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Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:57 pm

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does scum parama take the progression that she did on mastina? honestly not sure, but i feel like it's more likely to come from town. it still comes down to how the final scum chose to interact with the mastina wagon. looking back i can see that implosion took the route of treating mastina as a strong townread. i thought that would be more revealing, but i'm not sure what sort of conclusions to draw from it.

if i were to make a sort of shot in the dark, i might conclude that implosion only ever voted town this game. he entered with math and mastina in his town pool, but he also did this strange thing where he pointed out exactly what was going on with his scumpartners:
In post 1124, implosion wrote:Math's vote on her is really strange the more that I think about it. It's in this place where he's calling it a policy vote and repeatedly espousing that she's the perfect policy lynch, but at the same time he seems to be half-assedly justifying why she is more likely scum than town. Which feels a bit intellectually disingenuous. But I still think a lot of his posting has been town. Like 88.

from the mini normal that i modded where he was scum, day one the entire scumteam was all getting scumread and were all viable lynch targets, and so he (and the rest of the scumteam) chose to throw scummy-looking votes towards each other, which ended up getting the others falsely confirmed for a while. we already know that he didn't do this with mastina and math, so i think it's reasonable to say that he didn't do it with his third partner? i think it's a question of mindset. in that other game, the mindset was "how do i make the best of this bad situation?" the answer was the throw bussing votes and even if one scum went down the others would thrive. in this game, we can be reasonably confident thanks to Ellibereth that the scumteam were playing around ellibereth from the start and would be trying to go for the long term. analyzed from that perspective i feel better about my conclusion.
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Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:01 pm

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In post 891, implosion wrote:
In post 872, Mulch wrote:I'm pretty much in my town meta. Camn is town.
Math
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ari
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mastina
are solidly in their town meta, although I'm having some reservations about Math because I know he's a capable scum player. But there have been a few subtle things here that are making me read him town.
MariaR
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kuuhaku
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Firebringer
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Implosion
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I agree with basically this entire list
sans maria
. My poe pool is actually really small right now that I count the people in it (reck, shos, dgb, lld, maria).

I'm certainly wrong somewhere but alas.
might point towards kuuhaku slot being scum

that or scum being someone not mentioned here at all
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Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:02 pm

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In post 893, Pine wrote:
In post 872, Mulch wrote:Ok, just going to put this here.

I'm pretty much in my town meta. Camn is town. Math, ari, and mastina are solidly in their town meta, although I'm having some reservations about Math because I know he's a capable scum player. But there have been a few subtle things here that are making me read him town. MariaR, kuuhaku, Firebringer, and Implosion are also solid meta town treads. Same with northsidegal, although not as confident. And I really like Centipede's last post, but not going to lock them town yet.

So I feel like we're looking at 3 scum probably in here:

- Ginngie
- shos
- DrippingGoofball
- xRECKONERx
- BBmolla
- Lady Lambdadelta
- Parama-
- Centipede Syndrome (Ellibereth + Chara)

Anyone disagree?
*raise hand*

Not a single scum on that list. Nope nope nope.

You kind of suck at this, Mulch.
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Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:07 pm

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Maybe BBmolla and Mastina is another Cogito Ergo Sum and Marquis situation.
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Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:11 pm

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in my soul i still feel it's bbmolla
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Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:15 pm

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{nsg}
{Mulch}
{Ginngie}
{MariaR, Lady Lambdadelta}
{Keychain, Aristophanes, DrippingGoofball, shos} <- too lazy to sort tier
{Madoka and Homura}
{BBmolla}
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Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:17 pm

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on further retrospection i feel like much of what i looked at would make sense with an absentee 4th scumbuddy for day one

implosion leaving the last scumbuddy out of his initial townreads
ellibereth only getting the three
mastina's attempt at accelerating her own lynch

with that in mind that'd probably raise madoka/homura and lower basically that entire lazy tier (probably shos and dgb specifically, keychain less so)
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Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:19 pm

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being honest with myself list:

{nsg}
{Mulch}
{Ginngie}
{MariaR, Lady Lambdadelta}
{Madoka and Homura, BBmolla}
{Keychain, Aristophanes}
{DrippingGoofball, shos}
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Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:23 pm

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that's all i've got for now i think
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Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:27 pm

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In post 2057, northsidegal wrote:{nsg}
{Mulch}
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Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:37 pm

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if i'm wrong on one of my townreads it's lld i think
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Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:57 pm

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Guys I don't know if they're keeping me here and I don't know if I can do anything tn.

I have the tabs open to Iso the question marks but I can't right now :(

I'm really sorry.
For all of this.
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Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:01 pm

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Not-an-opponent-right-now-Pine: Take your time and figure out your status, Ari. Go V/LA or replace out as needed.
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Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:01 pm

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In post 2061, Aristophanes wrote:Guys I don't know if they're keeping me here and I don't know if I can do anything tn.

I have the tabs open to Iso the question marks but I can't right now :(

I'm really sorry.
For all of this.
I understand :(
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Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:19 pm

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In post 2061, Aristophanes wrote:Guys I don't know if they're keeping me here and I don't know if I can do anything tn.
itt Ari posts from Jail.
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Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:07 pm

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let's lynch Madoka and Homura and go to night.

For Ari.

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Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:17 pm

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Keychain has been prodded.

Please announce V/LA for more than 48 hours inactivity!
And put up flags. You can do this by going to the UCP --> Vacation/Limited Access tab.
Those are very helpful for Alisaes!
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Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:50 am

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Sorry Alisae!

I think lynching one of M&H and shos is best outcome for the day, preference to the former because more of what they've done has been actively scummy versus shos's absenteeism.

DGB's claim makes her look town after Alisae's because a) I have no idea how scum would know in advance that godfather returns inno to paranoid cops in order to make the fakeclaim unless they took a gamble based on mastina's role PM and/or privately asked the mod, and b) I have no idea why that very specific situation of godfather returning inno to paranoid cops would be the case if her claim is fake, since it seems nonstandard. I don't know if those are good reasons, but they're enough for me right now unless someone has compelling play-based reasons for her to be scum.
In post 1993, Madoka and Homura wrote:
In post 1988, Keychain wrote:Interaction with Firebringer regarding his vig shot also doesn't look good after his NK.
Also this is laughable, I trusted him on being the Vig and trusted and trusted that Alisae would give him a vig, he didnt even night the same night and obviously he was going to die since he was spamming it, what are you even getting at here ?
Yeah sorry that's fairly unclear huh.
He was hard scumreading you for like all D1 and from what I recall of my thoughts, your slot looked like it believed the claim (and you're affirming that here) which would make him a high priority kill for you.
I was just thinking about it like "huh you're right, surely scum!you would kill a claimed vig who was planning on shooting you or one of your buddies ASAP", then I remembered the NK was Centipede. I don't think anything Firebringer said or did made him a better NK than them N1, like are you suggesting he would have been?

That's kind of a rhetorical question, you don't have to feel obliged to answer or anything. It just means that "he didnt even die the same night" (which is how I read that) is a very weak argument.


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Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:03 am

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Yeah actually this is really depressing.

V/LA until Sunday


I'll try to do things before then and I hope this is figured out well before then, but we'll see.
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Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:35 am

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In post 2065, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:let's lynch Madoka and Homura and
go to night.


For Ari.

/me nods
Like you're not even thinking of us as scum lmao

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Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:12 am

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In post 2057, northsidegal wrote:being honest with myself list:
Suspicious use of the word "honest"

VOTE: northsidegal
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Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:25 am

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Ooh, finally an excuse to quote that thing from a bit ago
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Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:26 am

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VOTE: goofball

Excellent policy lyn h
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Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:26 am

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garaputo wrote:
In post 37, northsidegal wrote::facepalm:

i honestly forget that there was an ic in this game. sorry, i'm in a lot of games right now and i think i mixed things up. i wasn't trying to troll, i was naked voting to try to bait reactions.
UNVOTE:
I was going to argue that using the word honestly here was an indication of scumminess as some players use it when they know that they are lying, but then I looked back through the finished games north played in.

Spoiler: nsg's "honestly" posts in completed games


Turns out nsg seems to say "honestly" more often when town.
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Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:35 am

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In post 2071, northsidegal wrote:Ooh, finally an excuse to quote that thing from a bit ago
pre-meditated self meta rite
In post 836, Lucky2u said:

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