Secret Hitler (Game Over)

[Harambey180]

i swear to god I am a better player than this game would suggest

Then why don't you post like that better player?

Let me make this clear: I will not pick RC as my Chancellor as long as I'm president.
And I guess I should enter straight away a Neutral Policy: RadiantCowbells should never be chosen as the Chancellor. Mmkay?

I first want to get everyone to post here before I'll make a decision. Right now, only half of the players have posted yet (me, Vij, RC, nsg, BJ).

[Harambey180]

Let me make this clear: I will not pick RC as my Chancellor as long as I'm president.
And I guess I should enter straight away a Neutral Policy: RadiantCowbells should never be chosen as the Chancellor. Mmkay?

If this is your attitude towards me why the fuck did you join this game when I was already in it?

I should have made clear that this is not because of our last mafia game together. It simply is because of your ridiculous posts so far in this game, I do not think it is wise for me to pick you as the Chancellor in this round, so I just made that clear. Also because others don't want you as the Chancellor either (example: Vij in post 29)

Also, I'm apologizing for those comments I made post-game in the last mafia game. I can see those things weren't smart to say either.

[Harambey180]

I should have made clear that this is not because of our last mafia game together. It simply is because of your ridiculous posts so far in this game, I do not think it is wise for me to pick you as the Chancellor in this round, so I just made that clear. Also because others don't want you as the Chancellor either (example: Vij in post 29)

Also, I'm apologizing for those comments I made post-game in the last mafia game. I can see those things weren't smart to say either.

Don't pretend that it's not personal because it's personal. If you're going to come in with a personal fight then own it.

Sorry if it sounds like I want to have a personal fight with you, that is the last thing I would want. Please believe me when I say that I don't, I've had enough of them in the past and I know I don't want them.

I realize now that what happened in that last game was a mistake and I apologize for what happened there.

I hope you can understand the way I think about this, but that's difficult and I know that. I hope you can let this go and forgive me for what I did because I'm really sorry for what happened there and I just want to have fun playing in this game because I didn't have much fun in most of the other games I had here.

[Harambey180]

The fact that everything I said before I called you scum was facetious is reasonably obvious and I think if you stop for a second and think about my posting it's obvious that I wasn't angry at all.

I don't think it's unreasonable for me to want to quit when Harambey harassed the shit out of me in the postgame of our last game to the point that other players and the mod had to step in and he replaced into this game and continued to harass me. I joined because Amrock was here, I asked my friends to join, then Harambey comes back in and starts being an ass towards me again. I don't care about the rest of the game.

I don't want to replace out because I asked my friends to join but the alternative is for me to just force of will everyone into treating Harambey like a nonentity and that will make him rage and make this game toxic for everyone.

If Harambey had joined normally I would have had him WOTMed obviously but I didn't get that choice because of the way the game worked out.

One of us should leave this game and since I probably can't get Ausuka to WOTM him, this is the next best choice.

First things first, I saw Ausuka just replaced you out of this game. If that is because of me then I honestly apologize for it. I would have liked to play a fun game with you for once but it just wasn't to be this time...

- I could tell from those posts that you weren't angry and I posted likewise. As I said before, the sole reason that I didn't want you as my Chancellor this round is because I simply didn't like the way you posted. Vij also said that, btw.

- That I harassed you post-game in the previous game, I admit that. That I replaced in this game to annoy you further, is not true. I replaced in into this game because I saw Ausuka saying somewhere (I think in Site Chat) that Ausuka needed a replacement for Mulch, so I joined this game.
I did not have the intention to harass you with any of the posts I made so far in this game and if it sounded like I did have that intention, I am sorry for that but honestly, I can't really do much about that either. It's just the way I am as a person so I think the two of us just don't get together very well.

The final thing I will say about this is, that I found it very hard to make these posts. I'm proud of myself that I managed to keep myself in control and don't rage at you or anyone else. I'll tell you what I think you may know, I also PM'ed Ausuka in which I said that I wanted Ausuka to keep an eye on what you would say post-game if you indeed replaced out of this game, because I want to avoid such scenario's to happen again.

It's hard to describe but I have tough feelings here. When you reacted to my posts saying things like what you said here about me, I felt pretty uncomfortable and anxious. I was afraid of how you would react to what I would say - which is also why I sent Ausuka a PM. I really was afraid to make posts in this thread about what you said because I was afraid of how you would respond to that.

I am open to talk about this with you after this game but only if you want that too.

[Harambey180]

I don't think your posts or RC's replaceput is AI but for the record I didn't get the feeling it was personal when you said you didn't want him as chancellor.

But to be fair I didn't read the other game and if you guys got into a personal fight there I think it is easy to see how RC might interpret your post as a continuation of that.


I just realized harambey is president this round that doesn't change.

Pick me as chancellor.
VOTE: Buj

Would be okay with nsg chancellor too.

But if I can't be president vij going chancellor doesn't tell me anything about him so don't pick him.

Yeah let's just continue playing now and we probably can get back to it (it = what just happened) post-game.

As I said before and I will repeat it, I am first going to wait for everyone to make a post here and then I am going to pick someone. With RC's replacement, I've only seen a third of the other players besides me that have posted here. Picking a chancellor now: 1- is dumb, because I have only seen three players and I can't tell much from just three players. 2- is risky, because if I pick a chancellor now, I don't know what the other six will do that haven't posted yet.
2 in other words: If I were to pick you, or NSG or Vij or possibly even someone else, then the other six will be voting on the chancellor and the four of us that have already posted can't tell anything from the votes, let alone what they're even gonna vote. Probably they'll vote the 'Nein'; they assumably also want to wait longer.

[Harambey180]

BuJaber, could you perhaps elaborate on why you don't want Vijarada as the chancellor, or more precisely why picking him would get us less further than picking someone else? (that's how I read post 67)

[Harambey180]

You mean, RC and Vijarada as scum put on this show so that at least either of the two wouldn't look like a fascist?
Well for Vij that failed then. RC's slot can be both liberal and fascist (or Hitler, don't forget there's also a Hitler here) so I get it that Vij isn't the best option as of now.

But then again we still need to hear about the remainder of non-posters.

[Harambey180]

So is there really any reason to Ja a president when he's the first one of this round?

I first need to pick a chancellor before we can vote 'Ja' or 'Nein'.
Whoever I pick as the chancellor is probably going to influence the decision of voting either of the two.

Though I can see, generallizing, voting 'Ja' on the first president and their chancellor is a bit risky when we have so little info.
On the other hand, we have to start somewhere. And eventually we do need to vote 'Ja' on some government, otherwise there will be a random policy (if I read that right).

I'm a liberal so there's only going to be max. 1 Fascist Policies if you vote 'Ja' on me (depending on the alignment of my chancellor I guess)

[Harambey180]

Saske jsyk I won't read those two posts cuz they hurt my eyes too much.
Feel free to repeat them and without caps everywhere and misspelling and weird smilies and incoherent sentences, then I'll look at it and comment on it.

[Harambey180]

Your explanation also perfectly shows that reverse-psychology is not really about influencing someone's decision, but more of causing chaos and confusing everyone. That makes things that are reverse-psychology look more like they're coming from fascists because they're more inclined to cause distraction. Without distraction, liberals would have a much easier job figuring out how to play this game imo.

You can figure this out for yourself now.

[Harambey180]

Hmm wait didn't one of us mention earlier that the first President and Chancellor is not voted on??
At least, that's what they said. I don't know if it's true.

[Harambey180]

The president ALWAYS nominates the chancellor (•́⌄•́๑)૭✧

Ugh no you

beep

Voting 'Ja' or 'Nein' is something completely different from picking a chancellor.

[Harambey180]

Hello everyone.

Liking Harambey, saske, and Nsg, so far. BuJ gives me pause, but I think it's just paranoia because of what Nsg said in 56.

89 is fluff, 92 is a scum flail. Good catch by saske and Harambey there. A prod dodge 8 hours after your "I'm here" post? That won't fly. Nico is in the fascist pile.

RC was weird, and he pinged as town and scum with all his weird posts. I have no clear read there, but hopefully inspi will be less of a mess. Confirming inspi's ~25% calculation, btw.

mallow isn't saying much of interest, like last time. His voting pattern should tell us his alignment very quickly, like last time.

N_M is lurking too, what with his empty post.

Not sure how to read Vij at the moment.

I would vote "ja" for everyone except Nico, at the moment, to get info on them.

Would we agree on Vij?
Most of us seem to struggle with reading Vij so if the main goal for the first government is to 'get info on them', I will pick Vij. But then you'll have to vote Ja.

[Harambey180]

Alright I guess I'll just like

pick mallow as my Chancellor

and see what you guys do with that.