Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

[Quick]

p-edit: there are aspects to grey's play that i would associate with townhim that im not seeing here and im not particularly interested in unpacking them right now.

Sure... But you get I can't just trust you on a meta read right?

[Gorkington]

im not interested in pushing grey or discussing why i think hes scum right now.
youre more than capable of trying to parse him yourself for now, but theres literally very little productive value in laying my hand out when itll be easier to lynch him if he doesnt towntell for most of today.
p-edit: where did i say i want people to sheep me on grey? am i voting him?

[Quick]

im not interested in pushing grey or discussing why i think hes scum right now.
youre more than capable of trying to parse him yourself for now, but theres literally very little productive value in laying my hand out when itll be easier to lynch him if he doesnt towntell for most of today.
p-edit: where did i say i want people to sheep me on grey? am i voting him?

What I see is that you gave basically a naked read that you didn't bring up until that point in the game... Why say "I think they is Scumz" when what you said just here is that you have to wait to make that read anyways?

[Gorkington]

i dont have to wait to make the read.

it just makes it easier to push them if im not telling them why i think theyre scummy 24 hours into the game when they can just adjust if theyre scum if i tell them and if theyre town they have a chance to get into the game and start playing along my expectations.

pretty rocket science stuff.

[Quick]

i dont have to wait to make the read.

it just makes it easier to push them if im not telling them why i think theyre scummy 24 hours into the game when they can just adjust if theyre scum if i tell them and if theyre town they have a chance to get into the game and start playing along my expectations.

pretty rocket science stuff.

You didn't answer my question???

[Gorkington]

and for "why mention it at all", implying the read is some basis for pressure.
and its also fun to say what my reads are even if its potentially not entirely the most optimal thing in the world.

p-edit: its my thought process which should explain why im doing what im doing.
:V

[Gorkington]

and youre literally saying "you dont have any basis for the read" and i just explained why i did. literally read your own words and read my words and process them with your brain.
actually think.
about the words.
with your brain cells.
before posting.
words.
in response.
to them.

[Quick]

and for "why mention it at all", implying the read is some basis for pressure.
and its also fun to say what my reads are even if its potentially not entirely the most optimal thing in the world.

p-edit: its my thought process which should explain why im doing what im doing.
:V

Ah, so you made a naked read for pressure... I guess that makes sense. Glad I brought it up because this will add EXTRA pressure to them now.

[Gorkington]

i feel like im getting preemptively irritated at what feels like the beginning of you making a push on me thats going to make me frustrated.
lol.

i dont know why i actually asked you to push me when i knew it was going to make me feel really annoyed. what a silly goose i am.
:')

[Quick]

i feel like im getting preemptively irritated at what feels like the beginning of you making a push on me thats going to make me frustrated.
lol.

i dont know why i actually asked you to push me when i knew it was going to make me feel really annoyed. what a silly goose i am.
:')

Yer, thanks for answering tho.

[Quick]

and youre literally saying "you dont have any basis for the read" and i just explained why i did. literally read your own words and read my words and process them with your brain.
actually think.
about the words.
with your brain cells.
before posting.
words.
in response.
to them.

Jokes on you I have no brain cells. I am an enigma. Actually I'm closer to bacteria, but samezies.

[Quick]

and for "why mention it at all", implying the read is some basis for pressure.
and its also fun to say what my reads are even if its potentially not entirely the most optimal thing in the world.

p-edit: its my thought process which should explain why im doing what im doing.
:V

Ah, so you made a naked read for pressure... I guess that makes sense. Glad I brought it up because this will add EXTRA pressure to them now.

Oh, silly me, you DIDN'T imply the read was for pressure... Weird because I wasn't implying that either and I really have no idea why you would think that... I was implying it was pointless to say "I think they is Scumz" for no reason at all. I mean... unless the read changes? But why would it, we're already 24 hours into the game.

But now it appears you were doing it for the ENTERTAINMENT and not for anything in particular. IDK why that would be entertaining, but some people are into some weird shit so *shrug*

[Srceenplay]

Holy shit.
You guys talk so much you are making my voice hurt.
I think I’m 8 pages behind now.

[Spiffeh]

Ok I'm all caught up

Brian Skies is easily the scummiest player in the game and should be wagoned/lynched

You did the same thing in Gay Mafia and we were both town. Learn a new trick or I'm voteparking you.

Maybe you should do town things if you're town

Also interesting that you'd vote park me for behaving similarly to a game where I was town

[Toranaga]

VOTE: screenplay

probably wolfy as fuck even for screenplay

[Spiffeh]

I didn't see anything from my posting up until that point that was worthy of a townread from someone, and I've never played with her before so I doubt it was a meta read. I also think that if she really had a reason to think I was town, there would either have been some sort of explanation as to why she was townreading me or that she wouldn't have been so quick to 180 her read and vote me.

I agree with Toranaga awhile back who said that your immediate jump to "I'm being buddied" sounded like fake paranoia

I don't really understand why that was your thought process rather than Ausuka just sharing some of her early reads. It's not like her town read on you looked all that confident. The way you reacted seems like an easy way for scum to look like they're "suspicious" of someone and I don't see why you'd jump to that conclusion so early over something so trivial as town.

[Toranaga]

VOTE: SCREENPLAY

CheekyTeeky(2) ~ Nero Cain(2)

That typo in the username.

What a flawless defense.

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

awww I was hoping my vote would redirect to a player.

Why would you think this would happen?

early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

^^^^ spiffeh

I can totally see brian's point of view in context here. just what exactly could warrant a townread from him? 3 empty as fuck posts and you're townread for it? it's suspicious.

[Toranaga]

jsyk, I initially did think it felt like fake paranoia but reading in context I agree with Brian. ausuka is a wolfread of mine rn.

[Quick]

I didn't see anything from my posting up until that point that was worthy of a townread from someone, and I've never played with her before so I doubt it was a meta read. I also think that if she really had a reason to think I was town, there would either have been some sort of explanation as to why she was townreading me or that she wouldn't have been so quick to 180 her read and vote me.

I agree with Toranaga awhile back who said that your immediate jump to "I'm being buddied" sounded like fake paranoia

I don't really understand why that was your thought process rather than Ausuka just sharing some of her early reads. It's not like her town read on you looked all that confident. The way you reacted seems like an easy way for scum to look like they're "suspicious" of someone and I don't see why you'd jump to that conclusion so early over something so trivial as town.

What if I said bad Town do "bad" plays?

What do I mean? I mean newb Scum make poor plays like that all the time. Will have to go back and look at that interaction *Goes to check*

Okey here is the post:

early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

was I wrong, Brian?

I'm town, I just don't think I've done anything worthy of a townread.

then why are you making remarks instead of voting me?

Should I be voting you?

if you scumread me, which you claim to, it follows you should be voting me.

I personally agree that there was pretty much zero to conclude that brain deserves a TR at that point of the game... I am SRing Ausuka and I really don't think that is SvS... So... IDK, Not really feeling the Brain SRs atm...

[Quick]

I didn't see anything from my posting up until that point that was worthy of a townread from someone, and I've never played with her before so I doubt it was a meta read. I also think that if she really had a reason to think I was town, there would either have been some sort of explanation as to why she was townreading me or that she wouldn't have been so quick to 180 her read and vote me.

I agree with Toranaga awhile back who said that your immediate jump to "I'm being buddied" sounded like fake paranoia

I don't really understand why that was your thought process rather than Ausuka just sharing some of her early reads. It's not like her town read on you looked all that confident. The way you reacted seems like an easy way for scum to look like they're "suspicious" of someone and I don't see why you'd jump to that conclusion so early over something so trivial as town.

What if I said bad

Scum

do "bad" plays?

What do I mean? I mean newb Scum make poor plays like that all the time. Will have to go back and look at that interaction *Goes to check*

Okey here is the post:

early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

was I wrong, Brian?

I'm town, I just don't think I've done anything worthy of a townread.

then why are you making remarks instead of voting me?

Should I be voting you?

if you scumread me, which you claim to, it follows you should be voting me.

I personally agree that there was pretty much zero to conclude that brain deserves a TR at that point of the game... I am SRing Ausuka and I really don't think that is SvS... So... IDK, Not really feeling the Brain SRs atm...

Bad Scum

EBWOP

[Spiffeh]

Ok, I see what you mean, but why immediately assume you're being buddied from a player you've never seen before rather than prodding them and asking why they're town reading you?

Yeah that is a pretty garbage ISO to town read but that doesn't make Brian's reaction to it much better.

[Spiffeh]

^ to Toranaga

[Quick]

VOTE: SCREENPLAY

CheekyTeeky(2) ~ Nero Cain(2)

That typo in the username.

What a flawless defense.

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

awww I was hoping my vote would redirect to a player.

Why would you think this would happen?

early reads are that creature is town, brian probably is too.

I think I'm being buddied.

^^^^ spiffeh

I can totally see brian's point of view in context here. just what exactly could warrant a townread from him? 3 empty as fuck posts and you're townread for it? it's suspicious.

[Toranaga]

spiffeh: I agree, but right now I'm reading into it as poor phrasing/use of words rather than scummy jumping to conclusions. instead of thinking he is being *buddied*, which I agree is quite ridiculous, he was more precisely reading into it as "I did nothing to warrant a townread and IDK why I'm getting one", which he explained later. people use the term buddying way too broadly and it's not always what they mean. I don't think brian actually thinks scum is trying to buddy him.

quick: yeah we're definitely seeing eye to eye here mate

[Quick]

^ to Toranaga

Right...