Pedit - I'm getting paranoid that it is but love flipping town is whay gurantees cheeky/ank that is why love has to be lynched first.
I like how he thinks a Love scum flip will clear him and a town flip guilties me lol so really he's clear both ways. It's getting pretty clear that he's setting something up.
He's even said in one post that it's Me, Him and GL at LyLo...who even thinks from this perspective as Town?
There's 7 atm. Me/Korina/BlackVoid/Ico/Love/BuJaber/GL
for the scenario of me/GL/BuJaber to come to...
Love flips > BV is NK > Korina/Ico/GL/BuJaber/Me
How do we get to that point? After all the spew coming from BuJaber it makes it likely Love is town and Korina is scum. To make it past 5 people he's likely going to bus Korina and NK ico to get to that point.
In post 1113, BuJaber wrote:Only person that would make sense as my partner among those is Ank. So you lynch ank tomorrow first if love is town. At least that way you don't auto lose.
Then I guess GL has to decide between me and cheeky
I- I am actually adjusting to a world where Lovebird is friggin town. While I still scumread his actions this game, I compared them to the game where I got Love mislynched.
It's very similar. This could very well be Love town play here.
@Lovebird, there is a chance we will actually need to work together here. Who would you lynch today?
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
Wow you got him to unvote. Cheeky will actually win this game as scum?
Amazing.
How this game will end up with the lylo of me cheeky and GL:
Love gets lynched > Void NK > Ank gets lynched > Ico NK > GL Cheeky Bu remain.
Give me any version where that doesn't happen?
The version where you get these people to mislynch me now.
Ta-da.
In Lylo with Buj, Cheeky and GL, you have 2 scumreads Buj. You are/were scumreading both Cheeky and GL. From your PoV, those 3 alive isn't lylo, it's game over.
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
I need to adjust the lynch order if love is scum it should actually be cheeky then GL then Ank.
You see if love flips town Ank is 100% scum, with cheeky being the most obvious partner.
If love flips scum it doesn't fit that korina slot was bussing. It also doesn't explain why Ank went against the korina read of love. Korina came in wanting to lynch love hard. Ank comes in pretty much conftowning love. This is sloppy play if love is her partner. Therefore love =/= ank.
So that raises the question is there a chance both love and Ank are town? That would mean Ank is so sure of love town based on what exactly? And it would meam that GL and cheeky are literally the scumteam.
Well then why would cheeky be worried about lylo with me and GL? So no. That can't be the team. GL is pretty much conftown at this point.
Yeah cheeky has to be scum here. Either with love or Ank. I've considered every scenario and nothing else makes sense based on the reactions.
Either that or one of void/ico is lying which seems impossible at the moment but basically that is why we have to wait for love and GL to post if they are doc just in case.
Cheeky practically rose from the dead (activity wise) when Ank replaced in. She saw that Ank townread love and saw an opportunity.
In post 1092, BuJaber wrote:Cheeky - you realize you make sense as scum in both town!love flip and scum!love flip?
After all you also townread GL so he is never scum in this game according to literally EVERYONE except me. You have no option to scumread GL or you look bad and Void just claimed cop. I am the only townie left you can scumread without you getting scrutinized for it.
Interesting. This holds true. Cheeky has been all over the place with his votes. Between Cheeky and Buj, Cheeky has been far less committed to own reads.
And holy crap, Cheeky's ISO is terrible
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
I have spoilered the progression from Cheeky below.
He has been so all over the place, it's unreal. There wasn't a single lynch he did not want except for lovebird on D1.
Please take a little time to read this and tell me what you think, guys. Cheeky/Lovebird scumteam here
In post 446, Iconeum wrote:Everyone should read GL's 443, and then reread it again. It's just a great post.
Lovebird is so obviously scum it's ridiculous.
Read especially the part about the read evolution from town to an L-1 vote.
Before that, I also called out his vote in 203, his vote in 198. Naked L-1 vote on NM. This was after being prodded. He also failed to mention that was an L-1 vote.
VOTE: lovebird
If you agree with this and agree with GL's read on love, you should be voting lovebird.
This lynch is so much better then Rask's or NM's...
Why does this feel like you're just upset about Lovebird for scumreading you? He mentions other scum reads too, with Love like 3rd in priority.
Your read progression on Bu was also pretty rubbish.
In post 460, CheekyTeeky wrote:Damn that was pretty towny Rask. I don't know if that's outside of your scum range? The admitting to looking hedgy that is.
Feels like you're shopping around for a lynch. Your posts this page have been awful.
First you second guess your town read on Bu, then you randomly vote/unvote ico and now you're asking the biggest wagonee for her reads when she's given a fair bit of info and clearly suspects Ico.
The reason I jumped off love was so scum couldn't hammer if we were wrong and you refusing to put her to L-1 with any conviction spews love town if you are scum.
Your ISO is still really bad. In summary you pushed a PL lynch, have OMGUS voted twice and tried to convince us that scum must be in the low posters but now you cannot make up your mind. Some confident reads would go a long way for you on players with actual content i.e. on players other than NM. I still dislike your reaction to my initial push on you.
If Rask flips scum I'm pretty convinced Bu makes sense as buddy.
Well now that you asked, I just reread your ISO. I was scum reading your ISO until I saw what looked like you assessing people's votes onto the NM wagon. Then when I read again I realised the intent could actually come from either alignment. The shade you were casting on Love's NM was pretty shallow and opportunistic. Because the one thing that gave me doubt on my initial read of you is essentially void, I no longer town read you.
I do townread Love and Bu in contrast to scumreading you.
In post 585, CheekyTeeky wrote:Fine let's end it. You all better have this game sorted tomorrow. Like people actually need to read around the NM wagon and Love wagon.
VOTE: love HAMMERTIME MWAHAHA
In post 587, CheekyTeeky wrote:Biggest scum reads are Ico and Rask for anyone that's good at taking a closer look.
In post 741, CheekyTeeky wrote:Can we lynch Korina first out of love/Korina? Although I don't agree with a lot of BuJaber's logic, his intent feels a lot townier so I'm not lynching him today.
Bujaber != christopher
Lovebird != Greenliquid
Bujaber != iconeum
Bujaber != cheeky (??? 354?)
Iconeum != Love ???
Love != Cheeky ???
with bu w/ love seem pretty unlikely unless votepark into VLA is d1 hardbus, and i didnt examine bu w/ GL (1v1s harder to tell if because its traditional distancing) but i dont think GL is scum as individual
I think if bus scum hes scum its almost exclusively N_M or ZZZX given assoc which admittedly are the worst ones to have open and given independently think mostly likely 1 scum in there so. welp ultimately kinda useless
this is why I wanted to lynch in N_M though because thinkscum but even if wrong clearing assocations can get into gamesolve
Ok so going through Rask's ISO he kept flip flopping on Love/ZZZX/Ico and me.
He thought love was 60%ish town but he pushed for wagon on love a few times and it gained momentum. If I'm objective - even though I TR love I'll admit they've not done much but maybe pocket me today and I called love town yesterday so it makes sense that Rask was N1 kill over me if Love is scum.
ZZZX did nothing and still has done nothing. When Rask initially pushed him he voted Rask and parked there all day until he hammered NM and the perpetual active lurking is a dead give away that this guy is not invested in the game like a town player would be. He also had reason to want Rask dead.
Ico makes sense as a partner to ZZZX because he keeps town reading him when there's virtually nothing to defend him for.
@Ico can you please explain your town read of ZZZX and why you keep defending him? I think you're less suspicious than Love because I was hard pushing you yesterday and it feels like scum expect me to keep trying to lynch you.
Rask did also mention Chris/Korina but not as much as ZZZX and love so I'm going to follow the dead and say I'm into lynching ZZZX today over Korina.
VOTE: ZZZX
I say we wagon him until he catches up. No more excuses, give us content or replace out.
Can you just stop being dumb and realise it's a 1v1 with me and Bu today. I'm fine with it if you don't believe me but you can't vote Love because that mean Bu wins at LyLo tomorrow. He has hard pocketed you Ico, and if I'm right that the team is Bu/Ank then they will have enough votes with yours to win. So please do me a favour and vote for me so that he doesn't have me as the mislynch to win tomorrow.
If you all still think Love is scum tomorrow after my flip that's fine. I just don't want to be part of the loss so clear me today while we still have a mislynch to burn.
Pedit - yeah so lynch me. It's actually hilarious that I'm the one not making sense when I have literally just served you the game on a platter made from Bu's spew.
No you are ignoring the step by step process that makes my strategy work.
In the small small small chance that you are town lynching you first means town has to decide who is the scumteam between love/ank/GL/me . That is too much margin of error.
Lynching love first means we win regardless of what love flips.
