Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

[Hopkirk]

Not impressed with Thor at all.

[Quick]

I feel at least a bit good about: Toranaga, MariaR, Beeboy, Ausuka, Cheeky, Quick, Brian, Nero, Brigand (a bit), Screen (a bit)

Zone of people I need to interact with: The Worst, Tchill, Panoptican UNVOTE: panoptican, Bins, Spiffeh

Hive of potential scum and villany: Thor665, Gorkington, GreyIce, Centipede

I feel like Grey is TSTBS. He's doing some really REALLY funky stuff and that usually comes from Town.

[Quick]

Not impressed with Thor at all.

Kinda agree. Felt like he was trying to get on my good side. Also IDK how I feel about him stepping up to the plate for me against Screen.

[CheekyTeeky]

Out of the ISOs I've read, Centipede's is the worst
also I don't have a reason to vote Brian

Which ISOs have you read and why did you choose those over others?

[Nero Cain]

Agree with Quick about Grey

Agree with Hop on Thor.

[Hopkirk]

more than 75% of the time?
It's a shitty reaction test that he's using instead of content to avoid solid reads.
None of the people in column 3 are solid scum right now, I'm still sorting.

[Gorkington]

ill be back in 48 hours to shitpost my way back into giving a shit about this game again.
cya then.

[Thor665]

Why Hop scum? I assume it's serious now.

It's been serious for some time now.
You look like an opportunistic reactive to me.
That reads scum.

Panop's read list did not fill me with town vibes for the slot, it was so different from my reads either I have to be a dunderhead, or Panop has motivations.
I don't accept that I'm a dunderhead because my mommy tells me I'm special.
So...

{Creature, quick, hopkirk, nero, beeboy}

Why do you townread Hopkirk?

I'm joyfully ignoring panop and other people who do nothing but complain that quick exists and how he plays

I'd be willing to wager fair money that at least one scumboi is using that as an excuse to do Smurf-all right now.
Which, of course, is actually an argument that Quick *should* adjust his style
But, yeah, I don't get it, the whole game is spammy, Quick is the biggest poster but not by that much, I've been in far worse situations by far, this seems rather normal - especially in a game advertised for wanting activity.
So, yeah, some of the complaints are going to be forced and faked.

[Quick]

Is it weird I sorta want to get a Town banner for this game?

I am feeling exceptional about Town's chances of winning this one unless something really really bad happens. And it could. I might have made a big mistake giving my tin foil TRs.

[Nero Cain]

this convo leads nowhere

I wasn't doing a balancing act, that's all I argued. you think creature farting itt is enough for a townread. f i n e. my lynch target is tchill anyway.

I wasn't trying to cast shade man. Trying to convince you who is Town is all.

Regardless of Tor's alignment...he knows. I'm just willfully antagonizing him on his bad reads. Not all that interested in the tchill or Screenplay scum reads he's pushing either.

[Brian Skies]

I feel if you were unsatisfied with my answers then you'll be unsatisfied with the same thing but with more words.

I have no idea why my early townlean on Brigand matters whatsoever? I said at the time it was very light and there's actually relevant stuff to talk about.

I think the entire reason was because I liked 53.

Scumreading you initially was because... nope it was less than ten pages in. Why do you think it had solid logic.

I gave the entire reason a while back in 190. You didn't follow up on something. That made you a decent person to push. 222, that ended with a read formed and I moved on.

Not sure what you're looking for, my motivation is literally just what's obvious from using ctrl f in my iso for your name and stopping at 222. Nothing else to it there.

To the first point about 'backing off', it's shooting as much stuff out as possible and trying to form as many reads as possible on as many people as possible as quickly as possible. That's how I'm trying to approach games atm. That's why I listed I think 6 townreads pretty quickly. 100% playstyle.

Spoiler:

awww I was hoping my vote would redirect to a player.

Why would you think this would happen?

scumpost

VOTE: brian

These are good.

Why is this good?

Yes.

Not following up here is why I voted brian btw. Gave minor impression he was asking qs without followng up.

VOTE: Quick

Spoiler:

awww I was hoping my vote would redirect to a player.

Why would you think this would happen?

scumpost

VOTE: brian

These are good.

Why is this good?

Yes.

Not following up here is why I voted brian btw. Gave minor impression he was asking qs without followng up.

You were clearly trolling me. How should I have followed up when there was nothing in your response to me to make me want to bother to continue talking to you?

This is the town response I was imagining.
My response was selfish, but useful I think.

Look, dude.

I'm not asking you why you were townreading Brigand. I asked you why you liked his 53 (and possibly your opinion on 40, to which I also asked you here). Your response to this is you liked 53, which doesn't even answer the original question. ??? It's like you just made up a new question and answered that instead. It's only going in a circle because you, for whatever reason, don't even acknowledge what I'm asking you.

Secondly, you're saying that you already answered my question in 190 and ended it in 222. These are your posts, to which you explained why you responded 'Yes' to me instead of answering my question and what you got out of it. Which, once again, doesn't actually address what I originally asked you.

[Hopkirk]

Admittedly self centric, but It's painfully obvious there's a potential wagon hanging over me right now and I get the feeling Thor's waiting for it.

He called his initial vote of me a sheep.
His early townreads (Torn/Quick/BB) don't add anything since they're common.
His defence of Quick was after the quick wagon played its course.
His scum leans on me/Screen don't add anything.

661
-he's now got me as more scummy without explaining. Ignored a request to explain.
-only gives reads on people Torn asked about and adds utterly nothing to any of the reads.
-Slight reasoning given on Screen but doesn't actually move forward to vote screen. Could have potentially moved things forward but hung on me (non wagon that could bloom) instead for unclear reasons.

737- Doesn't add anything to Spiffeh's Pan read. Urges a move to me again without giving any reason (hence no reason to expect anyone to move, hence no forward momentum from Thor).

1080- An iffy reasoning to not vote Brian that doesn't really say anything about

Brian

1082- No original thoughts.


I'll admit I don't know his town meta, but it feels like he's added nothing and he's waiting for something. I don't really say any original thought/effort/proactiveness there.
I think I remember hearing Thor's name in a list of really good players back in like 2014 when I was new and while I don't know how he plays town, this isn't what I'd expect.

[Quick]

I feel if you were unsatisfied with my answers then you'll be unsatisfied with the same thing but with more words.

I have no idea why my early townlean on Brigand matters whatsoever? I said at the time it was very light and there's actually relevant stuff to talk about.

I think the entire reason was because I liked 53.

Scumreading you initially was because... nope it was less than ten pages in. Why do you think it had solid logic.

I gave the entire reason a while back in 190. You didn't follow up on something. That made you a decent person to push. 222, that ended with a read formed and I moved on.

Not sure what you're looking for, my motivation is literally just what's obvious from using ctrl f in my iso for your name and stopping at 222. Nothing else to it there.

To the first point about 'backing off', it's shooting as much stuff out as possible and trying to form as many reads as possible on as many people as possible as quickly as possible. That's how I'm trying to approach games atm. That's why I listed I think 6 townreads pretty quickly. 100% playstyle.

Spoiler:

awww I was hoping my vote would redirect to a player.

Why would you think this would happen?

scumpost

VOTE: brian

These are good.

Why is this good?

Yes.

Not following up here is why I voted brian btw. Gave minor impression he was asking qs without followng up.

VOTE: Quick

Spoiler:

awww I was hoping my vote would redirect to a player.

Why would you think this would happen?

scumpost

VOTE: brian

These are good.

Why is this good?

Yes.

Not following up here is why I voted brian btw. Gave minor impression he was asking qs without followng up.

You were clearly trolling me. How should I have followed up when there was nothing in your response to me to make me want to bother to continue talking to you?

This is the town response I was imagining.
My response was selfish, but useful I think.

Look, dude.

I'm not asking you why you were townreading Brigand. I asked you why you liked his 53 (and possibly your opinion on 40, to which I also asked you here). Your response to this is you liked 53, which doesn't even answer the original question. ??? It's like you just made up a new question and answered that instead. It's only going in a circle because you, for whatever reason, don't even acknowledge what I'm asking you.

Secondly, you're saying that you already answered my question in 190 and ended it in 222. These are your posts, to which you explained why you responded 'Yes' to me instead of answering my question and what you got out of it. Which, once again, doesn't actually address what I originally asked you.

This is TvT Ya'll needa chill.

[Hopkirk]

‘opportunistic reactive’
I’ve been seeking interactions with most of the game and don’t really care how I come off looking as long as I get a read (Quick, Brian, Nero among others- criticised for the same thing but kept doing the same thing anyway because it gets me reads). Calling me reactive feels like projection given the consistent lack of original thought I’ve seen you bring to the game thusfar.

@Brian: I kind of agreed with 53 at the time so I liked it. 222 is me explaining why I said yes initially. Problems solved? If not, more words won’t work so try asking about something else you dislike in my play and sort me through that? Before you ask, I'm not asking you questions because I have a read on you and there's people I haven't sorted.

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: Thor

Sleeping then working. Back in like 16 hours.

[Brian Skies]

I kind of agreed with 53 at the time so I liked it.

Why was this so hard for you?

[Brian Skies]

I'm not really feeling a Thor wagon. How do you feel about srceen?

[Panopticon]

Varsoon here.
This game is 46 pages.
Case for reading all of those pages instead of just picking up from here?

Also, slow the fuck down with your posting, holy shit, 46 pages in like 24 hours please stop.

-The ObserVed

[Quick]

Varsoon here.
This game is 46 pages.
Case for reading all of those pages instead of just picking up from here?

Also, slow the fuck down with your posting, holy shit, 46 pages in like 24 hours please stop.

-The ObserVed

I will be sleeping in under 2 hours. I don't expect to be back until about 14 hours after that at least.

[Quick]

And why did I think vasoon was in Cent hydra?

[GreyICE]

Vote:Quick

[Panopticon]

I'mma be real, I'm not even sure who's in this game.
Quick, who are you?

-ObserVed

[CheekyTeeky]

maria can be scum.

Thinking this.

Gork what are your thoughts on Spiffeh?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Grey

Hi

[CheekyTeeky]

So for Town I have:

Tora
Spiffeh
Creature
Brain
MariaR
And add these for tinfoil theory:
Aususka
Beeboy
Nero
Hop
Cheeky

Quick why has Beeboy dropped?