Touhou UCanPick 5 - [Game Over]

[Shattiel]

As for Titus meh I might go on a meta dive on Kiana

[Sky_Paladin]

Elbirn seems to have checked out of the game?

Lexa tell me about your Shattiel vote. TBH their entry made me angry and I wanted to vote there but then I thought about it and figured well, they are driving activity and advancing the game state. They may not be progressing in a way that I like but they are doing 'something' which is better than nothing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hrm. I checked Brian Skies' ISO and I feel like I should have checked that before shooting. Probably would have opted out of shooting Purrcocet if that's the case, his read on Katy was based on Purr in a way that imo would have implied Purr to be town. I'm also thinking Sky is kinda towny from Brian's interactions. Sky I'd like you to give input on Brian's interactions with me.

[Gamma Emerald]

if she's scum she's given us a free scum lynch
we get two lynches today and one conftown d2 if we "enable" her

the universal pm we got about what happens if somebody dies mid day phase or whatever in pregame lends this claim even more legitimacy I believe

okay here's where I see a lot of the problems wrt certain rules: they were announced in mass pms rather than added to the op.

@MOD: if any rules have not been added to the opening post yet would you please add them?

[Gamma Emerald]

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ooh good catch, didn't notice that on human. yeah just calling gammas post bad but not scummy while you're voting for him definitely lines up with the scum waffle, first real lead, good place to do this

VOTE: Human Sequencer

shit like this is just a fuckin joke
like look at my vote

my only read from the last 4 pages is that Elibirn is a cool dude

vote gamma

voting gamma is always a nice time tho

are you for real
are you actually taking this seriously

Hmm, this feels like a really strong indicator of Lexa's alignment being town given I feel it aligns with the points where hs would try to play dumb wrt suspicions directed towards his flipped teammates

[Gamma Emerald]

lynch kiana or lexa i guess

never lynch purr or elbirn
not so sure on gaiden

yeah, lexa is town.

[Gamma Emerald]

so I decided to start doing some flavor dives and HS' power is vaguely reminiscent of her flavor but there's no mention of a visor where I checked. So HS seemed to have overstepped with her claim. I don't know what the meaning of it is though, beyond probably meaning his role isn't exactly what he claimed.
also I keep referring to HS as a she even though I know HS is a he because he keeps picking avatars that seem feminine.

[Sky_Paladin]

I will get on to that re-check of HS for you in the next 2-3 hours

[Gamma Emerald]

HS is not as important as Brian imo

[Shattiel]

Elbirn seems to have checked out of the game?

Lexa tell me about your Shattiel vote. TBH their entry made me angry and I wanted to vote there but then I thought about it and figured well, they are driving activity and advancing the game state. They may not be progressing in a way that I like but they are doing 'something' which is better than nothing.

why would you be mad? Is it because I scumread you?

[Shattiel]

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ooh good catch, didn't notice that on human. yeah just calling gammas post bad but not scummy while you're voting for him definitely lines up with the scum waffle, first real lead, good place to do this

VOTE: Human Sequencer

shit like this is just a fuckin joke
like look at my vote

my only read from the last 4 pages is that Elibirn is a cool dude

vote gamma

voting gamma is always a nice time tho

are you for real
are you actually taking this seriously

Hmm, this feels like a really strong indicator of Lexa's alignment being town given I feel it aligns with the points where hs would try to play dumb wrt suspicions directed towards his flipped teammates

I pointed this out earlier too but I wouldn't mind it that much HS is ateing too much at that time probably because he knows that he's gonna be dead.

[Shattiel]

lynch kiana or lexa i guess

never lynch purr or elbirn
not so sure on gaiden

yeah, lexa is town.

nonono that isn't a real push especially coming from a scum who's one step away from dying. If you really believe that then what differs it from a bus?

[Shattiel]

Titus is town just meta dive on Kiana.
She didn't hardbussed a scummy team in a game where she's scum she even got scumread for protecting him.

[Lexa]

Elbirn seems to have checked out of the game?

Lexa tell me about your Shattiel vote. TBH their entry made me angry and I wanted to vote there but then I thought about it and figured well, they are driving activity and advancing the game state. They may not be progressing in a way that I like but they are doing 'something' which is better than nothing.

I have the virtue of knowing their push on me is bullshit, it looks to me like they came in and tried to break the status quo by buying elbirn's vote in order to create chaos knowing that they were on the chopping block. They've been unreasonably confident and aggressive in what they've presented for someone who self identified as not reading the game.

[Lexa]

Elbirn seems to have checked out of the game?

Lexa tell me about your Shattiel vote. TBH their entry made me angry and I wanted to vote there but then I thought about it and figured well, they are driving activity and advancing the game state. They may not be progressing in a way that I like but they are doing 'something' which is better than nothing.

Like sure they're driving the game but everything I see looks like they're advancing the game state of a scum win condition for a single man scum team that needs to get two mislynches

[Shattiel]

How convenient for you to just drop your previous read and call me scum just because I voted for you.

[Shattiel]

Anyway if there's really one scum left then it's in Elbirn, Lexa, Gamma.
Lexa just looks the most bad if there's two scum left based on Gamma/Elbirn interactions.

actually I had another look and I'll exchange Gamma with Sky

Don't think sky could really be scum in Brian/HS iso

[Lexa]

How convenient for you to just drop your previous read and call me scum just because I voted for you.

Nah dude your vote doesn't matter

Your shitty arguments and blatant buddying of the player on the chopping block are a whole nother matter

[Lexa]

Also psa 24 hours to deadline, going to need people to come on to Shattiel with me else I'll go back to elbirn to avoid the no Lynch

[Lexa]

9-12

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first thing i remember having any thought about on hebi, nothing specifically indicative but gut feels town, just sounds really pure


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ooh good catch, didn't notice that on human. yeah just calling gammas post bad but not scummy while you're voting for him definitely lines up with the scum waffle, first real lead, good place to do this

VOTE: Human Sequencer

I'm easy to talk to, I'll always work with people.

lel


these are some really empty posts i'm going through atm :/ only thing of any note through 259 is katy p much solidifying as town, super strong tone in the last several pages on top of the other points in favour

also reading elbirn is like watching paint dry


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agree that dle's posts have been ones more typically in his town wheelhouse, but they also aren't out of his scum one. null for me atm


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its at this point that i realize someone named gaiden is actually in this game o_o

i thought it was some rando that everyone else had played with a bunch...


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interesting that TG chooses to develop a read on kiana who hasn't really been in the thread at all while ignoring me when he'd had us both in the same category in 185. idk i'm feeling really null on this slot, their pushes and targets seem really off and stretchy and their softing of brian/maybe human looks bad but nothing they're saying actually really bleeds noticeably scummy. might just be town who's off the game atm.


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possible tvs with human/tg?


page 12 got a bit more interesting which i'm grateful for cause 10-11 fucking sucked to get through

Lexa somehow looks good pushing for HS but the reason that made him vote for Human is kek.
HS response sounds triggered though so that's also I'd keep an eye out for lexa

@sky explain to me gamma/elbirn I'll hear you out

You can presume that I've already done this and that my reads are suitably explained through the game/ISO, but for your reference, my reads are:

Most town:
Katy/Dan, Kiana/Titus
Lex, Shattiel (Despite your best efforts)
Gamma
Elbirn

If I had to line them up in order from super best town friends forever through to, uh, not, the order is:
Katy/Dan, Kiana/Titus, Lex, Shattiel, Gamma, Elbirn

If you get to your "I'm all caught up!" post and you still aren't satisfied let me know and I'll go through it again.

like hell I'm gonna caught up I'm not gonna read 1500+ posts I'm just isoing people and skimming it.
I'll just form an opinion of everyone then we'll talk real time.

Wut I already did? I've been giving reads since I came in.
Idk what you want from me.
Sky/Lexa this where I'm at right now.
I'm not gonna read every post in this game lol now talk to me about your reads so mine will improved I'll see where you're coming from and judged it right or wrong after I look through it.

@Gamma

You are saying your hated status carries to the next phase, yes?

I didn't pay attention to this properly.

So if we (hypothetically) mislynch today, and scum kills another towny, the next day phase is 5 players, but you're hated at -2. So if there are two scum any of them can just hammer you and it's GG.

Is that about the situation?

So we are not truly in LYLO now. I wonder why I have been thinking that for this whole time.

heh so either elbirn is scum or two scums is in him

Okay I'm finally getting a grasp of things.
Gamma should be town his 2 votes on him is a scum claim in lylo if not hammered.

I'm locktown now btw feel free to take it.
I'm only scum here elbirn is scum with me

VoteCount 4.5

Sky_Paladin [0] -
Titus [0] -
ActionDan [0] -
Lexa [0] -
Shattiel [1] - Elbirn
Elbirn [4] - Sky_Paladin, Lexa, Gamma Emerald, Titus
Gamma Emerald [

2

] -

Not Voting [2]

- ActionDan, Shattiel

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-04-26 07:00:00)

okay regardless of elbirn's alignment there should be 1 scum in his wagon right now.
And sky/gamma doesn't sound SvS
So
VOTE: Lexus
You're scum bye

Or we could just lynch Gamma instead and play it safe. His penalty is horse crap in lylo

Kekek calling me scum after reading 0 of my posts

Unfortunate that the others don't have the virtue of knowing my alignment or what you're trying to do would be as blatantly obvious to them as it is to me

You're outed lol just give up.

LEXA IS AN OUTED SCUM AND DAMN THAT OMGUS FEELS GREAT

um lol I'm not hated next day

oh lol well good job you just locktowned me

Portraying complete certainty about me, complete certainty there's two scum, complete certainty elbirn is town, repeatedly "town clearing" themselves

I.e. doing everything they can to

misdirect attention away from them long enough to survive two lynches

look how much I'm misdirecting attention to myself I'm even machinegun posting and using CAPSLOCK TO SAY YOU'RE SCUM

Everyone look at the progression of Shattiel's erstwhile reads and tell me you don't feel the desperation oozing off of them

[Lexa]

Casually walk into the game and suddenly we have a Lynch pool of Lexa/sky/elbirn but also gamma because playing it safe is important. And then somehow Titus has become their target too.

So obviously doing everything they can to create suspicion and doubt and so discord among the town

[Lexa]

Sow*

[Shattiel]

Anyway if there's really one scum left then it's in Elbirn, Lexa, Gamma.
Lexa just looks the most bad if there's two scum left based on Gamma/Elbirn interactions.

actually I had another look and I'll exchange Gamma with Sky

Don't think sky could really be scum in Brian/HS iso

I mean *Don't think gamma could really be scum in Brian/HS

[Lexa]

>Shattiel says they'll gets reads on everyone and iso them
>Shattiel says they're not reading the whole game
>Shattiel makes one post about Lexa not even via iso
>LEXA IZ LOCK SCUM GUIZ

[Shattiel]

How convenient for you to just drop your previous read and call me scum just because I voted for you.

Nah dude your vote doesn't matter

Your shitty arguments and blatant buddying of the player on the chopping block are a whole nother matter

lol buddying? I provided reasons why I think Elbirn is town and when I ask you guys why you think he's scum no one told me shit