Open 724 - Pick Your Power X/Y [Endgame]

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

I've skimmed through the thread, there's more to comment on, such as Beef, but this was the first thing that popped up in me...

okay SO for the RECORD in this PRESENT point in this PRESENT gamestate I do NOT want to present my vote into the Janitor wagon until we are PRESENTED with follow up to this ✧٩(•́⌄•́๑)

I think IF Janitor is JUST an inarticulate townie then whatever INFO DUMP he writes will be the BREAKING POINT in determining his TRUE motivations (〇o〇✿；)

So UNLESS I see something particulary REVEALING when I catch up I will develop my points against A50 since it seems that they are not as clear as I thought (●’o’●)

Besides a50 I think the composition of the wagon is ADEQUATE and TOWN MOTIVATED but A50's presence DOES make me a little worried ฅ=͟͟͞͞((꒪∆꒪;)ฅ

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Also I am cognizant that I have not been on the site for an extended period of time but I ALSO have a guess as to Janitor's IDENTITY and I think this play is NORMAL for him as both alignments (•̀o•́)ง

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

7) 138 I'm not fond of this post, you quoted the worst several times and then didn't really elaborate on your thoughts or engage with questions, I don't see your thought process.

I'm not sure how far you caught up but what did you think about the way he pressured Janitor? (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Janitor/Saske are a possible scum team IMO

okay SO can you EXPAND upon this read? PLUS I think if you SCUMREAD me it would be good to explain why since I'm so far universally townread ೕ(･ㅂ･ )

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

okay SO I have 30 minutes to write my case before class...

Can I do it? (/ω＼)

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

okay SO

A clever counter wagon, she says!!!

Beefster is TOWN (҂⌣̀_⌣́)

Do you DISAGREE with my townread?

I don't even know you, so I can't tell if you have good or bad reads in general and whether you are familiar with Beef in particular.

THIS first response pinged me a little - it DOESN'T answer the question I asked and instead seeks to BRUSH OFF my read! ( ⚆ _ ⚆ )

Sure, I may not KNOW Beefster that well but that does NOT prevent me from being able to develop an opinion based off of SOME form of reasoning! So A50 not answering the question and pulling the conversation into a non-sequitur required DIGGING DEEPER on my part ೕ(•̀ᴗ•́)

How would KNOWING me help you ASSESS the quality of my read in terms of LOGICAL BASIS? (‘◉⌓◉’)

if you think my REASONS are BAD or COMING FROM AN IMPLAUSIBLE POSITION that is something you MUST let me know ೕ(･ㅂ･ )

SIMYK has good reads along with a powerful, respectful, and unwavering voice

（○´艸｀）

@Saske: You don't know Beef as well as I, Dino or TW do, so I do think your read is flawed at best.

But instead of explaining HOW is answer was relevant, A50 just chooses to REPEAT himself! （◎0◎）ᵒᵐᵍᵎᵎᵎ

okay SO

if BEEFSTER’S flight or fight reactions were TRIGGERED because of Mathdino’s post, wouldn’t he ALSO instinctually HIDE his claim instead of BROADCAST to everyone that he is the scum jailkeeper?

Sure I am not INTIMATELY FAMILIAR with Beefster’s QUIRKS but I assume a BASELINE where people are not SO bad at scum they risk their tean’s chances their FIRST POST just because they though town WANTED them to claim ( ⚆ _ ⚆ )

Is my baseline INACCURATE for Beefster?

also that dosent answer my question -____- - not knowing Beefster does NOT make the reasoning itself invalid （￣へ￣）

Ask Beefster himself, and I think he will tell you that he is bad at scum (he's learning the ways still though, so there's potential for him on the future).

But let's

assume (for the sake of argument)

that Beefster is town here. So? Why is a wagon on him bad? Wagons are good for getting reads, right?

You see, I don't mind your vote on me. What I do have a problem with is you throwing all your weight behind "Town!Beef" without even knowing the player that well. That feels a bit odd for my little brain to grasp.

Wagons ARE good and that's why I'm starting one on someone I DON'T think is town ( ¬_ლ) - I prefer to lynch SCUM and sort people whom I DON'T townread onviously.... Plus if he relay is this bad I highly doubt his REACTION to a large wagon would be that alignment indicative - if ANYTHING it is MORE likely to just shut him down ( ꒪Д꒪)

And I don't know ANYONE in this playerlist that well - I'm NEW to the SITE! What I see HOWEVER is a thinly-veiled POLICY LYNCH that I want to get to the bottom of - so if I townread him OF COURSE I'm going to throw my weight around it. We NEED discussion about CONTROVERSIAL reads so I will do whatever I can to STATE MY BELIEFS. After all, I don't like to CENSOR my OPINIONS (•̀o•́)ง

Yet AGAIN another non-sequitur with an OBIVOUS answer - why would I want to WAGON my own townread and why even BRING the conversation there? ∑(;°Д°)

Is my baseline INACCURATE for Beefster?

I would like to see FOLLOW UP to this A50-hannin (ノ-益-)ノ

So OF COURSE A50 NOT engaging me is going to frustrate me and make me want some sort of RESOLUTION where we are communicating with each other, but this whole time A50 PULLS THE CONVERSATION around in a way that makes us TALK AT each other rather than WITH each other (≧д≦ヾ)

Plus HE'S the one whom said that the conversation WOULD MOVE into a direction where we simply fought about whom was right and whom was wrong - but look at WHAT I am asking A50. Does that REALLY seem like where I am trying to move the conversation?

I DO NOT think this is how town talks to a townread, it's SURFACE LEVEL engagement that seems more focused on DETERRING me rather than COMMUNICATING with me, so YEAHヾ(｡･ω･)ｼ

If Janitor REDEEMS himself when he posts we should STRONGLY consider an ALMOST50 wagon

okay SO I have 30 minutes to write my case before class...

Can I do it? (/ω＼)

YATTA! I did it! (•́⌄•́๑)૭✧

[Lalendra]

Pick Your Power X/Y Except The Mod Chooses Who The Mafia Are

(Not An Art Project)

Pick your power x/y except the x and y choose who chooses who the mod is who in turn chooses who the mafia are

Did these 2 games actually happen? If so, I'd appreciate being linked to them.

tell me you're not serious

[Lalendra]

okay SO for the RECORD in this PRESENT point in this PRESENT gamestate I do NOT want to present my vote into the Janitor wagon until we are PRESENTED with follow up to this ✧٩(•́⌄•́๑)

It bothers me more than it should that you capitalized PRESENT in all instances except one

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

I felt it did not deserve the same emphasis (￣ω￣)

[Almost50]

if anyone claims vengeful, policy lynch them (this is optimal play)

why

Because if town' scum are either going to shoot them to avoid being venged by them or keep them to MyLo and then push them to get an extra kill. If scum though, leaving them alive for later is also dangerous, so we get rid of them as early as possible. (Note that role is not indicative of alignment here, so we don't know if they're vengeful town ot scum anyway, so it's safer to have removed as early as possible).

And since I know I'm almost always unclear, let me try again: Assume they're scum. Do you want then lynched on D1 or D3? They're going to venge kill a townie anyway, so the sooner they do it the better and the less likely they know who the stronger PRs are.

Now assume they're Town. Would you rather have them act like a Town Vig upon their lynch or have them shot at night? And would you rather they venge killed someone when the damage is minimal or have them do it when -if wrong- could hand the game to scum?

[Almost50]

Damn, 9 pages already. I better start reading.

Also

VOTE: A50

Fuck you.

Did you choose that on purpose because you saw that I chose it last PYP X/Y game I was in?

Btw, I asked a friend if I should pick 6 or 7. I thought 7, but she said 6. Annoying.

Another fun fact:

I originally chose 7

but then switched my number to 8 shortly before the deadline because I considered the number 7 too risky.

Do you want to die?

[Almost50]

Of mutant is scum here, consider me overly impressed. I have never seen him look townier!

[Mathdino]

seriously

what has mutant done that's particularly townish

[Almost50]

When was the last time he actually posted anything other than bad reads and confusion?? Here he is actually providing some information and cars to argue back with facts.

[Almost50]

*cares.

I can't type one post without making some typo

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

When was the last time he actually posted anything other than bad reads and confusion?? Here he is actually providing some information and cars to argue back with facts.

Does he NOT do that as scum? (・_・ヾ

[the worst]

I like Simyk's angles and analysis but goddamn are those posts hard to read

I admire your commitment and effort with the caps lock and ascii but I find myself skimming because it's hard to decipher

I THINK their posting is GREAT!!! d=(´▽｀)=b

[Almost50]

What is "that"?

[Lovebird]

Hey how lovely you posted the first 5 pages overnight

Hmm I'm unsure of SIMYK being town this early? Wouldn't reasoning around the draft be WIFOM territory?

VOTE: The Janitor

Serious question tho

Wonder if scum thinks that math took it as a joke.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Provide information and care to argue back with FACTS

That’s just playing mafia... (´−｀) ﾝｰ

[Lovebird]

VOTE: A50 for being salty I got the nr1 spot with nr1.

Scummy

[the worst]

Pick Your Power X/Y Except The Mod Chooses Who The Mafia Are

(Not An Art Project)

Pick your power x/y except the x and y choose who chooses who the mod is who in turn chooses who the mafia are

Did these 2 games actually happen? If so, I'd appreciate being linked to them.

I will run both next marathon weekend remind me

[Lovebird]

I think everyone so far is town

I hope ur town so I don't have to try and get you lynched again (and fail miserably)

I'm town

[Lovebird]

hi, i'm town
VOTE: Beefster

hi, i'm town
VOTE: Beefster

AUSUKA-CHAN!!!!!!! ヾ(｡･ω･)ｼ

It has been a while since I last espied thou!

HOWEVER with that vote you arent realy convincing me of that (⊙△⊙✿)

hi!

the vote on beefster is because he's openly giving up his role for basically no reason while accusing math of rolefishing. doesn't seem like a real thought to me. "Hey, this person voted me based on draft analysis. They must be scum rolefishing me! Also, I'll claim, because that makes a lot of sense as a thing to do in this scenario."

On an unrelated note, I ?think? I know who janitor is.

the vote on beefster is because he's openly giving up his role for basically no reason while accusing math of rolefishing. doesn't seem like a real thought to me. "Hey, this person voted me based on draft analysis. They must be scum rolefishing me! Also, I'll claim, because that makes a lot of sense as a thing to do in this scenario."

I mean I DO agree that the thought process DOESN'T make sense BUT scum would also be aware of this and probably NOT think like this Σ(-᷅_-᷄๑)

Like it relay... doesn't make sense to claim because a townie is ROLEFIHSING you...

Yeah, it doesn't make sense it makes even less sense to claim, on page 1, because a scumread is rolefishing you.

I think generally if someone does something that doesn't make sense if they're town, they're scum. I do often see scum taking refuge in audacity, doing things that make no sense so people are like "why do that as scum?"

Ausuka is scum

VOTE: Ausuka

[Lovebird]

Going to make up for not pushing read in mafia month enough.