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[Tywin Lannister]

Still haven't seen Wisdom, or any other proponent of option 1 explain why they want it. I've given my thoughts as to why its a terrible choice and scummy to choose it. Wisdom hasn't given a reason, nor have I seen others give one either, aside that they think its best to use D1. Explain WHY it's best D1, because I consider D1 the worst day for it.

Get results in investigations and things first, then we lynch those who didn't get cleared or havent been checked to minimize damage. Seems common sense to me, but ill listen to anyone that wants to explain the opposite view.

[Wisdom]

I explained why but youre not reading

[GuyInFreezer]

So I'm officially SRing anyone that picks option 1. Two mislynches in a row. Yay? What townie would pick this?

To put this in perspective, I want you all to think about every D1 in every game you've ever played. What percentage does town hit actually good scum on D1 lynches? Is it very low, or so extremely low that pigs fly and he'll freezes over before it happens? I'm also not saying BAD scum players, but good ones. How many bad players are in this game? How many good scum players are in this game? How many times do you see them getting lynched D1 as scum? Now multiply that by two. You get no info from D1 mislynches, and they're usually always mislynches. Option 1 is a scum dream scenario, giving them two bad, no-info lynches with zero effort, then a smaller cast of townies to NK after. Yeah, town who pick this are VI and i assume it's scum that will try to sneak it through.

Option 2 is good in every situation. I don't see any faults with it. Those who do are overlooking a lot, which is that half the game in large role-madness is figuring out what exactly the setup is. That always needs to be solved before town can win. Always.

Option 3 is whatever. Since we don't know what options scum have, it doesn't seem important yet. Today is the wrong day to use it anyway.

I'm going with

Option 2

Before you talk about VIness, you do realize that we have even players start right?
Also VOTE: Guyinfreezer

[GuyInFreezer]

So I'm officially SRing anyone that picks option 1. Two mislynches in a row. Yay? What townie would pick this?

To put this in perspective, I want you all to think about every D1 in every game you've ever played. What percentage does town hit actually good scum on D1 lynches? Is it very low, or so extremely low that pigs fly and he'll freezes over before it happens? I'm also not saying BAD scum players, but good ones. How many bad players are in this game? How many good scum players are in this game? How many times do you see them getting lynched D1 as scum? Now multiply that by two. You get no info from D1 mislynches, and they're usually always mislynches. Option 1 is a scum dream scenario, giving them two bad, no-info lynches with zero effort, then a smaller cast of townies to NK after. Yeah, town who pick this are VI and i assume it's scum that will try to sneak it through.

Option 2 is good in every situation. I don't see any faults with it. Those who do are overlooking a lot, which is that half the game in large role-madness is figuring out what exactly the setup is. That always needs to be solved before town can win. Always.

Option 3 is whatever. Since we don't know what options scum have, it doesn't seem important yet. Today is the wrong day to use it anyway.

I'm going with

Option 2

Also VOTE: Guyinfreezer

Before you talk about VIness, you do realize that we have even players start right?

[GuyInFreezer]

Unless there is a work of vig or something silly, by double-lynching, we get one free lynch before LyLo.
Considering that lynching is one of the most reliable way to kill scum....

[GuyInFreezer]

I read "Double lynch can net 2 mislynches"
I see "I am a coward who has no confident about my reads"

[Wisdom]

I read "Double lynch can net 2 mislynches"
I see "I am a coward who has no confident about my reads"

Amen

[Misaka Network]

Son, I voted Choice 1 because I like lynching scum.

Regarding disappearing people, I think Taly picked Beeboy and dragged him into a PT.

I was questioning on whether

Beeboy

or

Creature

becomes the object of my early hard-defense.

But I think my choice is close to being made.

I don't know why you would save a miller claim from a lynch though.

[Misaka Network]

God, I need more Katarina LeBlanc in my life.

[Misaka Network]

In case anyone missed it:

If anyone have day one daycop, please claim.

I picked motivator for my role, so I can give you double action immediately.

Thank you.

[Nosferatu]

Have no idea what to choose

Good luck

is jake long the american dragon an anime? if so i could have chosen tmnt and yin yang yo

Yeah, town who pick this are VI and i assume it's scum that will try to sneak it through.

you're VI

Dunning-Kruger Syndrome for you friend.

thats not a thing lol

So I'm officially SRing anyone that picks option 1. Two mislynches in a row. Yay? What townie would pick this?

To put this in perspective, I want you all to think about every D1 in every game you've ever played. What percentage does town hit actually good scum on D1 lynches? Is it very low, or so extremely low that pigs fly and he'll freezes over before it happens? I'm also not saying BAD scum players, but good ones. How many bad players are in this game? How many good scum players are in this game? How many times do you see them getting lynched D1 as scum? Now multiply that by two. You get no info from D1 mislynches, and they're usually always mislynches. Option 1 is a scum dream scenario, giving them two bad, no-info lynches with zero effort, then a smaller cast of townies to NK after. Yeah, town who pick this are VI and i assume it's scum that will try to sneak it through

shit man, i didnt realise that mislynching is possible. in fact, we should just no lynch d1 and lynch once we've got some information to be sure

please don't make headass comments and then call people VI for what's like objectively the best option.

VOTE: option 1

what happens when the setup info is something stupid like "x exists in the game"

no matter what it is, we can probably get it when we lynch 2 people on D1.

[GuyInFreezer]

Get results in investigations and things first, then we lynch those who didn't get cleared or havent been checked to minimize damage.

As if Mafia won't have anything to fudge up that oh-so-perfect-plan amirite

Seems common sense to me

I find your definition of "common sense" questionable.

[Tywin Lannister]

I read "Double lynch can net 2 mislynches"
I see "I am a coward who has no confident about my reads"

My reads have nothing to do with it. It's not 'no confidence about my reads.' It's more about 'no confidence in other's reads.' People mislynch D1 almost every game on this site, as is tradition. I'm bad at leading a push or stopping a bad one on town, but not at forming my own, many times correct reads. I also dont automatically assume I'll be correct on every read, unlike some of you here. It's not my ego I'm worried about.

I think it's common sense to wait to use a double lynch when the odds are better due to more information rather than less, but hey, do what you want, since I don't feel like being insulted in any more circle jerks.

I also never said a No Lynch is better, because it's not. That's not the choice. It's either double lynch, or single lynch + whatever else. Knowing the setup is a better first step imo than blindly lynching twice. Roles are there for a reason, and I do not trust the majority of players in findint scum correctly without role help or setup info. I just don't. Sorry, not sorry.

[Tywin Lannister]

Get results in investigations and things first, then we lynch those who didn't get cleared or havent been checked to minimize damage.

As if Mafia won't have anything to fudge up that oh-so-perfect-plan amirite

Seems common sense to me

I find your definition of "common sense" questionable.

When did I say I was a perfect plan? How am I supposed to know what she has planned? I'm going off of common knowledge, which isn't much. If you want more setup knowledge, you'd pick option 2, but you don't want that.

Why are you such a hostile person toward me btw? Is it because I don't agree with your hard push to double lynch and that I called it scummy, or that I RVS voted you? Which one? Do you not want to know the setup? Do you not want to make scum have vanilla roles for a night? Do you just think you're so God-gifted at mafia that you're head and shoulders better than every player here, and thus will catch scum? Maybe your motivations aren't town? I'm curious whats up with your attitude.

[Srceenplay]

never said a No Lynch is better, because it's not. That's not the choice. It's either double lynch, or single lynch + whatever else. Knowing the setup is a better first step imo than blindly lynching twice. Roles are there for a reason, and I do not trust the majority of players in findint scum correctly without role help or setup info.

I second this.

[KidAmn]

Still haven't seen Wisdom, or any other proponent of option 1 explain why they want it.

This is fairly close to being an outright lie. I may not be 100% behind 1 but the case had definitely been stated for it.

Ironic that Taly and Beeboy disappear off into a closet before half the players have even engaged with the game.

[MariaR]

Event

Option 1

(5)

GuyinFreezer, Misaka Network, Wisdom, WhemeStar, Nosferatu

Option 2

(1)

Tywin Lannister

Option 3

(1)

Keychain

Not Voting

(9)

NicoRobin, randomidget, Purrcocet, acryon, Creature, Srceenplay, KidAmn, Kokichi Oma, Katsuki

Resolves when a lynch is achieved, or when the deadline is reached

VC 1.1

acyron

(1)

Misaka Network

GuyInFreezer

(1)

Tywin Lannister

Not Voting

(14)

GuyInFreezer, NicoRobin, Wisdom, randomidget, Purrcocet, acryon, Creature, Srceenplay, Nosferatu, Keychain, WhemeStar, KidAmn, Kokichi Oma, Katsuki

With 16 players, it takes 9 to lynch

Deadline ends in (expired on 2018-05-16 13:00:00)

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm sorry but, how is option 3 ever going to be a bad thing. Down the road, scum is going to have fewer abilities. We should be thinking bout the long game. A double lynch right now isn't going to help us too much unless we lynch scum twice which is unlikely. Option 2 is something for long game too, but it could be information that isn't very helpful.

VOTE: Option 3

VOTE: Taly

I don't like that opening post for some reason. It just feels fake to me.

[KidAmn]

I don't think anyone's argued that its bad, just that it has the lowest ceiling in terms of how useful it could be.

What about Taly felt fake to you?

[Kokichi Oma]

How is it the lowest? Am I assuming this right that scum EACH have to lose 2 of their powers?

[Kokichi Oma]

In the name of the town, I'll vote you!

This post seemed like it was trying too hard to prove they are town.

Taly could have just said the regular "In the name of the moon, I will punish you!" and everyone would have gotten the same affect from it. Just seemed like a preplanned scum post.

[KidAmn]

How is it the lowest? Am I assuming this right that scum EACH have to lose 2 of their powers?

That's something we could probably use having clarity on, but I think I addressed this earlier with regards to scum likely just dropping whatever powers they feel are lowest utility/outright power. It scales dramatically with how powerful scum roles might be (and does depend on if your interpretation is correct, so I'll concede that)

In the name of the town, I'll vote you!

This post seemed like it was trying too hard to prove they are town.

Taly could have just said the regular "In the name of the moon, I will punish you!" and everyone would have gotten the same affect from it. Just seemed like a preplanned scum post.

I think this might be reaching a little. Like, I grok where you're coming from, but fuck knows I've made some incredibly overthought entrances as town in my time. Not sure it's indicative of anything

[Kokichi Oma]

Even if it's just 2 random ones, I think it's still worth it. I think scum will have some strong powers.


And yes, it might be reaching but it's just my first instinct, and it's only page 4. SO better to go off something than nothing.

[Kokichi Oma]

Even if it's just 2 random ones, I think it's still worth it. I think scum will have some strong powers.


And yes, it might be reaching but it's just my first instinct, and it's only page 4. SO better to go off something than nothing.

[NicoRobin]

VOTE: Option 3