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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:03 pm

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Post Post #7 (isolation #1) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:07 pm

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Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:25 pm

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It's unfortunate that Elli compared mid day momentum Lynch to a shit Lynch because I think EOD momentum lynches have some of the best odds of hitting scum.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:30 pm

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Based on someone else's analyses of MU EOD flashwagons that has held true in my experience on both this site and that.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #4) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:38 pm

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That stat gets heavily skewed by guilties and near lockscums from previous day making short days better. Exclude those and I have a strong theory that it still points towards more deviant from the mean day lengths.
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Post Post #17 (isolation #5) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:41 pm

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Although the amount of utter shitlynches that happens close to 14 days may outweigh the true tryhard fourteen day games so maybe it just skews to shorter games.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #6) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:45 pm

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All inning shorter game days.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #7) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:52 pm

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So with regards to the longer days the first question to ask is why are the days so long and I think a sufficiently high proportion of deadline or near deadline days occur due to hard lurking and apathy (which seems to Lynch town at a far higher than normal rate) that the concept game where I'd argue for high odds of a scum flip is rather drowned out.

Short days largely self select for town apathy, factors in lots of games where the Lynch is obvious, it's easier for scum to control games over longer periods of time, and generally when town is organized enough to communicate enough to get those early lynches they flip better.
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Post Post #24 (isolation #8) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:59 pm

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On a deeper level I think that early flips favor the team that has the most charismatic individual as that alignment in play: but in most games that is town due to both numbers and gaps in people's play.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #9) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:08 pm

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Playing mafia in a by the book team focused manner is + win equity for about 85% or so players if only that. People shouldnt be deathtunneling or hammering without intent or performing most gambits until they have a great deal of games under their belt to trust their judgement and ability to execute things like that. Most people neither need nor deserve the ability to get any specific scumread lynched.
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