Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

[Quick]

hmmm maybe GreyICE isn't town

Say more about this. I will admit that Grey is a very hard read for me atm.

[Creature]

And oh, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine
And oh, I can fly, I can fly, I can fly
And oh, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine
And I'm having every second, minute, hour, bigger, better, stronger power

[Creature]

Guess I did well at organic chemistry test.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Panoptican

Serious vote. We're lynching here today.

VOTE: panoptican

[Quick]

VOTE: Pan

[Bins]

VOTE: tchill


hello it is bins the opposer

[Spiffeh]

If you're going to listen to Eli do it tomorrow I'm too important to die yet can't believe I have to stop lurking for thisThe gunner can shoot me all you like but 1 day is ,100% needed

Ok two things about this

1. I feel like town!Maria would be really pissed off at being wagoned for literally no stated reason other than "Elli said so" and I'm a little surprised that she's not even mad that she's being forced to basically out herself as a power role when from her PoV no one has anything on her.

2. The stated anti-claim mechanic from the rules makes it really optimal for scum to soft claim in the manner Maria is because no one can really force her to claim after hinting at being a power role. Town power roles should be holding that shit to their chest as long as they can but she pretty much immediately softs at the slightest bit of pressure earlier on.

So Maria is actually scummy
VOTE: MariaR

[Quick]

2. The stated anti-claim mechanic from the rules makes it really optimal for scum to soft claim in the manner Maria is because no one can really force her to claim after hinting at being a power role. Town power roles should be holding that shit to their chest as long as they can but she pretty much immediately softs at the slightest bit of pressure earlier on.

That's NAI.. For shame.

[Gorkington]

theres actually another really obvious reason that her crumb is probably bullshit.

[Spiffeh]

The reasons for most of my reads are weak because most of my reads are weak.

This is an odd thing to say when you previously held this opinion:

No. tchill is today's wagon, no deviation allowed, absent a literal scum claim.

You later say that you were being sarcastic but considering your opinion at the time from the context of your other posts I really doubt that's the case?

The fact that you jumped to sarcasm rather than "I changed my mind" makes it look like you're over-concerned with discrediting any possible point against you.

That goes for your whole response to Gork's case actually

[Quick]

I'm not voting Maria without an actual case on them, I don't think.

[Bins]

theres actually another really obvious reason that her crumb is probably bullshit.

is this you executing you 0.000001% intelligence


cause i dont see it

but i also dont like early softs either so meh

[Spiffeh]

theres nothing genuine about doubtcasting someone because theyre scumreading something your hydra partner did because you didnt post it.
theres nothing genuine about anything hes pushed on tchill.
and theres especially nothing genuine about him trying to walk back his read there as not being strong when hes indicated anything but the contrary.

We are on the same page

[GreyICE]

The Panopticon wagon is so obviously scumdriven it hurts me.

So I'm left between picking on Tchill or Maria. I don't even feel this is very hard.

Vote: Tchill

Not too opposed to MariaR, wouldn't vote Panopticon if you paid me after those fucking votes.

[Gorkington]

hello my name is maria and i have a strong power role that can apparently clear people. im going to tell people im using it. instead of just using it.

the entire fiasco of making a big deal of her getting a result is super unnecessary as town and paints a target on herself that i doubt she would actually want to have as town with a role like that when shes insinuated that she needs to make it until d2.

p-edit: ...?

[Bins]

i wanna also bet on thor's tchill vote so lets do this


worst and ausuka both responded in ways that were satisfying to me as them being just lazy town rather than avoidant scum but then cant be let of THAT EASY

[Gorkington]

why are you betting on thor???
hes really your strongest townread here?

[Bins]

no

i dont even townread him that much but i like his vote so i sheep it


also i hate literally every other wagon
the next best one is maria but i really dont think i want to vote that

[Creature]

Okay, maybe I should try.

[Creature]

I'm fine with any of Tchill and MariaR I guess.

[Bins]

VOTE: Panoptican

Serious vote. We're lynching here today.

VOTE: panoptican

tho i will say tchill isnt scum with hopkirk

i would also vote hopkirk

i think one of these votes on panoptican is scum

[Creature]

The Panopticon wagon is so obviously scumdriven it hurts me.

Ignoring the wagon, what do you think about Panopticon?

[Creature]

Wait, did MariaR claim?

[Creature]

hmmm maybe GreyICE isn't town

-_-

[Spiffeh]

The Panopticon wagon is so obviously scumdriven it hurts me.

Who are the scum driving the wagon?