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Post Post #1439 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:07 am

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In post 1426, Sky_Paladin wrote:Eddie Cane [2] - Text Generator, Elbirn
Text Generator [1] - hebichan
Brian Skies [2] - Sky_Paladin, Gamma Emerald
DaLetterEl [1] - Purrcocet
Human Sequencer [3] - Dunnstral, Eddie Cane, Katyusha
Gamma Emerald [2] - Human Sequencer, DaLetterEl
Based solely on this VC, I'd look at lynching Elbrin or DaLetterL.

Can you explain why Gaiden is conftown?
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Post Post #1446 (isolation #1) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:56 am

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In post 1443, Lexa wrote:
In post 1439, Titus wrote:
In post 1426, Sky_Paladin wrote:Eddie Cane [2] - Text Generator, Elbirn
Text Generator [1] - hebichan
Brian Skies [2] - Sky_Paladin, Gamma Emerald
DaLetterEl [1] - Purrcocet
Human Sequencer [3] - Dunnstral, Eddie Cane, Katyusha
Gamma Emerald [2] - Human Sequencer, DaLetterEl
Based solely on this VC, I'd look at lynching Elbrin or DaLetterL.

Can you explain why Gaiden is conftown?
I don't necessarily agree but iirc he has a soft clear from hebi's result who herself is not confirmed town
Ok then Gaiden is definitely a suboptimal lynch, barring Godfathers which feels unlikely.
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #2) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:57 am

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In post 1444, Lexa wrote:Also hi Titus no deception this time :)
Nice to see you again. Your team was pretty good but if Garmr hadn't imploded we win that.
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Post Post #1451 (isolation #3) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:37 am

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In post 1450, Elbirn wrote:
In post 1449, Purrcocet wrote:i'm not shooting hebi, she's probably town.
Why?
Forcing scum to deal with Hebi is probably optimal atm. Maybe revisited if his check flips. If scum shoot hebi that gives two clears.
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Post Post #1454 (isolation #4) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:45 am

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In post 1452, Gamma Emerald wrote:how is that two clears
Hebi claimed to cop someone. If scum shoot hebi, he and his target are clear.
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #5) » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:46 am

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In post 1453, Sky_Paladin wrote:Unless

Hebi is scum

?
If hebi is scum, then he can never attack his clear.
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Post Post #1473 (isolation #6) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:58 pm

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In post 1461, Elbirn wrote:
In post 1451, Titus wrote:
In post 1450, Elbirn wrote:
In post 1449, Purrcocet wrote:i'm not shooting hebi, she's probably town.
Why?
Forcing scum to deal with Hebi is probably optimal atm. Maybe revisited if his check flips. If scum shoot hebi that gives two clears.
Actually thinking on this why would scum ever shoot hebichan in this scenario.
Immediately, probably not but it forces hands of scum.
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Post Post #1483 (isolation #7) » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:14 am

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VOTE: NicoRobin
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Post Post #1492 (isolation #8) » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:49 am

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In post 1487, Sky_Paladin wrote:
Divine Arts "Omnidirectional Demon-Binding Circle" - Katyusha
Dumb question..What is this and how could a player post at night?
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #9) » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:53 am

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In post 1494, FakeGod wrote:
You're allowed to use your spell cards during the night.

I leave the thread open during the night for spell card declarations.
Thought we'd pm them. I should probably read things.
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Post Post #1497 (isolation #10) » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:57 am

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I'll be limited until Wednesday. Taxes.
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #11) » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:47 pm

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VOTE: NicoRobin

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Post Post #1529 (isolation #12) » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:31 pm

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In post 1527, Sky_Paladin wrote:So for me Kiana/Titus are locktown, and so is Katy, because of their actions in the early game bagging 2x scum.
Explain how this happened please.
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Post Post #1533 (isolation #13) » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:48 am

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I generally start from where I sub in and have people explain their positions because a) It makes town assess their validity b) it can highlight groupthink and c) stops me from engaging in groupthink.

Why Elbrin?
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #14) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:56 pm

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This game has pick up with posting. Lovely.
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Post Post #1588 (isolation #15) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:31 am

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I am ok with Elbrin Gamma or Robin lynches. Elbrin looks like he is trying to get people to turn against each other.
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Post Post #1628 (isolation #16) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:33 pm

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VOTE: Elbrin
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #17) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:34 pm

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In post 1625, Lexa wrote:
In post 1623, Sky_Paladin wrote:
so we lynch elbirn first and if the game doesnt end then we lynch dle if elbirn is town and titus if elbirn is scum
I am probably down with step 1 although I don't follow how town!Elbirn = scum!Titus. But that's okay, I'm banking on scum!Elbirn.
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i decided that elbirn and DLE are never scum together, and the others are all town cleared fmpov. titus is the only possible remaining partner if there are two scum left. worst case scenario i'm wrong, elbirn is still scum, we mislynch titus and then we get dle in lylo

town!elbirn into scum!DLE should end game too though
This creeps me out a bit. Maybe it midnight hour though.
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Post Post #1630 (isolation #18) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:35 pm

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Like the chains man
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Post Post #1642 (isolation #19) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:46 am

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Ok, Lexa can you walk me through your analysis on your chain lynches?
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Post Post #1645 (isolation #20) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:27 am

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In post 1644, Lexa wrote:
In post 1642, Titus wrote:Ok, Lexa can you walk me through your analysis on your chain lynches?
It's in the series of posts/quotes made once I got to elbirn's iso

In summary, elbirn made a post where he stated that you had subbed in for DLE and some other stuff. This directly implies that DLE and elbirn aren't partners because elbirn would know who his partner was. Now, prefacing that I think there's only one scum left, if elbirn does flip scum you are the only option remaining by virtue of my belief in the town clears on the rest of the players. I think you're very unlikely to be scum however, because Kiana would have had to hard bus Brian and HS from day 1, so if elbirn flips town then we kill off the idler scum and be done with it
Why Nico slot instead of Gamma though? I'm ok with all three. I just want to "vet" (poor word choice but tired) your thinking to try and get to the same place. Why only one scum remaining?
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Post Post #1709 (isolation #21) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:10 am

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If it's Gamma and Elbrin, Gamma shooting just made this lylo and we must have Shattiel's vote on Elbrin.
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Post Post #1720 (isolation #22) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:37 am

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In post 1717, Elbirn wrote:
In post 1709, Titus wrote:If it's Gamma and Elbrin, Gamma shooting just made this lylo and we must have Shattiel's vote on Elbrin.
I don't see where the gamma/Elbirn pairing comes from that you all keep parroting

But you're better than this Titus and I can't tell if you just don't give a fuck this game or what
This is why I feel you're just shading. I didn't parrot any conclusion at all but merely stated the obvious. You are hyper defensive and scared. Given the two dead votes, all five town must agree if there are two scum in the game. This fact says nothing about the underlying conclusion being accurate or not.

You consistently badmouth the effort I put in to understand the premises people put forth as parrotting or lack of effort. That does not feel town to me.
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Post Post #1773 (isolation #23) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:01 am

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Can we not do last second wagon swaps?
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #24) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:30 am

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In post 1818, Lexa wrote:Also psa 24 hours to deadline, going to need people to come on to Shattiel with me else I'll go back to elbirn to avoid the no Lynch
I'd jump to Shattiel to avoid an NL as well. I just find it telling Elbrin checks out when his wagon walls down and you and Shat start fighting.
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Post Post #1838 (isolation #25) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:32 am

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In post 1834, Shattiel wrote:
In post 1829, Sky_Paladin wrote: While I appreciate you are generating content you're not really engaging players - you're just throwing out wild accusations. I can do without this.
"throwing wild accusation" does someone actually believe this shit?(except for Lexe)

Who agress with him that I'm just throwing baseless accusations?
haven't read but the skim tone sounds good and lexa good at scum.
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Post Post #1840 (isolation #26) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:38 am

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In post 1839, Lexa wrote:Oh Titus is there any benefit left to not claiming your role?
Why should I claim?
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Post Post #1842 (isolation #27) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:11 am

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In post 1841, Lexa wrote:
In post 1840, Titus wrote:
In post 1839, Lexa wrote:Oh Titus is there any benefit left to not claiming your role?
Why should I claim?
You tell me lol, I don't know how claiming would impact your role
Why randomly ask then? Why me in particular? Claiming should not be done unless it brings about a net positive or the game being broken by mass claim. Sometimes not even then if scum can be trapped.
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Post Post #1845 (isolation #28) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:30 am

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In post 1843, Lexa wrote:
In post 1842, Titus wrote:
In post 1841, Lexa wrote:
In post 1840, Titus wrote:
In post 1839, Lexa wrote:Oh Titus is there any benefit left to not claiming your role?
Why should I claim?
You tell me lol, I don't know how claiming would impact your role
Why randomly ask then? Why me in particular? Claiming should not be done unless it brings about a net positive or the game being broken by mass claim. Sometimes not even then if scum can be trapped.
You in particular because we've already mass claimed and you're the only slot that didn't claim anything (also me, I claimed only partial)
I presume you have a good reason for withholding correct?
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #29) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:52 am

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In post 1846, Lexa wrote:
In post 1845, Titus wrote:
In post 1843, Lexa wrote:
In post 1842, Titus wrote:
In post 1841, Lexa wrote:
In post 1840, Titus wrote:
In post 1839, Lexa wrote:Oh Titus is there any benefit left to not claiming your role?
Why should I claim?
You tell me lol, I don't know how claiming would impact your role
Why randomly ask then? Why me in particular? Claiming should not be done unless it brings about a net positive or the game being broken by mass claim. Sometimes not even then if scum can be trapped.
You in particular because we've already mass claimed and you're the only slot that didn't claim anything (also me, I claimed only partial)
I presume you have a good reason for withholding correct?
Yeah I've said why a few times, the other half is limited in nature and neutered if scum know the details
Yet you seem to think with a half-done claim that I am supposed to trust you?
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Post Post #1849 (isolation #30) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:38 am

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And why should I feel you're town enough to excuse your blantant rolefish when you fooled me as scum before? You've been cagey and are still in my PoE pool.
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Post Post #1851 (isolation #31) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:12 pm

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What about your ISO should convince me? You derailed a near solid lynch on Elbrin and ignore the fact that he has just lurked. Gamma has sudden sharp inconsistencies and you wanted to turn the lynch onto Shattiel and drown him out. Maybe cagey is the wrong word but your attitude doesn't leave me with warm feelings.
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Post Post #1852 (isolation #32) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:15 pm

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My sole question is it proud town or scum wanting to keep the pool open?
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Post Post #1854 (isolation #33) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:26 pm

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In post 1853, Sky_Paladin wrote:Given that only one card can be used per phase, there is some value in knowing whether Lexa or Titus should use their card in the upcoming night phase.

If we fail to lynch Shattiel they also have a vig that they will certainly use, preventing either of you from using your cards.
Mine is a day card. I have decided based on Lexa's responses that I will likely need to use it to force a lynch. Lexa will just spam out good lynches if I do not. It's a dick move but we cannot no lynch.
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Post Post #1856 (isolation #34) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:48 pm

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In post 1855, Sky_Paladin wrote:Unless your card explicitly gets around this restriction; a card has already been used in this stage so yours is currently blocked.
What?
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Post Post #1859 (isolation #35) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:54 pm

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Wouldn't Gamma's use preclude any more spells from ever being cast? Since this is extra stage then?

More importantly, who will we lynch? I really think Shattiel towned it up when talking with you.
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Post Post #1861 (isolation #36) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:00 pm

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In post 1860, Gamma Emerald wrote:No? It means day 1 can only have 1 card used, like that
Mod: Is stage Extra meaning Day 4 onward is one stage or is it like an etc.?
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Post Post #1913 (isolation #37) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:56 pm

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In post 1911, Elbirn wrote:
In post 1910, Gamma Emerald wrote:dw I'll sheep AD's reads if he dies
You are a light in the darkness gamma
Circlejerks are real. The people attacking me all happen to be my scumpool. Not a coincidence. Pretty sure I am right here.
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Post Post #1918 (isolation #38) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:00 pm

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In post 1916, Shattiel wrote:Seriously can we get a cfd right now?
I don't think it's really Elbirn it doesn't make sense for scum to push a mislynch on someone who hard pushed two scum and call it a "buss".
That's like the hardest mislynch for scum to push and stupid
Scum always push me when their backs are against the wall. There is no good mislynch. There's only scum in Lexa Gamma Elbrin. The rest they have to force. That's why this happened the way it did. Everyone is really just obvious town. Just stop you and Sky from TvT or Lexa from sowing chaos and we win.
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #39) » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:04 am

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Activate my spell card. Luna Clock. Steal from Sky Paladin. Reset VC to VC 4.8
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Post Post #1952 (isolation #40) » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:04 am

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VOTE: Shattiel
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #41) » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:04 am

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Now we win, the last evil is gone.
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #42) » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:27 am

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Go ahead and release.


GG.
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Post Post #1962 (isolation #43) » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:31 am

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The ending was a bit hard. If Shattiel was lynched over Elbrin I would have had to shoot Lexa probably and survived one more day with Gamma/Elbrin and I didn't like those odds. I think I might have gotten Sky but AD would have been a hard one.
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Post Post #1963 (isolation #44) » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:32 am

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In post 1961, Sky_Paladin wrote:Sorry team. I was really awful this game. All of my reads where sheeped from better players and once they were gone I was just a noisy person who didn't know wtf they were doing.
I buddied you hard and we all have games like that. Don't kick yourself too hard.
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Post Post #1967 (isolation #45) » Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:52 am

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To be fair, I did miss the no two cards thing. I actually did think I could. I had a few misunderstandings that I hadn't cleared up until the end. I think all slots could have improved, including me
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Post Post #1975 (isolation #46) » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:01 am

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In post 1969, Lexa wrote:Too bad I died in the last night phase, I was going to use my spell card immediately if I lived to this day and quick lynch titus
If Shattiel didn't kill you, I would have done the job myself. :-p I didn't want you using your card, whatever it was, since you didn't have me as lock town.
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Post Post #1988 (isolation #47) » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:50 pm

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In post 1987, Elbirn wrote:Because everyone told her to
I wasn't about to stop Shattiel when I buddied her so hard.
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