Open 720: NOIR (GAME OVER)

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It positive effect of him not floating offering throwaway posts to every interaction between everybody.

Trouble is the content thats sprung up in its place is... well... not moving town forwards as a cohesive unit just yet, which makes me think... things.

How does this make you feel?

Your absence? or lack of town cohesion?

Lack of town cohesion

Yo Alonzo I'm really interested to see where you were at here

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Momo would you be cool w signing posts generally?

As a member of the Eldritch Abomination I'd be a high key hypocrite to insist on it so up to you

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Answer my q and I'll entertain yours

pedit: ty kts you rock

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At the time you made that post

Also I've read your posts since but if you have any thoughts that you haven't spoken about I'd be keen on those too

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Nooo I want you to talk more!!

I can't remember my interactions with random offhand lemme check

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Ok the fact you made a comment like that and have nothing to back it up with is a little baffling but ok

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ducky townsynergy is a myth. mostly.

Less a myth more a DREAM......
Good players synergising as town = win.

Appreciate it's a roll of the dice but imo even a sceptic should try and synergise with their townreads

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Dragons are just bit ducks Iconeum.

Who are your strongest townreads BESIDES Quick & Sando and why?

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I asked who you're TRing BESIDES those two. give me something interesting.

Also fluffing =/= not sorting. Check my ISO, my lynchpool is narrowing which is exciting!

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Talk me about it?
Also who uou think is maybe town?

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uh who's being looked at for Rising Star

I think there is a TvS in the worst/oxy.

why and which of MOMO's reads do you dislike?

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wow cool, good luck Ico!

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rising starrrrr

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That's why it's difficult for me to believe that town!mutantdevle would fail to make that connection when analyzing the wagon

These reads are usually garbage ftr.

Took the words out of my mouth.
Logic is backwards af

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Is Piss by virtue of a Korina read?
or did you find his opening towny?

Also for the record I'm uncomfortable TRing Pint but Oxy/Mutant are honestly probtown

pedit: good post...he refuses to do anything townie ://

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As a general rule I agree about tinfoil theories. The problem is he's really not basing his content around much fact currently. Feels more like trying to get towncred by being profound, more than committing to his theories..

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Agreed about Ico. His return shall be interesting.

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Let me re-lens his iso from ypov

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5. Define his town attitude? The way he helps town? The worst practically said earlier that being helpful is NAI for him.

Helping PEOPLE with theory questions etc. is NAI as shit

Helping the town is AI. I won't play against wincon.

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Oxy ninja'd me why the fuck is that slot obvtown?? I agree with leaving it to do its thing today but...huuuh

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I have an answer!! But I shall quiet

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Knowing who to sheep is a very useful skill in itself

Think I'm maybe paraphrasing Quick from sitecat here.

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Nah. I think it's town and I trust it to sort its shit out.
If it's scum we lynch it with fire!

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What a passionate post.

What was your case? I missed or forgot it o.0

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Fucking hell

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If you are actually town hardscumreading me for LESS THAN SEMANTICS you are the worst mafia player on the planet. Seriously. Revisit your reasoning so we can have a conversation or move on to actual scum.

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It's because I think you're town and if you're going to deathtunnel me you'll throw the game. You are confirmation biased as fuck and anyone with an ounce of intelligence should look at themselves and realise they're creating reasons to support their read and not making a legitimate read based on actual players' actions or intent.

If you think I'm scum explain why. Head out of tunnel. No one-dimensional scumhunting.

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If you are actually town hardscumreading me for LESS THAN SEMANTICS you are the worst mafia player on the planet. Seriously. Revisit your reasoning so we can have a conversation or move on to actual scum.

I've seen this kind of reactions far more times coming from scum than from town. What is it that everyone has to fucking shit on a player to make him feel bad for what he thinks just to win a fucking game? Can you not town it up by any other means, are you not good enough?

I am begging him to play the game. Show me where this comes from scum more than town.

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If you are actually town hardscumreading me for LESS THAN SEMANTICS you are the worst mafia player on the planet. Seriously. Revisit your reasoning so we can have a conversation or move on to actual scum.

I've seen this kind of reactions far more times coming from scum than from town. What is it that everyone has to fucking shit on a player to make him feel bad for what he thinks just to win a fucking game? Can you not town it up by any other means, are you not good enough?

I am begging him to play the game. Show me where this comes from scum more than town.

There are other ways to "beg him to play the game". Saying "you are the worst mafia player on the planet" with a shitty tone is not the best one. There's a list of players that I've seen do this to make a toxic enviroment just to win their scum games. I'm not implying you're one of those, of course not, just... Don't do that, please.

Suggesting he really desperately needs to evaluate his reasoning is not toxic. There was a heavy if and if you consider me generally toxic I would really like you to say so, I'd appreciate the feedback.

That being said VOTE: pinturicchio flips red

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I am, just strongly dislike unreasonable people.

If you're going off gut say it. If you have a case lay it down. Don't serve up that kind of crap.

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Yeah fair, let's all be besties <3

UNVOTE: intent to sheep hydra

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devle <3
catch up and tell me what you think of pinguricchio

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farts.

I think he's town.

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the initial lurk-lurk-lurk-defence manoeuvre pinged me too but his response was outstanding.

rate the hydra for me?

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could you link me to what you perceived to be AtE in your last game with scum!pingu btw?

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yeah i personally apologize for not explaining so much. i'm sorta apathetic about this game because there's no one i really know personally that can get me interested in a game in here, and the thread is sorta nooby. no offense lol, but there's a lot of surface level reads to when i do provide an explanation it's met with level 1 play that i find hard to respond against. it's kind of like when a kid questions you about simple matters like why we brush our teeth and continues questioning it to the point where you give up and say "because i said so." lol, that's my meta, and i'm too used to people following me "because i said so" and hitting scum.

I'll be ur friend

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Im really nuetral on Ico, I hate to feel like that about slots.

Merely playing devils advocate.

All due respect
Feeling entirely null about a player is a bad feeling

Town tend to post without holding back etc. etc. so you're more likely to TR or SR them.

KTS bleeds town, Eddie's boredom is highly townie. You unintentionally forced the hydra into a position where it was forced to faux AtE (I know scummy-af-AtE is a different thing just addrssing what has been suggested here)

Who's voting Ico now?

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3x TRs I'm fucking innnn

VOTE: Spyconeum

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yeah i personally apologize for not explaining so much. i'm sorta apathetic about this game because there's no one i really know personally that can get me interested in a game in here, and the thread is sorta nooby. no offense lol, but there's a lot of surface level reads to when i do provide an explanation it's met with level 1 play that i find hard to respond against. it's kind of like when a kid questions you about simple matters like why we brush our teeth and continues questioning it to the point where you give up and say "because i said so." lol, that's my meta, and i'm too used to people following me "because i said so" and hitting scum.

I'll be ur friend

: ))))))

you need anything explained, new friend?

What's your favourite colour?
Why are you so great?

nah I feel I have a decent gauge on things at the moment. I'll put some work into explaining ico at lunchtime.

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L-1 or L-2
*bad at maths*

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Pribably

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Na sorry I think you were ok

Hydra + Sando + CJ + me + you
7 to lynch

Do not L-1 becauae Not_Mafia rofl

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I like 0% need my lunchbreak to describe why I'm on Ico

Questions w/o follow through or apparent answer, looking busy, voting doesn't feel organic bla bla

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Rareish for 13p ime

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Run me through why you think Sando or Alonzo are scum?

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I'm feeling a bit disoriented but I hope the hydra is ok

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@math

your vote count is upside down!

(shitposting over)

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TSTBS

Whats this?

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It does feel easy but like one of two things has to happen to progress the gamestate in a positive way for town
1. scum!ico dies
2. town!ico towns

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It's NM iirc I spoke about it at least once.......
If we're lucky we hsve a vig who is smart who can shoot him in the face. Tend to side with MOMO here, lolhammering with confirmable roles is bad.

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I was asleep buddy. Considering time to deadline I thinkkkkk I would have ish.

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intent to l1

This tho

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Hydra triggered

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Yeah nah I stand by my wobbly stance.

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Why not wait for a claim tho random?

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ya I kinda feel that

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5. When dead, you may have one game-irrelevant substanceless "Bah!" post. Do not reveal any information or otherwise post once you're dead.

lol >:

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so close

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At the very least, I fully plan to remove the Mafia Jailkeeper's ability to kill and jail at the same time. The mafia never actually utilised this ability, so it had 0 impact on balance this game, but in general it nerfs the Tracker.

^ this basically, will make it really good.
this setup mod is really clever.

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Quick, you need to learn not to instinctively disagree with people

WRONG

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Quick, you need to learn not to instinctively disagree with people

WRONG

sorry please disregard

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I only just put pisskop outside of my investigate pool... >; gdi
not that it would've mattered

pedit: NM is the fucking mayor of PL country

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who busses not_mafia?
dude carries

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"i'm down to kill the wrost"

ouch

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tfw compromise NK

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nice lurkin' scummies

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well said bro
nothing worse than waking up to bookmarks being bumped and being like "hmm nope"

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oh god no I finally got Mr Blue Sky out of my head and now it's been brought up again..............
the flavour was great, I'd replay this with full flavour!

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I'm fucking dead

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tbh had town won this i'd have said something like "scum made great nightkills until they killed Sando (in the lynchpool) and left MOMOMEN alive" but then they got mislynched anyway so

I was fully expecting for you to open the thread while I was asleep, find Mom dead and myself already QL'd.

why did you sleep in for so long?

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OKAY THANK YOU NO FURTHER DETAIL REQUIRED

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I wake up from 4.30-6 most mornings! ^_^

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I thought your contribution alone was obvtown enough KTS
suspect the issue was the steaming pile of shit heaped onto the thread in the middle of the game (after you stopped posting)

pedit: sup katy

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"i'm down to kill the wrost"

ouch

You gotta love how much discussion went into your kill considering how heavily town discussed it the next day

Right...?

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I feel like playing via sheer psychology is dangerous in its own ways. Some slots give out negative energy or bad vibes for completely different reasons than their actual alignment.

Tbh I dunno why I'm talking, my scumhunting method is quacking loudly until things die

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Lol @ the early celebration in the dead chat.

Fam I was this close to crackin open the champagne

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974 was hilarious btw

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Dont have to read Not_Mafia when you can read MOMOMEN tho

QFT

The wagon shift this game will haunt my nightmares for a long time.

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I like the fact it's townsided on the surface but considering the inconclusiveness of results, TPRs are in equal parts valuable and WIFOM

Tracker following hider this game was lucky as hell and we still lost
Detective/psych can guilty vigilante
Without tracker backup or flipped JK hider doesn't know if their results can be trusted


We had a reasonably lucky town game and still lost. This isn't an explicitly town sided setup IMO

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Hmm that's fair ig

I'd argue hider trumps detective in terms of usefulness but fair

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You seemed like you were running out of puff by EOD1 too hahaha. Damn us hyperactive Aussie townies.

My N1 invest was basically like "if he's scum he's doing the NK 100% of the time and IDK who else to check"

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no, Sando
you had no puff at the start of d1

the pace was pretty impressive, I was so happy to be here when I was alive >;

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I'm not learning any lessons from that I'm just gonna throw down a sassy ascii emoji and strut out

╭∩╮(-_-)╭∩╮

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Permission to respond candidly Korina?

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I was clearly not vibing the townreads on you and if you lurked hard whilst I was alive I would have probably lockjaw scumread you. You replacing out was the best thing you could have done for your team since you couldn't keep up.

Also probably not gonna take playstyle feedback from you here doggy (@mutant, as an aside I actually really do appreciate your feedback unironically).

I had two endgame VTs pinned as obvtown in {Quick, MOMO}. After I died the level of activity in the game dropped dramatically which resulted in not only a town loss but one of my obvtown reads being the final lynch. Me/Sando et al had one scum and zero townies worn out. Mutant did a very very good job of hiding his frustration and playing along. And also I was the N1 scum kill, lol.

Definitely a fair critique of my PR game, and I'll take it from NM/Mutant or even Fitz. I categorically hate having to stay alive as town especially. But after your play this game jumping in with "you post too much" kinda rubbed me the wrong way.

/end rant

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LOL that is fantastic
my PR play decisively needs work