes to voting? just checking.

Totally
Completely
and
Unequivocally

[Vaxkiller]

Why would you think that I think: he is scum deliberately acting weird?

[Vaxkiller]

Also didnt read posts BRB dota game in progress

[Firebringer]

I think hes acting weird and he is scum. Not deliberately acting weird to be scum read.

I think he said he was being weird intentionally to be weird.

So NAI

[northsidegal]

Why would you think that I think: he is scum deliberately acting weird?

I don't believe i ever insinuated this but i could see how it might be implicit in my question in 350. so i guess to just say the conclusion that i was going to say after you confirmed your answer, it's that i just feel like it's obvious that he's doing things deliberately. like, i've seen his scumgame before and it's

not

as overtly, in-your-face strange as he's been here.

also, he literally said that he's deliberately acting weird.

Mutant is being deliberately weird I'm pretty sure, not sure why

I feel like it.

[Firebringer]

I don’t really have read on mutant and think talking about him isn’t useful for progressing game.

But then again I don’t really have anything useful to talk about either.
No scumreads.


Anyone selling scumread rn?

[T-Bone]

Firebringer for $200

[Firebringer]

I already bought that.
I have buyers remorse.

[T-Bone]

Wait, I just want $200. Send it to my paypal.

[Firebringer]

I sent it to someone named Tbone.
Did you get it?

[northsidegal]

ugh, i can feel myself getting sucked into having a debate instead of playing mafia.

I know I'm deleting a lot of the post, but yes you make my point that not a lot of game relevant content has happened...but pointing it all out in your lolcase on Gamma.

i made the point that one player specifically has lots of non-game related content and simultaneously mentioned how that itself is game relevant in terms of being scum-indicative. so, i guess me making the point that one person doesn't have a lot of content doesn't prove any sort of rule that everyone or even most people have no AI content, and i certainly don't think it functions as any sort of explanation for not focusing on anyone except one player.

Yes, I do appreciate that you are throwing stuff at a wall and seeing if it sticks. That is totally fine and I wouldn't usually criticize something like that at this stage of the game. I don't get why you don't appreciate that I would want to spend time on something I feel is productive instead (which is sorting a player who has a lot of serious content)?

I'm not "throwing stuff at a wall and seeing if it sticks". I have a scumread on Gamma. If you consider it to be somehow lesser or somehow less valid than any other scumread then i'd be interested to hear why.

By the standard you are trying to impose, would it be fair to point out that my attempt to sort Cheeky is productive for the town (specifically for me)...but your 'lolcase' on Gamma is complete nonsense...by virtue of you handwaving everything you say with "but this is an lolcase"? I think it would be very fair for me to say that I'm doing something productive, and you aren't in these examples.

If you think it is scummy, so be it. But when you say "it is not a debate, I'm just noting a scumtell". Seems like you're inviting a debate to me, and one I am happy to have. Especially if you want to question something you find scummy...while

simultaneously doing something scummy

AND pointless.

What "standard" am i trying to "impose"? (emphasis on the scarequotes there)

for one, i don't think i handwaved much more than the kind of crazy theories i came up with in that (like gamma trying to imitate his catchup style by talking about the drinks thing). it was meant to serve as a demonstration of where my read on Gamma was coming from given that other people seemed to disagree on what i was seeing there. in that respect i don't think anything there couldn't be called "productive".

i never even called what you were doing out as a scumtell in the first place, it was just something that i noticed and i felt it a good way to segway into a conversation.

finally, just for clarification – what are you saying is scummy that i've done? the lolcase? (bolded)

[northsidegal]

I don’t really have read on mutant and think talking about him isn’t useful for progressing game.

But then again I don’t really have anything useful to talk about either.
No scumreads.


Anyone selling scumread rn?

Gamma

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

You had me at G

[Vaxkiller]

Why would you think that I think: he is scum deliberately acting weird?

I don't believe i ever insinuated this

"mutant is scum who's deliberately acting weird"

I mean you wrote it.


Still play dota... have other points.

[northsidegal]

@tbone – I'd like to clarify that throughout none of this have i had even a mild scumread on you – i still would most likely not vote you over other people, and if you've interpreted anything that i've said to you as some sort of attack or scumread then you've misinterpreted there.

[northsidegal]

Why would you think that I think: he is scum deliberately acting weird?

I don't believe i ever insinuated this

"mutant is scum who's deliberately acting weird"

I mean you wrote it.


Still play dota... have other points.

okay, let's call it a misunderstanding then.

[T-Bone]

Not saying you did anything scummy. I am having a conversation with you. (you know, the thing I do to try and sort people's alignment)

[Firebringer]

Tbone ur interaction with nsg kind of feels scummy

Don’t know why.

[northsidegal]

Especially if you want to question something you find scummy...while simultaneously doing something scummy AND pointless.

Is this sentence not saying that i'm doing something scummy? If not then i don't understand what it means.

[T-Bone]

I was trying to compare what I felt you were doing from your point of view. Yeah that reads awkward.

[Vaxkiller]

Why would you think that I think: he is scum deliberately acting weird?

I don't believe i ever insinuated this but i could see how it might be implicit in my question in 350. so i guess to just say the conclusion that i was going to say after you confirmed your answer, it's that i just feel like it's obvious that he's doing things deliberately. like, i've seen his scumgame before and it's

not

as overtly, in-your-face strange as he's been here.

also, he literally said that he's deliberately acting weird.

Mutant is being deliberately weird I'm pretty sure, not sure why

I feel like it.

Ok dota game over.

Mutante posts something weird, then gets called out on it. And says "He feels like it" You think that is his town reaction to that?

[northsidegal]

i don't think it's a scum reaction? doesn't seem to have any sense of self-preservation behind it.

[T-Bone]

Vax, have you considered that someone can make a post, and it not be motivated by, or otherwise indicate their alignment?

Have you considered that players can make more than 1 post like this? More than 2? Most of their ISO?

Honestly, mutant has done really only one thing that I would honestly look at and think "what is he trying to accomplish? Is he doing this because he's scum?" And it is far and away not the "i feel like it" comment.