Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

[Tchill13]

Post
Post
Post.

In all seriousness I was busy today and had trouble finding the thread. My wagon doesn't magically go away the more I posts.

[GreyICE]

You know, tchill, your 3 pretty shoddy posts, followed by a temper tantrum over being wagoned because "townies are getting away with the same thing" without any sign of scumhunting?

Yeah, it's pretty fucking bad play. It's also pretty fucking scummy play.

[Tchill13]

I don't get the tantrum thing about other townies. To be fair I don't even know who all is entirely in this game.

Go ahead and set up your case for why you were wrong when I flip town.

Scummy doesn't equal scum.

[GreyICE]

You'll excuse me if your award winning argument of "I'm scummy and have no idea who is in the game, but I'll still flip town, you meanie!" doesn't win any points.

Do you plan to start playing at some point? Or just try and threaten us with a "townflip" and scumplain about how people aren't nice?

[Nero Cain]

I guess I could be wrong and this is SCFTWR but I still feel like the reasons for said wagon were kinda lame but I agree that his reactions aren't great though.

[Tchill13]

Eh.

I'll just reset.

[Panopticon]

I guess I could be wrong and this is SCFTWR but I still feel like the reasons for said wagon were kinda lame but I agree that his reactions aren't great though.

If by aren't great you mean shit I agree.

~The Observer

[Panopticon]

Mod Confirmed Town - Ironclad Townread - Strong Townread - Townread - Townlean - Neutral - Not Indicative - Scumlean - Scumread - Strong Scumread - Ironclad Scumread - Mod Confirmed Scum
Neutral means I feel neutral about them. Not Indicative means I haven't seen enough from them either way. First reads posted 904

Mod Confirmed Town

A. Town Gunner

Ironclad Townreads

12. Panopticon (Varsoon and Tn5421)

Strong Townreads

3. Beeboy

Townreads

10. Gorkington
7. CheekyTeeky
5. Bins

Townleans

18. Creature (idk everyone thinks he's obvtown but i dont get it, i guess he can be kind of town still for now)
2. MariaR [Non-Indicative -> Townlean]
4. Thor665 [Neutral -> Townlean] (Would be higher but I don't like 1151 or 1236 much)
21. Nero Cain [Neutral -> Townlean] (I disagree with your assessment but still think you're more town for it)

Neutrals

15. Spiffeh (Liked a few of your posts but I'd like to see you consider voting someone besides Brian, at least for day 1. Even if he is cheerleading atm.)
6. Ausuka [Scumlean -> Neutral]
11. GreyICE [Scumread -> Neutral] (I'll admit this one stings my pride)
14. Srceenplay [Townlean -> Neutral]
20. Brian Skies [Townlean -> Neutral] (You're cheerleading, not scumhunting)

Non Indicatives

13. The Worst (still ded af)

Scumlean

19. Centipede Syndrome (Ellibereth+Chara)
8. Hopkirk [Neutral -> Scumlean] (Varsoon scumreads him, not very impressed with recent play either)
16. Brigand Vvulf [Neutral -> Scumlean] (Don't like that you have us as town with no interaction with us whatsoever)

Scumreads

9. Quick [Strong Scumread -> Scumread] (Sadly not the literal worst)
1. Toranaga [Scumlean -> Scumread]

Strong Scumreads

17. Tchill13 [Non-Indicative -> Strong Scumread] (Do something to help town if you ever want to get off this list)

Mod Confirmed Scum

B. Mafia Gunner (proven unvotable by page 2, @Quick, stop being fake)

~The Observer

[Panopticon]

Eh.

I'll just reset.

lol wut

[Nero Cain]

or maybe I'm right and the Sith that deals in absolutes (Grey) is sheeping a horrible wagon.

[Brian Skies]

What exactly am I cheerleading?

[Mulch]

Votecount 1.28

Tchill13(7)

~ Toranaga(157), Ausuka(58), Quick(195), Beeboy(64), CheekyTeeky(73), GreyICE(39), Panopticon(62)

Srceenplay(2)

~ Brigand Vvulf(21), Brian Skies(50)

Centipede Syndrome(2)

~ Tchill13(19), Bins(31)

Brian Skies(2)

~ Spiffeh(32), Creature(100)

Thor665(1)

~ Hopkirk(78)

Quick(1)

~ Srceenplay(28)

Hopkirk(1)

~ Thor665(21)

Brigand Vvulf(1)

~ Gorkington(56)

Bins(1)

~ MariaR(25)


Not Voting (5): Town Gunner(0), Mafia Gunner(0), The Worst(2), Centipede Syndrome(78), Nero Cain(59)

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-25 12:53:00)

[Nero Cain]

hopefully nothing, I don't think you'd make a very good looking cheerleader.

[Panopticon]

What exactly am I cheerleading?

Your iso would seem to indicate that you'd like to vote Hopkirk but you're actually voting....srceenplay? right now?

But you haven't interacted with him at all for a while unless I'm fuckin blind.

~The Observer

[Ausuka]

tchill is still scummy.

[Panopticon]

tchill is still scummy.

Hence my vote.

[Brian Skies]

Slight Scumlean
Srceen - My gut says otherwise, but I feel like this post is unnecessarily nitpicky (and I feel like that's more of something scum might do). I'm also not getting good vibes from his hardtunnel on the Quick slot. So it's probably more appropriate to put him here even though

I'm also not a fan of his immediate reaction to Thor.

Not really sure what I could be engaging or interacting with him on, so...?

[Panopticon]

Slight Scumlean
Srceen - My gut says otherwise, but I feel like this post is unnecessarily nitpicky (and I feel like that's more of something scum might do). I'm also not getting good vibes from his hardtunnel on the Quick slot. So it's probably more appropriate to put him here even though

I'm also not a fan of his immediate reaction to Thor.

Not really sure what I could be engaging or interacting with him on, so...?

You're really not sure?

THEN WHY ARE YOU VOTING HIM

[Brian Skies]

Because I think he's scum.

[Panopticon]

Because I think he's scum.

sigh

Why do you think he's scum? Surely there is a reason or two, and that is

something you could ask him about

.

AKA: What you could be engaging or interacting with him about.

So why do you seem to think you have

nothing

to engage or interact with him about?

[Ausuka]

{Creature, quick, hopkirk, nero, beeboy}

Why do you townread Hopkirk?

good tone + acting like he did in a town game. I believe I've already said this.

[Ausuka]

Admittedly self centric, but It's painfully obvious there's a potential wagon hanging over me right now and I get the feeling Thor's waiting for it.

He called his initial vote of me a sheep.
His early townreads (Torn/Quick/BB) don't add anything since they're common.
His defence of Quick was after the quick wagon played its course.
His scum leans on me/Screen don't add anything.

661
-he's now got me as more scummy without explaining. Ignored a request to explain.
-only gives reads on people Torn asked about and adds utterly nothing to any of the reads.
-Slight reasoning given on Screen but doesn't actually move forward to vote screen. Could have potentially moved things forward but hung on me (non wagon that could bloom) instead for unclear reasons.

737- Doesn't add anything to Spiffeh's Pan read. Urges a move to me again without giving any reason (hence no reason to expect anyone to move, hence no forward momentum from Thor).

1080- An iffy reasoning to not vote Brian that doesn't really say anything about

Brian

1082- No original thoughts.


I'll admit I don't know his town meta, but it feels like he's added nothing and he's waiting for something. I don't really say any original thought/effort/proactiveness there.
I think I remember hearing Thor's name in a list of really good players back in like 2014 when I was new and while I don't know how he plays town, this isn't what I'd expect.

this post is super towny.

[GreyICE]

That justification seems very weak. What about the post is "super townie"?

[Brian Skies]

Because I think he's scum.

sigh

Why do you think he's scum? Surely there is a reason or two, and that is

something you could ask him about

.

AKA: What you could be engaging or interacting with him about.

So why do you seem to think you have

nothing

to engage or interact with him about?

All he's done is push Quick and called Thor's push on him 'bs'. So...?

I've also already given all my thoughts on him and Thor is already engaging him (but won't vote him because...?).

So I'm not really understanding your issue here.

Unless you just really don't want me to vote him, in which case, why not?

Like, you're all for me voting Hopkirk (which I have), but don't understand why I'd want to vote someone else I'm suspicious of? Not really getting this. It's not even like you think Hopkirk is that much scummier than Srceen or anything.

[Centipede Syndrome]

Ausuka is still scum, Hopkirk is town. also Grey is town but hopefully you all knew that. Hopkirk's town because i say so and also because of the bad read on us. and also because Twin Trap.
if Elli gets us lynched i'm not counting it because hydra. haha.
~Chara