Micro 798 - Splatoon Mafia - Game Over

[brassherald]

Morning.

VOTE: doomfeathers

[brassherald]

ok
VOTE: Human Sequencer

Why so quick to pile onto Human Sequencer when there were a handful of other wagons you could've sheeped?

-V

As far as I can tell, HS was the biggest wagon.

You were just looking to hop onto the biggest wagon? Why?

[brassherald]

I'm here, I had to deal with a family emergency last night.

Doom looks like town to me so UNVOTE:

I definitely need to get aVC before I cast a vote in other places but Mylo in 46 seems to be hedging his bets on Ausuka, just enough to look like a read but also wiggle room leading off with "I think I'm town leaning". Like what the hell does that mean? It means no real read.

[brassherald]

VOTE: Mylo

I decided to count on my own, and I'm sure this is neither hammer nor L-1. I was phone posting earlier and the Ausuka v. Vorpal Blade hydra is still "meh" to me.

[brassherald]

No, I explained in 47 I dislike his hedging of a townlean with "I think I have a townlean" it reads like he's leaving himself flexible enough to lynch anyone, including the person he is supposedly townleaning. Idgaf if he's voting me.

[brassherald]

Is anyone interested in wagoning Voyc? Several people have mentioned that she's scummy. (I still prefer Lycanfire, but I can't do much by myself.)

My first reaction was "Who?" then I reread the thread and she has one post so my reaction is therefore "Why?"

[brassherald]

Seriously, look at this. Lycanfire's been around; he was early this morning. Here's all he's posted:

VOTE: Vartsun

You're a kid now, you're a squid now

Join the

Mylo

vote and you won't think everyone is so weird?

Why?

Taly is a fan of mislynching and losing. You might think they're joking. They're serious about this.

Who is this? XD I'm pretty serious about getting worthwhile discussion going.

I feel like after correctly identifying Varsoon as a killing role day 1 of Darkest Dungeon
and basically having to run the scumteam up until he vigged me on night 3, you shouldn't have to ask who I am if Varsoon thought sorting me early was at all a consideration today.

What kinds if discussion do you want to have?

He's not helping anything; in fact, he seems confused by the suggestion that we need discussion. My gut says he's scum.

Hmmm.... I'm going to pull a Mathdino and look into meta for a bit. Will report back.

[brassherald]

Meta reads indicate, well, nothing. It seems he shitposts a bit as either alignment and then posts one big post where he starts to do actual work a few days later.

[brassherald]

Meta reads indicate, well, nothing. It seems he shitposts a bit as either alignment and then posts one big post where he starts to do actual work a few days later.

I guess the more accurate thing to say would be current posting patterns look NAI to me after reading his meta.

[brassherald]

Forgive me if I don't want to stop wagoning him just because his play looks scummy at other times as well.

No problem, you do you.

[brassherald]

I did a Voyc search of meta. There's not much, and I do not see a single Scum game from her, but the activity so far does not fit her town meta. I'll throw her into my very early lynch pool.

In fact, even though Mylo is still in there for reasons above. Doom still seems town, so I'll join him on this one.

VOTE: Voyc

From what I can tell, by the way, town Voyc is very talkative and helpful. Again, I do not know what scum Voyc does from her meta.

[brassherald]

How many votes is that?

[brassherald]

How many votes is that?

Actually, strike that.

@Mod Can we have a vote count, oh merciful overlord?

[brassherald]

UNVOTE:

I like the latest post from Voyc. I can't catch up though because my idiot brother in law just fell with my niece on his shoulders so, family has to come first.

[brassherald]

Hi yeah I'm here!
I didn't have time to really post until now, but I've been reading along

I'm liking doom so far
And I agree w/ skitter that brass' willingness to read other people's games and try to meta them seems townie

that's actually a good point, this isn't anything like her towngame. that makes this wagon a lot better.
VOTE: Voyc

Are you going off from what brass said or did you look into them yourself?
The wording seems to indicate the latter but for some reason I'm not buying it

@skitter, is there anyone you feel is scummy? Also, what are your thoughts on Vartsun?

I want to reread through Vartsun vs Ausuka, I'll probably get to that not too later today
I don't have a read on Vartsun but Ausuka feels off, it's pretty weak gut though so I'll see

I was asked why I liked this past earlier, I liked that thought went into this post, but it's been a while and a reread of two slots in a 6 page game (it was fewer on Friday) should have been done now, so, good feelings gone. I feel like a promise for content that people don't follow the through with is scummy.

The current push on Mylo is good as my suspicions have never abated from my vote of him earlier but in order to lay down a vote right now, I'd need a vote count. Consider my vote on him I'll go back and make sure what the votes are now

[brassherald]

VOTE: mylo

This is the third vote, it takes 5 to lynch so that means L-2

[brassherald]

I'm response to the portion of 139 directed towards me, I agree it's not a strong case right now, but I'm only really confident on my read of doom (town). Admittedly, over the weekends I only skim the thread, so I'm going to reread and recalibrate latter today.

Might end up with new reads when I do that.

[brassherald]

Mylo is literally doing nothing, and might be replaced, so UNVOTE: because I would like to form reads more based upon full actions than one bad post and lots of nothing.

After a reread, I am of two minds on the 1v1 of Ausuka and Vartsun.

Ausuka seems kind of directionless. Her votes lack any real conviction from what I can tell. Also, although I am loathe to admit I was looking for it because I have a well documented hatred for read lists, I'm really surprised she has not done her standard read list. As much as I think this is better, it's strange to not see her post one by this point in the game.

At the same time, the person pushing her most, Vartsun, is not coming out looking good either, though. I usually just say "tunnelling" and "Town-trait" and walk away, but there has been shade being thrown all around from this slot as well. Including in 79 when there was shade thrown to literally every player because no one was liking all these walls. Let's get this out of the way, many people don't like reading walls, if you are going to post information in walls, do not be surprised when no one cares.

My two minds issue is that I can see either as scum, but not both. I'm more comfortable voting towards the shade flinging than the lack of conviction for the time being, though.
VOTE: Vartsun

Finally, Voyc is just lazy posting. I don't like that, but I would prefer a resolution to the 1v1 over a vote for someone who usually effort-posts and is not.

The rest of you, well, you are not in my lynch pool right now, consider yourself town by POE for the moment, since I have a tendency to scum read too many people and I just don't feel like posting why each of you other than Doom could be scum in my eyes. If I had to pick a second town block, it would be HS followed by skitter.

[brassherald]

Oh, I forgot to say 137 while being a wall post and having portions I disagree with is okay enough in itself to keep lycan out of my four person lynch pool for the time being.

I'd disagree with doom's 148 which seems to imply that Lycan is still a bit lower than Voyc in terms of towny level (You know, our 1 to Innocent Child scale that I'm totally not making up as a joke because I am using a dumb term.) Right now, if there were more posts like 137 and the lazy posting of Voyc continues, I'd be advocating for a Voyc lynch over a lycan lynch. In short,

@doom

, we may need to talk to each other a bit about the two of those slots later on.

[brassherald]

I'd disagree with doom's 148 which seems to imply that Lycan is still a bit lower than Voyc in terms of towny level (You know, our 1 to Innocent Child scale that I'm totally not making up as a joke because I am using a dumb term.) Right now, if there were more posts like 137 and the lazy posting of Voyc continues, I'd be advocating for a Voyc lynch over a lycan lynch. In short,

@doom

, we may need to talk to each other a bit about the two of those slots later on.

Nah, "same" means "same". I was just saying that both are rather shady but not top lynch targets at the moment. Actually, I'd probably agree with you that Voyc is scummier than Lycanfire.

Okay, discussion held. I deem this a successful discussion.

[brassherald]

I actually really like lycanfire's posting. I think the scumteam might be HS and the mylo slot.

Could you expand on both of those? Or if you have, provide a link to the post with reasoning?

[brassherald]

So, an OMGUS vote is going to change my mind, Varsoon?

I mean, your slot has been consistently minimizing reasoning for everyone's votes if they were not for Ausuka. I posted that one in particular because it was a particularly bad post calling everyone else anti-town.

[brassherald]

Vartsun things:
27 reads like shading Ausuka's vote on the hydra, I guess maybe this may not count since it was a vote on them, but still. Pretty muich everything before that was shading the votes on HS and an RVS push, but, like, it's RVS in a micro, that's a pretty shitty point to argue about.
37 shades Mylo himself for a vote on me.
50 tries to frame my post which had reasoning right before it as an OMGUS vote.
94 the end shades a vote by Ausuka, who they now read as town, by the way, for voting Voyc.
105 says "When did confidence become a scumread thing?" Reads like throwing shade to me.
115 was written down by me, but I think that I misunderstood that post originally. Just sharing a bit that's not totally relevant.
139 is actually less of a shade throw than I thought, but repeating myself pings me, so that's a memory thing more than an actual read reason.

Doom: Doom is town to me because the way he reads is both similar to the town tone I have seen in the past, and his reads are well thought out and don't seem faked. It reads like he's trying to solve a puzzle. He's towny AF.

[brassherald]

I'm not responding because this game is not fun. I'll be back tonight because I really hope that Gamma's warning helps, but I really find that this game has been miserable, and I do not play games that aren't fun.

[brassherald]

You know what, no. Screw this. We're 8 pages in, sorry to Gamma to do this, but even if the atmosphere is better later on the beginning of this game was horrible full of too many personal attacks, and I'm not going to get over that. I can't play to my wincon if I won't be able to get over the toxic atmosphere of the first 7 pages. It takes a bigger man than I to get over this.

doomfeathers is still cool.

UNVOTE:

@mod, replace me too. Sorry